Future of DC Films

[SPIDERMAN117]

Well, the reviews say The Green Lantern ended up not being as great as we hoped it be, what does this mean for Future DC Films, besides Batman?

 

[ClarkLuther55]

They already basically took a "nothing but Batman and Superman" approach with their animated Direct-to-DVD movie series, with Green Lantern: Emerald Knights only being made as a tie-in to the GL theatrical movie.

If GL flops bad (its ridiculous $300 million budget is worse for it than any review), I think we might be screwed. Justice League is definitely out the door if the ONE character they were banking on to carry it (besides Bats and Supes) is seen as a failure. Forget Flash, he's pretty much in the same boat as GL if not worse off due to the lack of space opera mythology. Wonder Woman doesn't stand a chance if the studio's intended new golden boy can't even make a successful movie.

 

[Ness]

They already basically took a "nothing but Batman and Superman" approach with their animated Direct-to-DVD movie series, with Green Lantern: Emerald Knights only being made as a tie-in to the GL theatrical movie.

If GL flops bad (its ridiculous $300 million budget is worse for it than any review), I think we might be screwed. Justice League is definitely out the door if the ONE character they were banking on to carry it (besides Bats and Supes) is seen as a failure. Forget Flash, he's pretty much in the same boat as GL if not worse off due to the lack of space opera mythology. Wonder Woman doesn't stand a chance if the studio's intended new golden boy can't even make a successful movie.

Hunh? Didn't you see the Wonder Woman movie that came out? The animated one? And then there was the previous Green Lantern that wasn't a tie-in. Also the animated shorts for Spectre, Green Arrow, and Jonah Hex were done extremely well. So there are two right off the bat that didn't have to do with Superman and Batman and did really well. Granted the majority of them are either Batman/Superman and/or have Batman and Superman in them, but they aren't just making those kind of movies. Those just happen to be the most popular characters.

And Flash is completely doable. More so than Wonder Woman and Green Lantern. He's just based in one city and deals with things that people can relate to more so than what Wonder Woman and Green Lantern deal with, which are cosmic lands and divine righted power. Barry Allen is a normal man that gets his powers due to an accident. Another flawed hero movie that has worked so well for Marvel. If they took an approach similar to the early 90's television series, a more darker take on the character, it could work. The more things people can relate to in a story, the better. That's why Nolan's Batman works so well. Or rather, Batman in general as a story because of the personal tragedy Bruce endures. A lot of people can relate to that. Not so much galaxy police force.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Hunh? Didn't you see the Wonder Woman movie that came out? The animated one? And then there was the previous Green Lantern that wasn't a tie-in. Also the animated shorts for Spectre, Green Arrow, and Jonah Hex were done extremely well. So there are two right off the bat that didn't have to do with Superman and Batman and did really well. Granted the majority of them are either Batman/Superman and/or have Batman and Superman in them, but they aren't just making those kind of movies. Those just happen to be the most popular characters.

And Flash is completely doable. More so than Wonder Woman and Green Lantern. He's just based in one city and deals with things that people can relate to more so than what Wonder Woman and Green Lantern deal with, which are cosmic lands and divine righted power. Barry Allen is a normal man that gets his powers due to an accident. Another flawed hero movie that has worked so well for Marvel. If they took an approach similar to the early 90's television series, a more darker take on the character, it could work. The more things people can relate to in a story, the better. That's why Nolan's Batman works so well. Or rather, Batman in general as a story because of the personal tragedy Bruce endures. A lot of people can relate to that. Not so much galaxy police force.

Agreed, though I don't really care about Flash. I'd be more excited about Green Arrow.

 

[chiefchirpa]

And Flash is completely doable. More so than Wonder Woman and Green Lantern. He's just based in one city and deals with things that people can relate to more so than what Wonder Woman and Green Lantern deal with, which are cosmic lands and divine righted power. Barry Allen is a normal man that gets his powers due to an accident. Another flawed hero movie that has worked so well for Marvel. If they took an approach similar to the early 90's television series, a more darker take on the character, it could work. The more things people can relate to in a story, the better.

What's Barry flaw? What makes him interesting? I could see Wally West but WB squandered Ryan R for Hal Jordan where he'd be perfect as himself being Wally. But Barry....

 

[chiefchirpa]

Agreed, though I don't really care about Flash. I'd be more excited about Green Arrow.

Green Arrow got affected by Green Lantern too you know. "Green"...

IMO, DC has to look for pseudo-realistic heroes like Mr. Terrific and create an original stories out of him. Or dial in Captain Marvel himself for cinematic clashes for the ages with Teth-Adam.

 

[Ness]

What's Barry flaw? What makes him interesting? I could see Wally West but WB squandered Ryan R for Hal Jordan where he'd be perfect as himself being Wally. But Barry....

Well he got his powers on accident and I remember at least in the 90's television show he wanted to get rid of them.

He's definitely not on the level of a Spiderman or Thor in terms of having to "find himself" and relate to the viewers that way, but still his story is a lot closer to something we can identify with instead of Wonder Woman or Green Lantern.

 

[Ness]

Green Arrow got affected by Green Lantern too you know. "Green"...

IMO, DC has to look for pseudo-realistic heroes like Mr. Terrific and create an original stories out of him. Or dial in Captain Marvel himself for cinematic clashes for the ages with Teth-Adam.

Warner Bros. could also look to some of their Vertigo properties and make something out of that. People aren't going to even know those stories are inspired by comic books. I didn't see The Losers, but I'm willing to bet the majority of people that saw had no idea that it started as a comic book.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Green Arrow got affected by Green Lantern too you know. "Green"...

IMO, DC has to look for pseudo-realistic heroes like Mr. Terrific and create an original stories out of him. Or dial in Captain Marvel himself for cinematic clashes for the ages with Teth-Adam.

I know that Green Arrow was also affected by Green Lantern, I was just saying that I would love to see him on screen.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Hunh? Didn't you see the Wonder Woman movie that came out? The animated one? And then there was the previous Green Lantern that wasn't a tie-in. Also the animated shorts for Spectre, Green Arrow, and Jonah Hex were done extremely well. So there are two right off the bat that didn't have to do with Superman and Batman and did really well. Granted the majority of them are either Batman/Superman and/or have Batman and Superman in them, but they aren't just making those kind of movies. Those just happen to be the most popular characters.

It was after Wonder Woman and Green Lantern First Flight came out (and didn't do the numbers WB Home Video wanted) that WB HV made the decision to go with mostly Batman/Superman starring movies from then on. Director/storyboard artist Lauren Montgomery confirmed this on her blog (and a Batgirl Year One movie she was pushing for didn’t happen for this very reason).

Those shorts were a way to get around this by the production team, but WB Home Video was banking on the DVD compiling all those shorts together (with the Superman/Captain Marvel short being the main draw) doing well enough to make back the money it took to make them. That didn’t happen either, so it’s unlikely you will see any more of those shorts in the future.

And Flash is completely doable. More so than Wonder Woman and Green Lantern. He's just based in one city and deals with things that people can relate to more so than what Wonder Woman and Green Lantern deal with, which are cosmic lands and divine righted power. Barry Allen is a normal man that gets his powers due to an accident. Another flawed hero movie that has worked so well for Marvel. If they took an approach similar to the early 90's television series, a more darker take on the character, it could work. The more things people can relate to in a story, the better. That's why Nolan's Batman works so well. Or rather, Batman in general as a story because of the personal tragedy Bruce endures. A lot of people can relate to that. Not so much galaxy police force.

I don't see why a Wonder Woman or Green Lantern movie couldn't do at least as well as Thor has done at the box office. Flash might be more relatable than them in a lot of respects, but he isn't a sure thing (and his TV show only lasted one season if I remember correctly).

 

[Jochimus]

If GL tanks, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for anyone else out of the DCU to break out of development hell and actually get to the big screen, regardless of whatever potential they have. I've a nasty feeling we're gonna be stuck in Gotham City and/or Metropolis - mostly Gotham, though, I'm sure, if WB keeps trying to bury the Siegel/Shuster estates instead of just settle with them - for a long time to come.

 

[TheSpyAssassin]

Here's a funny thought, Marvel releases 2 sequels to Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, 2 Punisher films, and 2 Hulk films post Spider-Man 1-2/X-1-2 Success. None of those films fared well with any critics, and didnt do THAT amazing at the box office or didnt make bank at all. Marvel was cranking out the films like no other. I don't see why DC can't do the same. Maybe if they didn't invest SO MUCH into one film maybe we could see a profit. I know it's almost saying "hey give up quality for quantity" but that's not the case. If DC can see the mistakes Marvel did, but approach it with a different sensibility, i.e. get a stronger and more credible production team for a budget AT LEAST half (at the most) of what GL was, they could be making decent superhero flicks that doesn't rely heavily on the popularity of Batman/Superman. And the best part is that WB owns all the DC, so there is no need to compromise a story/comic whereas Marvel characters were spread to different companies and lost most of all of the original comic ideas. So the thing here is WB needs to be smart about how the projects are handled and not expect their films to be the next Avatar/Titanic box office bonanza.

At this point, it does seem GL will need to make a good profit, and re-approach the character in a less expensive sequel and redeem what has been done. And really double check themselves in future DC films.......but you never know. They were banking on GL and then announced a JLA film....not sure if that is going to happen at all anymore.

 

[Dwarf Slayer]

I say DC should do some lower budget movies ($50 million) on characters like Green Arrow, The Question, Zatanna, and Deadman. Release 2 a year.

If those are successful, move onto to Captain Atom, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, and Hawkman with bigger budgets. Release 2 a year.

If those are successful, move onto The Flash and Wonder Woman with blockbuster budgets.

These movies should be linked together into a universe. Within 5 years, DC will have crafted a large universe that can afford a couple of flops.

 

[Airwings]

Dwarf Slayer: Aquaman and Hawkman belong in the blockbuster budgets group. How else are they gonna make them worth seeing? The amount of special effects needed are huge.

 

[MadVillainy]

Well it all boils down to how much money GL makes. Even with bad reviews if it makes bank I think the DC movie universe could still move forward

But if the critics reviews are any indication on BO (which does sometimes happen contrary to interweb's beliefs) then yeah DC should make some changes if they want to move forward with a successful universe

 

[KangConquers]

DC Entertainment is 0-2 if this GL movie turns out to be a flop. The first strike against them being the Wonder Woman pilot.

 

[The Morningstar]

If Green Lantern's box office matches it's reviews... say goodbye to anything that isn't Batman or Superman for a while.

 

[MadVillainy]

Yes Morningstar thanks for reminding us... jerk

 

[Airwings]

It can't be the end already now.... we have only just begun

I wanna see The Flash, I wanna see Wonder Woman, I wanna see Aquaman, I wanna see Green Arrow and I wanna see Hawkman. And after that I guess everything else will just be a bonus.
Atleast I will be satisfied with having films about the characters mentioned above.

But not all our dreams will come true, just some of them. Should we just be thankful for Green Lantern and not crave for more? That's the question.

 

[KangConquers]

If Green Lantern's box office matches it's reviews... say goodbye to anything that isn't Batman or Superman for a while.

Honestly, DCE is kind of screwed for me if I don't enjoy Green Lantern, since he's the only DC character other than Superman and Batman that I've ever really gotten into.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yes Morningstar thanks for reminding us... jerk

...thanks?

I'm not replying to anyone or reminding anyone. Just stating what I think will happen.

If you don't see a Flash or Wonder Woman movie any time soon... blame Geoff Johns, that's what i'll do.

 

[Karem-Knight]

...thanks?

I'm not replying to anyone or reminding anyone. Just stating what I think will happen.

If you don't see a Flash or Wonder Woman movie any time soon... blame Geoff Johns, that's what i'll do.

Can we add this to another reason to hate Hal Jordan and Barry Allen?

 

[chiefchirpa]

Will Smith as Mr Terrific is the answer.

 

[MadVillainy]

seriously?

 

[chamber-music]

Flash might be more relatable than them in a lot of respects, but he isn't a sure thing (and his TV show only lasted one season if I remember correctly).

The Flash TV Show was 20 years ago. Alots changed in that time.