Heroes: When did it get bad for you?

[GL1]

Just pointing it out after Krozee mentioned both D.L and Knox got offed.

Lol. I meant it colloquially. It's short for "Why are you telling me when I already know it so well?"

 

[Infinity9999x]

After watching Vol 1 season 3 of Heroes I have to say the only good thing about it was the last episode. The way Sylar *****ed with Claire, Angela, Noah, and Claire's mom was nice.

However, I was very frustrated with Sylar's switching loyalties. At first when they tried to justify his evilness through the "hunger" I just rolled my eyes. So the "hunger" made him want to blow up New York? Yeah, that fits... He did lots of evil things that didn't connect to his drive for power, so it was just stupid.

However, once they started down the "redemption" road, I would have rather they stayed with that they just jump back again, because then we've literally watched hours of TV for absolutely nothing. I think that once they had already introduced the idea that he might have a conscience, it would have been much more interesting to keep going down that road. Have him eventually become a hero and have to deal with the fact that he has a lot of people who hate him because of all the **** he did.

Also, Arthur Petrelli just stunk of wasted potential to me. I don't know if it was the actor who played him or the director, but the way he was portrayed was incredibly bland. He had no charisma or presence. When Angela told him he would release her because he still loved her deep down I was just going "really? Because I think you're off your f*&cking rocker Angela."

I always imagined Arthur as being more like Peter, and once I relized he would be the villain, I imagined him as a Peter gone bad. But he was just boring. Even as a stock evil villain he was bad. No charisma, nothing.

 

[The Sage]

I'd say the Season 1 finale when they didn't deliver on the Sylar/Peter confrontation everyone had been waiting for. After that, it was never the same AGAIN.

I thought the hunger idea was stupid, and that it was stupid for Peter to have it. Okay, so the hunger caused Sylar to kill people and get their abilities...why would Peter have the hunger when he copies someone's ability by standing next to him/her?

Then the rewriting of Sylar as a Petrelli. At first I wasn't sure about it, but once they revealed Nathan's ability to be synthetic, it made sense for Sylar to be a Petrelli, as he, Peter, and Arthur all had similar abilities. After all of that then just changing him back to the way he was without any development.

They could've at least revealed that Angela and Arthur dumped Sylar because of a dream Angela had in which she saw Sylar as a killer, therein giving Sylar a reason to kill Arthur but spare Peter. Heck, that could've added more to the Sylar/Nathan confrontations.

Meh...

 

[chamber-music]

Sylars motivation keeps changing. One minute its a hunger for powers he can't control, the next its because his a hunter with a need to kill, next he wants to prove his special, next he wants to prove he can be good, it goes on and on.

Perhaps too many writers with no coherents or clear understanding of what exactly they want the charcter to be.

 

[Mister J]

The show turning into an extended version of 'Meet the Petrellis' turned me off as well.

 

[Milu]

Other things I forgot to mention (in no particular order):

1. Wanton abuse of the idiot ball. As you can imagine, based on the number of times characters had their intelligence and common sense reduced to move the plot further, the idiot ball has been tossed around like a hot potato.
2. The killing off of Adam, who was the best thing about volume two.
3. Arthur, allegedly a big threat, only to done in in an unspectacular fashion. And this was the guy who killed Adam!
4. Sylar's changing motivations, as mentioned above.
5. Not getting to see the complete mutation of Mohinder.

 

[Max J Power]

It never got bad, but I lost interest after a few episodes of season 3. It's not that I disliked the plot, but the problems I always had with the show--mostly having too many characters and dragging out the story--weren't going away and I doubt they ever will. I tried to start watching the fourth volume on Hulu when it started, but I always opted to watch something else.

 

[Sawyer]

The Eclipse two-parter. They wasted two episodes with a story that could've been covered in one or less. "Ooh, Sylar and Claire are dead. Oh, wait, not really. Sylar's a good guy and he and Elle are in love! Oh, wait, he's evil and he just killed her. Hiro's a ****ing ten-year-old!!!" New writers please.

 

[Infinity9999x]

The Eclipse two-parter. They wasted two episodes with a story that could've been covered in one or less. "Ooh, Sylar and Claire are dead. Oh, wait, not really. Sylar's a good guy and he and Elle are in love! Oh, wait, he's evil and he just killed her. Hiro's a ****ing ten-year-old!!!" New writers please.

I'm halfway through season 3 on Hulu right now and I've noticed that this is a trend. The whole, twist, minor development, then revert back to nothing. It's bad storytelling and it's annoying.

I'm also getting tired of killing off the love interests. I mean when

Spoiler

Daphny got offed

it pissed me off, because it was nothing more than cheap shock value.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

I'd say it got mediocre after Noah died and came back from Claire's blood. Then became bad at the beginning of season 3, and when Volume 4 took over headed back on the path to recovery...only to possibly derail again with the Nathan/Sylar thing.

 

[Steyin]

The lackluster finale of season 1 spelt trouble for me. I was however intrigued by where season 2 was going, then the writer's strike ultimately killed Heroes. I enjoyed all of season 3 for the most part, but again, a lucklaster and ****ing stupid finale has hurt Heroes so bad in my head that I don't know if there is any chance of "Redemption".

 

[Infinity9999x]

I'd say it got mediocre after Noah died and came back from Claire's blood. Then became bad at the beginning of season 3, and when Volume 4 took over headed back on the path to recovery...only to possibly derail again with the Nathan/Sylar thing.

Exactly, that was one of the dumbest writing choices to make, because it automatically takes away the threat of anyone dying. Just have Claire donate some blood every month or so, keep it in storage, and if someone dies, just hook the blood up to them and they'll be fine.

When Nathan was shot at the end of S2, I wasn't worried at all. I just kept thinking "what's the big deal? Just ship Clare on down and she'll bring him back with her magic blood."

It was a dumb move, and as everyone has noticed I'm sure, the writers haven't returned to it since.

 

[Sentinel X]

Episode 1 season 3.

It was just a terrible season opener. I thought it would get better but things got worse and worse. I didn't even finish the volume (I was like 3 episodes away). I LOVED season 1, liked season 2, but detested season 3.

Im also starting to beleive what people are saying (how Kring is just ripping off X-men and watchmen). How else do you get so bad, so soon? Its a new show and the writing just took a 180 degree turn. I don't think he had much good ideas to begin with.

Its sad because I saw so much potential in Heroes. It could have been incredible.

 

[HLJokerfan28]

I think there are definitely certain things that I didn't agree with

1. Sylar getting stabbed and after 8 surgeries and 4 months in a coma, comes back to life
2. Niki's 3rd personality
3. D.L. dying
4. Niki dying
5. Mohinder giving himself powers (seriously?)
6. The whole Gabriel/Elle relationship was weird too (how, even though he killed her father and she basically forced him to become this serial killer, they would be together... not to mention that scene at the car rentals... and the fact that he killed her after he got his powers back)
7. Tracy Strauss being one of Niki's triplets
8. and there were a few others, but the main thing that bothered me is Angela, Noah, and Matt making Sylar Nathan when they could have just used Claire's blood to bring the real Nathan back to life (possibility for the new season?)

Anyway, no, Heroes isn't exactly what it used to be, but I still enjoy watching it.