George Takei Wants to Unite Star Wars Fans and Star Trek Fans in War Against Twilight

[John Locke]

what the hell is this "nyeavada kedavra"?! it's Avada Kedavra. And now you're dead...

We know. It's a combination of Voldemort's catchphrase NYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! and Avada Kedavra. And I've got Horcuxes so still alive.

 

[danoyse]

 

[Speedball]

It's funny that the only useful Hufflepuff gets killed off early on.

 

[Erzengel]

Transformers probably

yeah nooo... i'd say harry potter. not really sci fi, but hey, its awesome and it pretty much captured a generation.

It doesn't matter what genre, it just has to be something that captured and enthralled the nation. I'd say the Star Wars of this generation is Harry Potter too, or Lord of the Rings.

And as a huge fan of both Star Wars and Star Trek, I'm all for the two uniting to take down the disgusting reign of these "vampires".

I'd like to Vader and Worf team team up, and lightsaber and bat'leth the crap outta these sparkly bloodsuckers.

It's Harry Potter. No other film comes close including LOTR (This is coming from a die hard LOTR's fan) But people in my generation would think someone is strange if they didn't like Harry Potter. Also Voldemort already nyeavada kedavra Edward and that's what created this mess. So it's up to the Union of the two Stars to fight Twilight.

The Mega Shark VS Giant Octopus movies

Duh

I'd like to see where Harry Potter is in 20 years but in terms of changing pop culture, it's the closest but nowhere near the impact of Star Wars back in the day.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Blade is not that good either

I like Blade

The difference is that Blade doesn't try to be deep, and doesn't try to impart any lessons on self-esteem or "growing up." Unless you count "don't let Traci Lords take you into an underground dance club," which is pretty sound advice in any context.

Aren't those the ones who did that cool theme for Reptile in the first Mortal Kombat movie?

You're all NERDS!

Says the one who wants a comic book fan to play Batman in the reboot

Can't you remove that penalty doc


Thread is full of win

 

[bullets]

 

[chamber-music]

Blade is already running point!

Bella counts as a familiar.

You give Twilighters a message from me. You tell him it's open season on all suckheads

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

You give Twilighters a message from me. You tell him it's open season on all suckheads

and in the real world... Twilight marches on, while Blade grinds to a halt with two flop movies, and a cancelled tv series, haha.
If the world of movies and tv shows were an internet forum, Blade would be perma-banned.

 

[CelticPredator]

Well, Blade's time came and went. As will Twilights.

I think the problem with these flicks, is they're so restrictive. You have to be either a girl, or a really wimpy man to enjoy them.

With something like Captain America, or Thor, both sexes can enjoy the films.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Aren't those the ones who did that cool theme for Reptile in the first Mortal Kombat movie?

'Traci Lords' is not the name of a band, that is the name of an actress who starred in porn movies when she was underage.

She was obviously just a stupid wee lassie, not her fault, I blame the scumbags who encouraged her to try to play adult roles in films she shouldn't have been near. I highly doubt she thought of it herself.

Thankfully, I am not interested in porn movies, so have never encountered her in that way, I have heard her sing on the Manic Street Preachers first album though, on a song called 'little baby nothing'.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Well, Blade's time came and went. As will Twilights.

I think the problem with these flicks, is they're so restrictive. You have to be either a girl, or a really wimpy man to enjoy them.

With something like Captain America, or Thor, both sexes can enjoy the films.

eh, I couldn't really get into the 1st film, I ended up going online during the last third...and I can be a really wimpy man sometimes, ie, in the way I imagine you mean, a guy who can get into a romantic type tale.
As opposed to, y'know, being a big tough guy and drooling over half clad models who have had extensive plastic surgery as they run under giant robot's legs.
in other words, i much prefer the twilight woman to Megan fox, so if i'm gonna sit like a sad b*****d and imagine one of them was my girlfriend, I'd rather watch the woman in Twilight.

 

[CelticPredator]

I mean wimpy as in, you think you're as cool as Edward Cullen. '


Most romantic films aren't that bad. When you compare them to Twilight.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I mean wimpy as in, you think you're as cool as Edward Cullen. '

I've never actually thought of anyone, that I have encountered in real life, or in the movies, as being cooler, or more capable, than myself.
I can how other people would do that though, haha.

Most romantic films aren't that bad. When you compare them to Twilight.

Actually, when you think about it, most films are bad or average, how often do you actually get that sense of heightened awareness that a movie should give you? and i'm talking about in tersm of watching new films every year, it's easy to go back and cherrypick the best films that have been made since the start of the twentieth century and get that feeling, but I'm talking about how many films are proportionally made that actually do the job they set out to do? Which should be to transport your concioussness and give you a fulfilled sense of being by the end of it?
Not many, it's just fashionable and predictable to bring up Twilight as a bad movie(s).

 

[CelticPredator]

Yes. Same with a certain other film, that I will not mention, but i'm sure everyone in this thread will know what it is...

But still...you ask which films gave me that feeling? I really felt absorbed into Captain America....and Super 8. The latter of which really struck a cord with me, because I love to make movies. Made them as a kid, and still do.

You'll have to be a bit more specific.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Ok, let's talk George Takei first..he's got a bit of cheek considering *all* of the Star Trek films(tos, tng and the reboot) are pretty crappy, with some good bits here and there throughout the films...none of them come close to the quality of ep IV and V of Star Wars, both of whoich are classic movies that do reach that level of high art imo.

and superhero films? Captain America is just a bit of fluff, that movie should have been like Raiders of the Lost ark for superheroes(but even Spielberg has only made two other films as good as that one, Jaws and Empire of the Sun), as was it was no better than most other average sh films like XMOWolverine, FF2, IM2, Thor, X-Men3, the 89-95 Batman films, Superman III, the Blade trilogy....you might prefer it because you like the character though, and you just want to see the old story brought to life with no surprises.

There are very few sh films that I would say hit the note of high art, Unbreakable is one, the Dark Knight maybe, although it flounders in the third act, but Nolan might finally get to masterpiece level like Unbreakable with the third movie.

 

[CelticPredator]

You asked about movies that left an impact on you. Not high art.

I knew nothing about Cap. But that movie impressed the hell out of me, and I was sold on everything the movie was doing by the end.

Super 8 did the same.

TDK did as well.

Oh and Tron Legacy. That was a pretty amazing filmgoing experience.

 

[CelticPredator]

And you're so incredibly wrong about the Star Trek reboot. That movie was amazing. It was one of the better movies to come out of 2009.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Well, I think a lot of people are probably a bit too easily impressed by films, they have an 'impact' on them because their own lives are not exactly doing much for them.
I have had a pretty interesting life to say the least, so it takes something akin to high art to have any kind of meaningful impact on me.
Otherwise, they are just a distraction to fill my head up for two hours with some fluff.

 

[CelticPredator]

Good for you then.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Well, life can be good for you too, I mean, you are going to film school soon right? I would advise you to get out into real life and try and get into some interesting situations as well, it's all well and good watching films, and studying your craft, but you don't want to end up like a lot of these filmakers who end up making movies about movies...you want to be making movies about real frickin life, about stuff that only happened to *you*.
and I'm not talking about making something directly about yourself, no, just taking those experiences and feeding them into your fiction, the energy you pick up from those experiences, your first hand knowldge of real life.
Spielberg only made a couple of great films, Tarantino has fallen into the same groove and looks like he may never break out of it, those are two guys who are prime examples of playing it safe like that, making movies about movies.
Scorsese led an interesting life, his best movies are very intense, and his films are usually always interesting as a result, he brings some of his real life experiences to his films, he is right there in Raging bull, having come into it after having had a self destructive experience himself.
and don't get me wrong, i'm not saying live life dangerously, what I'm saying is don't let your life get too predictable, or your art will get that way too.

 

[CelticPredator]

Films about life are incredibly boring. I have no need to watch them.

I watch films to ESCAPE life. Even if my life was filled with all kinds of weird ****, I'd much rather make a film about aliens, or monsters or some badass gunslinger woman or man... Things that make the audience happy, and have fun.

I can't even imagine making a film about something real. I'm sure if I have a great story to tell I would, but still. I like to use my imagination. I like to see things I can not see in real life.

Every film about real life is so hopelessly boring, and depressing. I do not understand it.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Films about life are incredibly boring. I have no need to watch them.

I watch films to ESCAPE life. Even if my life was filled with all kinds of weird ****, I'd much rather make a film about aliens, or monsters or some badass gunslinger woman or man... Things that make the audience happy, and have fun.

I can't even imagine making a film about something real. I'm sure if I have a great story to tell I would, but still. I like to use my imagination. I like to see things I can not see in real life.

Every film about real life is so hopelessly boring, and depressing. I do not understand it.

I don't think you got what I meant, i'll say it simply....haha....

Everything you do in your art is informed by your real life experinece, it does not matter if you are making sci-fi puppet explosions in space or a docudrama cinemaverite artyfartyfest.

If you go into making sci-fi films , having only spent your time watching movies, well, chances are, your movie will probably be not that much different from all those movies you watched already, or the movies of your contemporaries, who have also just spent their entire life watching movies...it'll be the people who went out and lived in the real world for kicks too, who went out and tried to get involved in real life, in whatever way they chose, who will come back from the front and inform the films with that real life experience that will give them that extra special boost of individuality.

Look at Lucas...he used to be a race car driver when he was a youth, you can see that in American Graffitti and Star Wars, that excitement, that daring...and then he becomes a business man who sits in business meetings all the time, and we get the prequels, which mainly are about a bunch of boring business people talking in rooms about business.
your life informs your art, always, and too many people inform their art only with other art, and that's why we get so much fiction that is similar to something we have seen before.
I guess it is all about how great an artist you want to be, if you only have the ambition to make movies that people have seen before, then there is not much advice I can give you that will benefit your art, because you've already decided to just make the equivalent of booze and drugs for people, giving them something for them to escape so they don't have to think about anything substantial, you're just gonna be a type of drug dealer really, haha.
But, y'know, you could make something like Star Wars, which provides that escape, we all need that escape in our lives, but also gives a lot of people something substantial too, as there is a lot of heart and excitement in there, as it came from Lucas' real life experineces, as well as his research into other forms of art. You need both, or else it is just gonna be a photocopy of a photocopy.

 

[Godzilla2000]

Well, Twilight doesn't have Carrie Fisher in a metal bikini, does it guys?

 

[Lord]

It's Harry Potter, LotR while great, didn't capture this generation, it did capture the 50s/ 60s generation, Star Wars captured the late 70s, 80s and reached part of the 90s, while Harry Potter caputed the first decade of the 21st Century.

Now Twilight is still trying to be the next Harry Potter

 

[LOBO3315a]

Well, Twilight doesn't have 20 year old Carrie Fisher in a metal bikini, does it guys?

Fixed that for you.