Rise of the Silver Surfer GALACTUS Discussion

[Ahura Mazda]

I have not seen the movie yet as it does not come out in France or Switzerland until AUgust but I have to ask how can the Silver Surfer harm Galactus and therefore, I would suggest that this galactus cloud is not him but a representation of him. Of course, this has most probably been alreaqdy said so I apologise if I am being repetitive. Anyways, it sucks having to wait until August.

 

[Memphis Slim]

From This..

To This....

I can kinda' see what the poster is sayin'. Sure Stan Lee may not mind what they did to this character. But Lee didn't create him....Kirby did. Lord knows how long he toiled to come up with such a visually stunning being like the Big G. It was a comics masterpiece. There had never been a character more stunning than Galactus up to that point.

He's like the comic book version of Mona Lisa. DaVinci would be pissed if someone did this to his creation......

So---I see what HeyZEUS is trying to say. He's not trolling. He's just expressing a point of view that you disagree with. And this is only "bait" if you make it so. Why even get mad? It's just a discussion.


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[Lightning Strykez!]

It's interesting that you were able to come up with such a longwinded (but nevertheless good) explanation out of 2 words. Too bad he couldn't express himself as well as his interpreter.

 

[*ANTHONY*]

I hope in Fantstic Four 2, Galactus is revealed. Perhaps while he is out devouring planets he is inside the cloud using his power, and when he is at his "home" you see him in his real form.

 

[Memphis Slim]

It's interesting that you were able to come up with such a longwinded (but nevertheless good) explanation out of 2 words. Too bad he couldn't express himself as well as his interpreter.

Nice back-handed compliment. Thanks.......

 

[The Guard]

Except that Mona Lisa is a human, and Galactus is an alien planet devourer.

 

[berkots]

Actually, I think The Big G controls a cloud of gas. (Hopefully!t: )

Seriously though, someone in the review thread had a great theory on what the whole devouring cloud/fiery Big G image means:


Makes sense to me.
Except I think the "devouring cloud" takes the energy back to Galactus.

why would he say "he is here then"?

 

[Tony Stark]

I can kinda' see what the poster is sayin'. Sure Stan Lee may not mind what they did to this character. But Lee didn't create him....Kirby did. Lord knows how long he toiled to come up with such a visually stunning being like the Big G. It was a comics masterpiece. There had never been a character more stunning than Galactus up to that point.

That's not right. Lee and Kirby jointly came up with Galactus, it was Kirby who came up with the Surfer on his own.

 

[Untilteld]

why would he say "he is here then"?

Oooh true that.

 

[Spider-Fan]

why would he say "he is here then"?

Because he was there...just inside the cloud. Being in the cloud doesn't make him not here.

 

[Malus]

why would he say "he is here then"?

Ah, that's right.
He had to be deep inside the cloud, then.

So, the fiery apparition shaped like Galactus that the Surfer encountered probably was Galactus.

Cool. Just wish that fiery apparition had been onscreen just a second or two longer.

 

[*ANTHONY*]

Galactus HAD to be somewhere inside the cloud. A cloud doesn't have a shadow the shape of a helmet.

 

[Memphis Slim]

Except that Mona Lisa is a human, and Galactus is an alien planet devourer.

You get my point. Don't be a smart alec. You don't mess with an original.....especially if it's a classic.

And that's Galactus. If you're ashamed of the creation, don't do it.

 

[Memphis Slim]

That's not right. Lee and Kirby jointly came up with Galactus, it was Kirby who came up with the Surfer on his own.

Yeah...they both came up witht the concept. But Lee didn't create the the guy on paper.....Kirby was the artist!! Not Lee.

But I'm sure you knew what I was sayin'. You just had to put 2 cents in here.
And I'm sure he worked hard to come up with that classic visual! I'm glad he's not here to see this happen to his creation!


He did the design the Surfer too.

 

[cryptic name]

it's kind of depressing how much some posters on here are so convinced that the FF2 producers couldn't have f**ked Galactus so bad that they're coming up with these theories. i wish it wasn't this way, but that cloud was Galactuse, if there was meant to be a large humanoid in the cloud, they would have shown or alluded to it.

in the plus column, they pretty much nailed everything about the surfer in the movie.

 

[*ANTHONY*]

Vemom was more satisfying than galactus

 

[Akimych]

 

[Kelly]

I don't get it.....

 

[Akimych]

venomcloud

 

[Malus]

i wish it wasn't this way, but that cloud was Galactuse, if there was meant to be a large humanoid in the cloud, they would have shown or alluded to it.

Here we go again, huh? Okay...

Understand: I did not notice it the first time around.
Only after seeing the screencap was I able to spot it for all of its 2 seconds of screentime.
But there, in the middle of an otherwise dark screen, is the fiery silhouette of Galactus' head and shoulders.
He's made of fire and the rest of the picture is black or grey.
We're not talking about seeing faces in the fire, we're talking about the fire itself having the distinctive shape of Galactus' head and shoulders.

Unmistakable once you've seen it. But onscreen no more than 2 seconds.
And that's the problem.

The debate should be over the apparent failure of this "reveal."

I have no doubt that well over 95% of audience members did not see the fiery image of Galactus, at least not with one viewing. And most people only see a movie once, so...he may as well have not been there.

So in my opinion, it's not a reveal.
(It's more like what you young'uns call an "Easter egg" - there for the uber-fan to spot, but not necessary for the regular folk to enjoy themselves.)

And sadly, to me, it's that moment of FF2 that feels most like a "screw you" to us fans.

Our glimpse of the true Galactus should never have been that fleeting.
For crying out loud, they were only giving us an abstract appearance of Galactus to start with with that fiery silhouette business.
Why did we only get 2 seconds?

We'd already heard the Surfer refer to Galactus as a male entity twice during the course of the film, including the ominous "He is here" just before the climax.
So Why stop short of a proper "fiery Galactus" reveal?

I can see so no reason why the apparition/silhouette/transmission image (or whatever it was) of Galactus couldn't have been drawn out to at least 5 seconds of screentime.

It was either very poor editing or intended to be missed.

Sadly, neither is acceptable to me.

 

[french joker]

this is the creepiest thing i'v ever seen in my whole life


seriously.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

this is the creepiest thing i'v ever seen in my whole life


seriously.

I can't stop laughing at itt:

 

[Vartha]

The ultimate nullifier!

BWHAHAHAHA

 

[Memphis Slim]

Originally Posted by Memphis Slim

French Joker wrote: this is the creepiest thing i'v ever seen in my whole life


seriously.

This is Mona-Lactus

 

[gregtestagent]

Thanks for the feedback. As I understood it, Galactus was a sentient god-like being that could actually talk. That marvel heroes game, or whatever its called, had a good movie of Galactus in it, and that's what I would have liked to see, even if it was ridiculous. I mean its called Marvel for a reason. Its not called "lets make it believable enough for contemporary audiences" no, its Marvel. Another thing, SS cannot defeat Galactus in battle even if he tried with all his might. Its like a bug attacking you or I. I also understood that Galactus not only created the surfboard for SS, but also gave SS the power cosmic;which he could command with and without his board. The board was SS means of transportation, is mentally linked with the surfer, and is virtually indestructible made from the same stuff that covers the surfer. Other than that, it did not give SS command over the power cosmic. What the movie did was tone down the almost invincibility factor for the SS and Galactus, and they must have also ran with the old idea that Galactus was more like a force of nature rather than a villain. That and they couldn't have a drawn out battle with the FF, SS, and Doom (I don't know why Doom was ever in this one, he's kind of like thrown in for good measure). The super skrull nod, with Torch using all the FF powers, was okay but barely noticeable. It all seems like half a movie, a bad half, with almost nothing resembling the Fantastic Four and their stories.