Guy shows off Girlfriend on Bodybuilding.com...comedy ensues

[Logan's Runt]

No they aren't. They're mentally incapacitated. They're trying to communicate what's going on with them in the only way they can through the filter of their mental illness.

jag

Exactly.

 

[jaguarr]

Hmm I get your points on this one. But as you have seen in my other post I know alot about depression, and I already know what you're going to say about my mum being treated badley or whatever. But it does make a difference, that's why I was depressed aswell. Do you know what is like being a young child watching abuse and being absolutely powerless to stop it? You really want to do something but you can't, all that anger and emotions have to remained bottled up inside you. And that is one of the worst things that anyone can do, bottle up their emotions.

Depression (and I'm talking intense, deep, chemically imbalanced depression far beyond what you have most likely experienced in your life) is not the only thing that can bring someone to suicide. It's a mental DISEASE. There's rarely a logical explanation as to why some people opt to kill themselves. Logic and reason go out the window when mental illness is involved.

jag

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Then why are you repeating that you 'manned up' and 'pulled yourself out of it' and indicating that you're better than those people who deserve no sympathy because they 'just quit'? If your point isn't that you're better than them for having ridden it out, what is your point?

My point is that life is hard for 99% of people, life is not easy. So what gives someone the right to just completely forget about their loved ones or whatever because they can't be bothered to try? You say depression is something people can't help, and you are right. But depression is just another obstacle in life. You know what obstacles are there for? To be be beaten, to be hurdled. If someone doesn't want to at least try then well I dunno, I really can't feel for them.

It's like a turtle, you lay him on his back so he can't move. He will never in a million years be able to roll back onto his legs but he will keep trying and trying and trying and trying untill he loses his last breath to roll back over. The task might be impossible, but all I am saying is that you should at least TRY. If not for your loved ones then for yourself.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

You guys obviously don't like me, fair enough I'm not bothered I'm just saying what I really feel. But it seems to me all you are trying to do is try to prove your superior intelligence not discuss different beliefs and opinions.

 

[Logan's Runt]

My point is that life is hard for 99% of people, life is not easy. So what gives someone the right to just completely forget about their loved ones or whatever because they can't be bothered to try? You say depression is something people can't help, and you are right. But depression is just another obstacle in life. You know what obstacles are there for? To be be beaten, to be hurdled. If someone doesn't want to at least try then well I dunno, I really can't feel for them.

They ARE trying, you just don't like the way they're going about it. It's like a person who's suddenly paralyzed from the waist down dragging themselves to the emergency room and the doctors go 'nope you gotta walk through that door for treatment'. You have set out a specific set of rules for when mental illness is 'worthy' and when it's not. I hope someday someone doesn't tell you that your suffering isn't good enough to warrant being considered a human being.

You're talking about death like it's a sweet relief that we're all waiting for and some people are line-jumping. It's insanity.

 

[Erzengel]

My point is that life is hard for 99% of people, life is not easy. So what gives someone the right to just completely forget about their loved ones or whatever because they can't be bothered to try? You say depression is something people can't help, and you are right. But depression is just another obstacle in life. You know what obstacles are there for? To be be beaten, to be hurdled. If someone doesn't want to at least try then well I dunno, I really can't feel for them.

It's like a turtle, you lay him on his back so he can't move. He will never in a million years be able to roll back onto his legs but he will keep trying and trying and trying and trying untill he loses his last breath to roll back over. The task might be impossible, but all I am saying is that you should at least TRY. If not for your loved ones then for yourself.

Being broken up to by a girlfriend and being depressed is A LOT different than someone who suffers from bi-polar disorder, manic-depressive, or schizophrenic. You are talking about different thought patterns, AND things you know as illogical seem perfectly logical to them.

 

[jaguarr]

My point is that life is hard for 99% of people, life is not easy. So what gives someone the right to just completely forget about their loved ones or whatever because they can't be bothered to try? You say depression is something people can't help, and you are right. But depression is just another obstacle in life. You know what obstacles are there for? To be be beaten, to be hurdled. If someone doesn't want to at least try then well I dunno, I really can't feel for them.

THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL! THEY ARE LITERALLY MENTALLY INCAPACITATED! THEY DON'T HAVE THE COGNITIVE ABILITY TO JUST "PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THEIR BOOTSTRAPS AND DEAL WITH LIFE"! IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO TRY. IT'S THAT THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL! I'M NOT SURE YOU'VE GOTTEN THAT THE FIRST 50 TIMES WE'VE SAID IT, SO HERE IT IS AGAIN:

THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL!!!!!!

You guys obviously don't like me, fair enough I'm not bothered I'm just saying what I really feel. But it seems to me all you are trying to do is try to prove your superior intelligence not discuss different beliefs and opinions.

It's got nothing to do with liking you or not liking you. Hell, I barely know you at all even in the message forum sense. But your obstinate refusal to recognize that people who commit suicide or make serious attempts to do so are MENTALLY ILL, not just selfish jerks who gave up on life and didn't want to "try" anymore is horribly frustrating. No one is trying to prove their superior intelligence with you. We are simply raising a very valid point about mental illness and how the suicidal fit into that bucket, which you don't want to give any credence to it would seem.

jag

 

[Ace of Knaves]

They ARE trying, you just don't like the way they're going about it. It's like a person who's suddenly paralyzed from the waist down dragging themselves to the emergency room and the doctors go 'nope you gotta walk through that door for treatment'. You have set out a specific set of rules for when mental illness is 'worthy' and when it's not. I hope someday someone doesn't tell you that your suffering isn't good enough to warrant being considered a human being.

You're talking about death like it's a sweet relief that we're all waiting for and some people are line-jumping. It's insanity.

Thats the thing. I am not treating death lightly. I'm saying a person who commits suicide whether they are genuinely diseased or not is clearly only thinking of themselves. And I personally find that selfish to the extreme. Maybe I was a bit harsh saying they deserve no sympathy, because yes, they do. But my feelings of "man that's harsh to leave all these people completely broken and pained" far outweighs my feelings of sympathy. Unless of course the person who commits suicide has absolutely no clue what they are doing, but if that's the case how would they know how to commit suicide? Your saying it like someone who is actually mentally diseased doesn't realize they are going to cause anyone else any pain. BS. If that was the case then they wouldn't be able to consciously think about killing themselves.

 

[Addendum]

Just start a suicide thread so we can crack more jokes about ugly chicks on cars

 

[Ace of Knaves]

THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL! THEY ARE LITERALLY MENTALLY INCAPACITATED! THEY DON'T HAVE THE COGNITIVE ABILITY TO JUST "PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THEIR BOOTSTRAPS AND DEAL WITH LIFE"! IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO TRY. IT'S THAT THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL! I'M NOT SURE YOU'VE GOTTEN THAT THE FIRST 50 TIMES WE'VE SAID IT, SO HERE IT IS AGAIN:

THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL!!!!!!




It's got nothing to do with liking you or not liking you. Hell, I barely know you at all even in the message forum sense. But your obstinate refusal to recognize that people who commit suicide or make serious attempts to do so are MENTALLY ILL, not just selfish jerks who gave up on life and didn't want to "try" anymore is horribly frustrating. No one is trying to prove their superior intelligence with you. We are simply raising a very valid point about mental illness and how the suicidal fit into that bucket, which you don't want to give any credence to it would seem.

jag

Yes they are mentally ill, but if they were soooooo badly mentally ill to not realize the pain they would cause to other people, then how the **** would they know how to top them selves?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL! THEY ARE LITERALLY MENTALLY INCAPACITATED! THEY DON'T HAVE THE COGNITIVE ABILITY TO JUST "PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THEIR BOOTSTRAPS AND DEAL WITH LIFE"! IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO TRY. IT'S THAT THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL! I'M NOT SURE YOU'VE GOTTEN THAT THE FIRST 50 TIMES WE'VE SAID IT, SO HERE IT IS AGAIN:

THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL!!!!!!




It's got nothing to do with liking you or not liking you. Hell, I barely know you at all even in the message forum sense. But your obstinate refusal to recognize that people who commit suicide or make serious attempts to do so are MENTALLY ILL, not just selfish jerks who gave up on life and didn't want to "try" anymore is horribly frustrating. No one is trying to prove their superior intelligence with you. We are simply raising a very valid point about mental illness and how the suicidal fit into that bucket, which you don't want to give any credence to it would seem.

jag

Yes they are mentally ill, but if they were soooooo badly mentally ill to not realize the pain they would cause to other people, then how the **** would they know how to top them selves? Thats what i'm trying to say, no matter how mentally ill they are, if they have the mental capacity to kill themselves then they MUST have the mental capacity to realize the pain their actions are going to cause. And that to me is selfish.

 

[Addendum]

Yes they are mentally ill, but if they were soooooo badly mentally ill to not realize the pain they would cause to other people, then how the **** would they know how to top them selves?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

LOL. Thats funny.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yes they are mentally ill, but if they were soooooo badly mentally ill to not realize the pain they would cause to other people, then how the **** would they know how to top them selves? Thats what i'm trying to say, no matter how mentally ill they are, if they have the mental capacity to kill themselves then they MUST have the mental capacity to realize the pain their actions are going to cause. And that to me is selfish.

Come on then I wanna see one of you try to answer this.

 

[JayCaz]

Guy posts funny thread on Superherohype.com in which a guy shows off Girlfriend on Bodybuilding.com...comedy DOES NOT ensue.........

 

[Addendum]

The comedy was overtaken by the drama crowd

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Guy posts funny thread on Superherohype.com in which a guy shows off Girlfriend on Bodybuilding.com...comedy DOES NOT ensue.........

The comedy was overtaken by the drama crowd

Sorry guys, I just don't like people talking to me like i'm a an idiot. And anyway, my last post on the matter just completely blew all their arguments out of the water.

 

[JayCaz]

Sorry guys, I just don't like people talking to me like i'm a an idiot. And anyway, my last post on the matter just completely blew all their arguments out of the water.

Shut up fool

 

[JayCaz]

 

[jaguarr]

Yes they are mentally ill, but if they were soooooo badly mentally ill to not realize the pain they would cause to other people, then how the **** would they know how to top them selves? Thats what i'm trying to say, no matter how mentally ill they are, if they have the mental capacity to kill themselves then they MUST have the mental capacity to realize the pain their actions are going to cause. And that to me is selfish.

Being mentally ill doesn't mean they turn in to Rain Man and can no longer do the most basic of things. Your question doesn't even make sense in the context of mental illness. They are mentally ill precisely because they are able to actively devise ways to kill themselves, going against the very grain of the basic human instinct of survival. And being aware (or not being aware) of the impact of their actions on family members and friends has absolutely nothing to do with their cognitive ability to find ways to kill themselves. They are not mutually exclusive concepts in any way, so your "if...MUST" statement is completely inaccurate.

jag

 

[Logan's Runt]

Yes they are mentally ill, but if they were soooooo badly mentally ill to not realize the pain they would cause to other people, then how the **** would they know how to top them selves? Thats what i'm trying to say, no matter how mentally ill they are, if they have the mental capacity to kill themselves then they MUST have the mental capacity to realize the pain their actions are going to cause. And that to me is selfish.

That's the ****ing point, idiot!

Their minds are SO out of whack that they are completely convinced that the people around them won't miss them, won't feel bad, don't care, or will be BETTER OFF without them. Like a schizophrenic person is CONVINCED that the voices in their head are real. Like a person with multiple personalities actually has multiple personalities that do things that the other personalities don't know about.

You don't seem to believe that utter detachment from reality is POSSIBLE.

In the real world, killing yourself is never the best option. Therefore, when someone does it, they are NOT living in the REAL WORLD.

They are SOOOOO MENTALLY ILL

There, you saw me answer you.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

WOW, this thing is a monster!! (The thread, I mean!)

Didn't mean to derail

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

Remember kids, cut down, not across.

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[JLBats]

Sorry guys, I just don't like people talking to me like i'm a an idiot. And anyway, my last post on the matter just completely blew all their arguments out of the water.

Why, because you think that a mental illness of PERCEPTION makes them literally unable to kill themselves due to... what, exactly? Impaired dexterity? That doesn't even make sense

 

[Logan's Runt]

Why, because you think that a mental illness of PERCEPTION makes them literally unable to kill themselves due to... what, exactly? Impaired dexterity? That doesn't even make sense

Apparently mental illness is the same as 'brain damage'