Frustration with WB.

[Octoberist]

well, fine

 

[Lauryn2000]

Honestly,it sickens me that I grew up with more DC superheros (I'm a fan of both DC & Marvel) but only Superman and Batman can get to the big screen.Someone please explain that to me,or why the past seven years.Marvel has had at least 9 comic book heroes hit the big screen.Sequels,newbies,lesser knowns and getting ready for a "re-do" (tongue and cheek) with The Incredible Hulk,crappy Daredevil (Affleck) and Electra(his wife/Alias/Felicity) of all Marvel characters can hit the screen.And all DC/Warner Bros can do is Batman and Superman over and over again.Love the Dark Knight..I have no problem with that since they made a mockery with Batman 2,Batgirl and casting Ah-nold as Ice Man.I know Wonder Woman is going to take an act of congress to get made.But what about the rest of DC....I don't get it?Maybe someone can explain it to me.....

 

[Random490]

Honestly,it sickens me that I grew up with more DC superheros (I'm a fan of both DC & Marvel) but only Superman and Batman can get to the big screen.Someone please explain that to me,or why the past seven years.Marvel has had at least 9 comic book heroes hit the big screen.Sequels,newbies,lesser knowns and getting ready for a "re-do" (tongue and cheek) with The Incredible Hulk,crappy Daredevil (Affleck) and Electra(his wife/Alias/Felicity) of all Marvel characters can hit the screen.And all DC/Warner Bros can do is Batman and Superman over and over again.Love the Dark Knight..I have no problem with that since they made a mockery with Batman 2,Batgirl and casting Ah-nold as Ice Man.I know Wonder Woman is going to take an act of congress to get made.But what about the rest of DC....I don't get it?Maybe someone can explain it to me.....

Because Marvel sold their movies rights to several studios, Sony Pictures, Fox, etc. plus not they have their own studio and DC is owned (i think) by Warner Bros. So they are only being made by one studio, who can not devote all their resources to just making super hero movies and sequels. It sucks but it's true

 

[Evil Twin]

1) Because WB is just one studio that's focus is on more than superheroes. I'm sure WB and New Line executives aren't losing any sleep because they chose Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings over lesser known superheroes.

2) Because Batman and Superman are two of the most popular superheroes in the world and it makes zero fiscal sense to move forward with lesser known superheroes first.

 

[RonStoppablefan]

I go with 2, Batman and Superman are the two well most known super heroe/popular so fourth. I mean its like X-Men, why is Wolverine the one Fox always centers its attention on? Becuase he's there cash cow.

 

[Lauryn2000]

Thank you....I scratch my head because I know it could be done.Smallville (tv) proves that although I think it's time,to put the cape and tights on for the upcoming season.And make it the last before they run it into the ground-

It was funny at one time when Sandra Bullock was willing to put up her own money,to fund the Wonder Woman movie.But she wanted to play the part...you have the Justice League..Super Friends...heck...pretty much everyone grew up with the Super Friends...than branch out with the characters....heck make a movie with The Wonder Twins...and Bleep.

But do something...please ...not Shazam....I use to watch him on CBS because he came on before The Mighty Isis.Other than that I never would have spent my Saturday mornings watching him........worse comes to worse do a "Birds Of Prey" movie---sic...... vs vs

 

[The Major]

I go with 2, Batman and Superman are the two well most known super heroe/popular so fourth.

WW is one of the most recognized super-hero in the world, too. She still hadn't got a solo quality cartoon series or a big budget flick yet.

But some how a Catwoman who was created just for a movie with no connection to the actual franchise in any medium got a movie before she has.

Being popular first doesn't mean it can't be a hit, either.

V for Vendetta and Blade weren't household names until the movies were released. Yet their movies did very, very well.

Batman and Superman wouldn't still be the only successful super-heroes if WB actually did a good job making the rest of their lesser franchises accessible to the public. How is the public supposed to know or care about Green Arrow or Flash when they barely know who they are in the first place? That won't happen unless WB does something good and high profile with them.

I mean its like X-Men, why is Wolverine the one Fox always centers its attention on? Becuase he's there cash cow.

Wolverine wasn't as popular as he is now until the films came out. Before that Spider-man, and possibly the Hulk, were the only A-list Marvel franchises before the X-men films.

Iron Man is now one of their new cash cows. Before the film most people didn't care about it, either.

 

[Lauryn2000]

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Iron Man is now one of their new cash cows. Before the film most people didn't care about it, either.

So true...which gives hope to "Submariner"---now if he gets made into a movie...than there is no reason why "Aquaman" can't.

 

[The Major]

So true...which gives hope to "Submariner"---now if he gets made into a movie...than there is no reason why "Aquaman" can't.

Supposedly the current Aquaman film is a comedy.

These film makers should stop using Super Friends as their reference material and watch Arthur's appearances on JLU. That's an Aquaman who'd kick ass on screen.

 

[Lauryn2000]

Supposedly the current Aquaman film is a comedy.

These film makers should stop using Super Friends as their reference material and watch Arthur's appearances on JLU. That's an Aquaman who'd kick ass on screen.

I suppose Super Friends sticks closer in people's mind,because back in the days it was on free tv ABC.Where Justice League is on cartoon network/cable.And comes on Saturday night,where Super Friends was a Saturday morning cartoon.Super Friends was marketed from Underoos (my brother use to wear them) to lunch boxes.

It's just everyone knows the Super Friends.....and the Legion Of Doom...Zan and Jayna....retro..sometimes retro sells....get this...

When I started watching the Justice League I was at a lost for the Martian character....but I enjoyed that series until they started messing with it

Now..The Smurfs are about to hit the big screen.....Papa Smurf?
Who would have guessed?

The Simpson's can get on the big screen before any other DC characters???

Unacceptable.........

 

[Billy Batson]

I suppose Super Friends sticks closer in people's mind,because back in the days it was on free tv ABC.Where Justice League is on cartoon network/cable.And comes on Saturday night,where Super Friends was a Saturday morning cartoon.Super Friends was marketed from Underoos (my brother use to wear them) to lunch boxes.

and most of those Super Friend's fans watched Justice League, Justice League was for Super Friends audience whom are all grown up. That's why Teen Titans and Legion of Superheroes where created and geared towards a younger audience to fill in the gap, those same Super Friend's fans are the folks whom are making comic book based cinema very profitable today.

 

[Evil Twin]

Batman and Superman wouldn't still be the only successful super-heroes if WB actually did a good job making the rest of their lesser franchises accessible to the public. How is the public supposed to know or care about Green Arrow or Flash when they barely know who they are in the first place? That won't happen unless WB does something good and high profile with them.

While we can debate the actual quality, Flash did have a high profile network tv series. Got killed in the ratings in a brutal time slot and then was moved around randomly, but it's certainly more of an accomplishment than anyone non-DC has had with primetime superheroes since the Bill Bixby Hulk series.

 

[The Major]

While we can debate the actual quality, Flash did have a high profile network tv series. Got killed in the ratings in a brutal time slot and then was moved around randomly, but it's certainly more of an accomplishment than anyone non-DC has had with primetime superheroes since the Bill Bixby Hulk series.

True.

To bad WB never followed up with that or WW's tv show with any actual solo shows, live action or cartoon, to keep the audience's interest after they were canceled.

 

[MadVillainy]

I mean Marvel has their **** locked down tight

I mean

1. Does superman need a reboot? (IMO just different writer and director)
2. Would it be wise to have a JL movie with different actors then stand alone movie?
3. Is it wise to kind of put all movie production on standstill until nolan signs onto TDK sequel

Honestly of couse idk how a film studio is run. But it just seems to me that they are doing a bad job

 

[Evil Twin]

I mean Marvel has their **** locked down tight

I mean

1. Does superman need a reboot? (IMO just different writer and director)
2. Would it be wise to have a JL movie with different actors then stand alone movie?
3. Is it wise to kind of put all movie production on standstill until nolan signs onto TDK sequel

Honestly of couse idk how a film studio is run. But it just seems to me that they are doing a bad job

Who says movie production is at a standstill for Nolan and Batman? WATCHMEN is in post-production and JONAH HEX, GREEN LANTERN, and Y, THE LAST MAN look poised to go ahead with filming next year. WB might not be announcing release dates for 2011, which I think is silly anyways for movies without scripts, directors, casts, etc., but WB/DC has just as much going on as Marvel. They might be farther along even since they have scripts and directors lined up for all three new movies and key cast members reportedly in place for two of those three.

WB/DC doesn't have to make a decision on Superman, Supermax, Flash, Shazam, WW, JL, etc. before next Spring with the slate they already have in place. And it's doubtful they will. Realistically, the most you might hear this fall is official announcements on JONAH HEX, GREEN LANTERN, and Y, THE LAST MAN and possibly the signing of Nolan to a contract.

 

[EagleVision]

It's been brought up by others myself included about how DC has all these great comics to make movies from and yet they're doing nothing.

It's really getting on my nerves that Marvel has done all these movies for their characters and DC's done nothing but Batman Begins and a crap Superman movie.

You'd think after seeing the Harry Potter movies doing so well, they'd see if you make a movie faithful to the source material and make it well it would be wise to do the same with all the DC stuff they have the rights to!

Instead they do nothing.

At least they've started doing the direct to DVD movies which have been great and way better than what Marvel's done.

Superman/Doomsday was very good but, I think instead of a clone of Superman they should've made the evil Superman the Cyborg Supes, they could've pulled that off easily and it would have been closer to the comic book. But still very good.

And New Frontier was excellent!

But when it comes to live action big screen films they need to make a big budget faithful revamp of Superman, get away from Donner and Singer especially and do something like the modern comics,
And Green Lantern can be a big hit if done right, with Hal Jordon, and it could be as big as Starwars.

The Flash could be a fun movie. And Justice League should be done better than what they're planning now.

Sure they've done Vertigo stuff, but it is time to go to the main DC heroes and make big hit movies. It is time.

Revamp Superman, make Green Lantern, and ofcourse continue with the great new Batman movies, but it would be nice if they gave him a better suit.

WB get off your asses and make these movies! With the technology and all these days it wouldn't be hard.

They made The Lord of the Rings for goodness sake! Making Green Lantern wouldn't be hard!!!

I see all the Marvel heroes being brought to life and it ticks me off I'm still waiting for my fave DC heroes to be brought to life or done the right way.

Take a lesson from Marvel in this, they screwed up The Hulk big time so they have fixed it, redone it, so the same can be done with Superman.

Get started DC/WB, make these movies!

Amen to everything you said. We think alike. My main thing right now is that WB's answer to bringing DC characters to the cinematic stage is not through making every hero dark like Batman which is what Warner Bros/DC wants to do. Nor is it placing every character in realism. Stick to the comic-book script for each character and stay true. Good results will always follow. If you build on faithfulness to the character, the money and fans will come. Not a hard concept.

Marvel is stealing the show. And as much as I love Marvel. I'm a DC fan first and proud of it. From the time I was totting as a toddler it started with the Bat and morphed into a love for nearly everything else DC had to offer. DC has great characters with great origins and storylines, not to mention the franchise that is Superman. The Bat is forever first in my book but we all know Supes is the franchise. And WB/DC can't step up and get it done right??? All the while your competition at Marvel and the one man comic-book phenomenon that is Stan Lee are eating all the cake that DC could be making? Oh yeah, it's frustrating to say the least.

WB/DC........STEP UP ALREADY!!!!!!

Anyone got some Tylenol?

 

[The Guard]

Marvel is stealing the show.

Really? I'm pretty sure I'm willing to put THE DARK KNIGHT and WATCHMEN up against ANYTHING Marvel comes up with in the next five years.

 

[Evil Twin]

Really? I'm pretty sure I'm willing to put THE DARK KNIGHT and WATCHMEN up against ANYTHING Marvel comes up with in the next five years.

Heck, Iron Man is the only thing Marvel's done since 2004 that stands out from the pack quality-wise. At least in a positive direction.

Having ambitious plans isn't the same as having successful plans.

 

[TheVileOne]

So what about Watchmen. It's not a true DC Universe comic story anyway.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah I don't think it's fair putting movies like V for V or Watchmen in the same breath as Marvel films. It's not the same target audience. Until DC gives us some superhero films... and Batman by some isn't even considered a superhero to some people... I am not giving WB any credit... time and time again they have got it wrong with Batman/Superman... and people have faith in these other characters now? Marvel clearly has the edge at the moment.

 

[Evil Twin]

Yeah I don't think it's fair putting movies like V for V or Watchmen in the same breath as Marvel films. It's not the same target audience. Until DC gives us some superhero films... and Batman by some isn't even considered a superhero to some people... I am not giving WB any credit... time and time again they have got it wrong with Batman/Superman... and people have faith in these other characters now? Marvel clearly has the edge at the moment.

Why isn't it fair to include superhero titles published by DC Comics? Heck, DC Comics probably does better from those adaptations as those trades saw a healthy boost in sales. You start excluding those, Vertigo, Road to Perdition and History of Violence, and I think there's an anti-DC/WB agenda. Why should a publisher/studio discriminate among its own properties? Just because Marvel doesn't have a lot of properties outside its superhero base that're attractive for movies isn't a reason to penalize DC.

Also, anyone saying Batman isn't a superhero is living in a state of denial. He's one of the Big 2 archetypes.

I think it's silly to try to arbitrarily exclude things just to make a point. The argument seems to be, WB/DC can't do anything right and to back it up we'll just arbitrarily exclude things like Batman, Watchmen, Vertigo properties, etc. That's bad logic.

Yes, it would be good if DC/WB did more and better with their properties. It also would be nice if Marvel did better with things like Spider-Man 3, X-Men 3, Daredevil, Punisher, Elektra, Hulk, their animation, etc.

 

[REDophile]

WB said they are gonna release two movies about DC characters other than Superman and Batman by 2011. Other than GL, they only have two other realistic options, and they're not the Flash or WW. Jonah Hex and Y:The Last Man are NOT the traditional spandex, Justice League superheroes of the DC universe. So if that is what they are going for WB has it all wrong, especially if GL falls through. Most reports, however, seem to note that GL is looking good to come to fruition soon. But if it doesn't, Marvel clearly has the edge. GL needs to be their answer to Iron Man, Thor, Cap and the Avengers.

 

[Evil Twin]

WB said they are gonna release two movies about DC characters other than Superman and Batman by 2011. Other than GL, they only have two other realistic options, and they're not the Flash or WW. Jonah Hex and Y:The Last Man are NOT the traditional spandex, Justice League superheroes of the DC universe. So if that is what they are going for WB has it all wrong, especially if GL falls through. Most reports, however, seem to note that GL is looking good to come to fruition soon. But if it doesn't, Marvel clearly has the edge. GL needs to be their answer to Iron Man, Thor, Cap and the Avengers.

Green Arrow/Supermax still seems on the development slate, albeit in need of rewrites and a director to take charge of the project. But, as I said, if WB is looking for something for Spring 2011, they really don't have to have anything ready to go for another year. Internet impatience isn't a reason for WB to start making announcements. Seriously, is anyone not going to go to a movie in 2011 simply because the studio didn't make an announcement in 2009?

 

[TheVileOne]

History of Violence and Road To Perdition aren't super hero movies.

Watchmen is a super hero story but it's Alan Moore. And it's not connected remotely to anything in the DC Universe or even the freaking Vertigo-verse. Absolutely it's own standalone work.

Also WB was the studio that produced Catwoman, Forever, and Batman and Robin. If there is an anti-WB agenda. It's well deserved.

 

[The Batman]

So what about Watchmen. It's not a true DC Universe comic story anyway.

Sigh...

this is why i cant take anyone seriously when they complain about lack of dc movies...They'll make a sweeping statment about how WB makes no DC comics movie...and when people who actually know what they're talking about point out that they just dont make the ones said fanboy wants to see, this is the result

FACT: WB makes quite a few movies on Dc comic characters. Vertigo is DC, PERIOD. Alan moore wrote Watchmen for DC COMICS, and it was published by DC COMICS, so when WB makes Watchmen...that makes it a...you guessed it....DC COMICS MOVIE. And this would be the same case if marvel made a movie about a new universe character, it would still be a MARVEL COMICS MOVIE