FIFA World Cup (Russia) - Part 3

[Mandon Knight]

it's (Three Lions) a song that is self-deferential, much of what British & English humour is.

 

[Dark Raven]

it's (Three Lions) a song that is self-deferential, much of what British & English humour is.

It was written by 2 comedians anyway: Baddiel and Skinner.

And wasn't the original meaning and context of the chorus about how it was the first time a championship match was played on home soil since 1966? (Euro 96). Hence, football's coming home. But over time the meaning changed to signify something deeper: that we'd take the cup home.

 

[Dark Raven]

'"Three Lions' is getting dubbed over famous film and TV scenes - and it's the best meme of the World Cup"

https://www.mirror.co.uk/interactives/three-lions-getting-dubbed-over-12863006

 

[Mandon Knight]

'It's Coming Home' sounds more assured than the reality of 'We don't stand a chance'.

Plus the sentiments (at the time) helped propel a team forward, (tabloid media took it to far though), I think also you have to include the timing of context within the release, we were at the height of 'Britpop', Trainspotting had just come out and it was considered the greatest era of 'youth culture' since the 60's and confidence within the country was on the up and a massive sway was part of the political dynamic that the Tories were finally on their last legs and the next year with the election they would finally fall.

I was 21 that summer and living in Manchester, at University doing my finals and it was a golden time for many. The song captured a 'moment', the team and country rode it.

 

[Dark Raven]

'It's Coming Home' sounds more assured than the reality of 'We don't stand a chance'.

Plus the sentiments (at the time) helped propel a team forward, (tabloid media took it to far though), I think also you have to include the timing of context within the release, we were at the height of 'Britpop', Trainspotting had just come out and it was considered the greatest era of 'youth culture' since the 60's and confidence within the country was on the up and a massive sway was part of the political dynamic that the Tories were finally on their last legs and the next year with the election they would finally fall.

I was 21 that summer and living in Manchester, at University doing my finals and it was a golden time for many. The song captured a 'moment', the team and country rode it.

I think I had just graduated and went off on holiday for the summer.

Yes, it is a true Britpop song, with lyrics rather tongue in cheek like many other Britpop songs at the time. Britpop was almost like a second British Invasion, except that technically the "second British Invasion" usually refers to the 80s with Synth Pop and New Wave. So I guess Brit Pop could be a 3rd British Invasion, which would actually be more similar to the original British Invasion from the 60s.

Although wasn't 96 when the Spice Girls and girl power started taking over?

Hard to believe that was all 20 years ago already. Seems like just yesterday.

 

[Micromind]

Italia'90 Song. (Though I don't understand a word they are singing.)


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[Mandon Knight]

I think I had just graduated and went off on holiday for the summer.

I graduated and had a mental breakdown. Each to their own.

 

[Dark Raven]

 

[Mandon Knight]

'Fiege's still believing, MCU forever gleaming, 20 films of hits, never stopped me dreaming'.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think if people believe the "Football's coming home" line to be arrogant depends on whether you're singing Three Lions 96 or Three Lions 98. The lyrics and attitude of both versions are quite different from each other. The 96 version is the classic, which is essentially a more humble "keep hope alive" song, while the 98 re-recording is more of a "we're going to win this" song.

This is a good analysis of the two versions:

https://obscuremusicandfootball.wor...en-the-1996-and-1998-versions-of-three-lions/

And apparently some England fans are also singing the wrong lyrics in the chorus. Instead of "Jules Rimet still gleaming" they are singing "Jewels remain still gleaming"

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...and-fans-lyrics-wrong-world-cup-a8432656.html

 

[russian gal]

So, I was hoping Argentina, ‘cause I love Messi. I was all about Senegal. Now I’m Team Croatia, and I feel obligated to root for Russia.

we have (had!) almost the same favs

Tho Im not obliged to root for us (only for Dzyuba) but for some reason Im like 99% sure we'll win & I'll be mourning the team that actually can play this game aka Croatia, much more deserving one


Speaking of songs, this Argentina one that fans sang all over the city some days ago is so catch Im not able to throw it out of my headt:
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[LvtLeeTDK]

Wonder if Deschamps's gonna risk starting Sidibe as RB. Pavard hasn't been very good this WC (which is obvious for a CB playing wide) and too defensive. Uruguay is playing solid defensive tactics so I expect Sidibe to make the difference on the right flank.

 

[Tg11]

I see France beating Uruguay today to move on to the Semi final

 

[DeadPresident]

It's definitely going to be a massive struggle for Uruguay without Cavani.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

 

[LvtLeeTDK]

433 from France maybe ?

 

[Tg11]

Apparently it is 4-5-1 for France

 

[Mandon Knight]

France have got this. 2-1

 

[Iceman]

The France team looks too strong for Uruguay. Hope they play to their potential.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

433 from France maybe ?

Maybe 4-2-3-1. Giroud up-front and just ahead of Mbappe on the right, Griezmann in the middle & Tolisso on the left with a double pivot of Kante & Pogba.

 

[Tg11]

Brazil are losing to Belgium today...the Belgians got this

 

[Mandon Knight]

Brazil are losing to Belgium today...the Belgians got this

Hope so, would love for Belgium to win.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

It wouldn't be a 'WORLD' CUP anymore if Brazil & Uruguay lose their respective games tonight.

 

[Iceman]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...lands-World-Cup-16-win-Colombia-replayed.html
280,000 people sign petition demanding England's World Cup win over Colombia be replayed as enraged fan who set it up calls on FIFA to 'set a precedent for fair play'

 

[Mandon Knight]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...lands-World-Cup-16-win-Colombia-replayed.html
280,000 people sign petition demanding England's World Cup win over Colombia be replayed as enraged fan who set it up calls on FIFA to 'set a precedent for fair play'

#goodluckwiththat