Highlander!

[TheCorpulent1]

I think a few use axes or other bladed weapons. But swords have just kind of evolved to be the standard.

I knew that. Although, I always thought it would be cool if a regular human killed an immortal, absorbed the quickening, and was overwhealmed by it, putting him into a coma or killing him outright.

Highlander: The Raven would never have worked. Amanda's man-b**** killed a few Immortals before he became one himself, as I recall. Amanda got a few Quickenings off of his kills, too.

 

[wiegeabo]

I havn't seen the show.

It's worth it, especially once you get past the first episodes. (Season 6 could have been better too. They only did half a season, and the episodes were pretty much introductions to Immortals for a possible spinoff).

You just sort of have to gloss over the fact that the end of the Highlander movie wasn't really the prize (even though Duncan appears and they make mention of him killing Kurgan).

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Connor appears, you mean. I always thought it'd be funny if Connor were like, "Yeah, I totally thought I won the Prize. Then I remembered you were probably still around, Duncan. Whoops!"

 

[deathshead2]

Im sort of afird to buy the show its like 60 bucks.For 1 season.

 

[wiegeabo]

Have immotals always use swords to fight each other.Don't they ever use something else.

One Immortal used an axe. But usually they use swords. There was tha one episode where Duncan got the quickening when the other immortal got his head chopped off by a ship propeller.

The bigger question is...where did they keep those swords? I've seen Duncan in a shirt and jeans all of the sudden pull out a sword. Where was he hiding it!?!

 

[deathshead2]

One Immortal used an axe. But usually they use swords. There was tha one episode where Duncan got the quickening when the other immortal got his head chopped off by a ship propeller.

Thats sort of cool. Don't immortals still get injured so I always thought why doesn't one of them shoot the other one with a sniper then go down to them a cut there head off with a sword.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Some Immortals started using guns. I remember one dude in particular who did just what you're suggesting: he was a relatively weak swordsman, so he'd shoot his opponent and then take their head while they were incapacitated. Most of the Immortals believe in fighting one-on-one with just their swords and their wits--the good ones because of honor, I guess, and the bad ones because they don't want anyone else getting in the way or robbing them of their Quickening.

 

[The Question]

I think a few use axes or other bladed weapons. But swords have just kind of evolved to be the standard.

Swords are also the most common form of bladed weapon all over the world. And they've used all different kinds of swords in the movies and the series. Conner uses a Katana, Duncan has used bitha Katana and a Celtic Broadsword, Methos uses a longsword, and I've seen a few rapiers on the show.

 

[wiegeabo]

Connor appears, you mean. I always thought it'd be funny if Connor were like, "Yeah, I totally thought I won the Prize. Then I remembered you were probably still around, Duncan. Whoops!"

Yeah, Conner.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Swords are also the most common form of bladed weapon all over the world. And they've used all different kinds of swords in the movies and the series. Conner uses a Katana, Duncan has used bitha Katana and a Celtic Broadsword, Methos uses a longsword, and I've seen a few rapiers on the show.

I always wondered how the hell those broadsword-carrying jackasses managed to stay in the Game so long. In reality, there's very little finesse or swordplay to wielding a broadsword or a claymore or those types of swords. They were giant blades of death meant to hack through armor through sheer force. A normal adult male could probably only swing one for about ten consecutive minutes before passing out from the strain. I'd take the McLeods' katanas or a rapier any day.

 

[wiegeabo]

Some Immortals started using guns. I remember one dude in particular who did just what you're suggesting: he was a relatively weak swordsman, so he'd shoot his opponent and then take their head while they were incapacitated. Most of the Immortals believe in fighting one-on-one with just their swords and their wits--the good ones because of honor, I guess, and the bad ones because they don't want anyone else getting in the way or robbing them of their Quickening.

You thinking of Xavier St.Cloud? Teaming up with the watchers who'd shoot his victim, then he'd take their head.

They usually don't shoot Immortals first because "its against the rules." The rules that, supposedly, even the most evil of Immortals wouldn't break. Like fighting on holy ground. (Even though we've seen those rules violated before, it's the exception rather than the rule.)


God I miss talking about Highlander.

 

[deathshead2]

Im watching some highlander stuff on youtube and dang if I watch the show its going to be hard for me to get past Duncans voice I hate it.ARRRR

 

[TheCorpulent1]

You thinking of Xavier St.Cloud? Teaming up with the watchers who'd shoot his victim, then he'd take their head.

They usually don't shoot Immortals first because "its against the rules." The rules that, supposedly, even the most evil of Immortals wouldn't break. Like fighting on holy ground. (Even though we've seen those rules violated before, it's the exception rather than the rule.)


God I miss talking about Highlander.

Yeah, Endgame f***ed up the holy ground rule. Dawson mentioned that the last time an Immortal broke that rule, Pompey was destroyed. But then in Endgame the villain dude tears through Sanctuary, which was supposed to be on holy ground, and nothing happens.

And yes, it's been a long time since I talked about any of this stuff.

 

[deathshead2]

What do the watchers even do and do they know where the immortals come from?

 

[wiegeabo]

What do the watchers even do and do they know where the immortals come from?

Well, if you don't mind me ruining it.

Watchers watch, but they never interfere. At least, they're not supposed to. They are a secret society that know all about the Immortals, the rules, the Gathering, and the Prize. Their task is to record everything that happens throughout history involving the Immortals so humanity will know the truth when the Prize is won.

 

[deathshead2]

Thats really really lame. And I forgot is the prize anything the wiiner wants ro was it being humans with the knowage of everything cus thats what conner got but I can't remember if they get to chosse or not.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

No one knows. It's supposed to be ultimate power or something, but I guess that would be in the eye of the beholder.

And the Watchers aren't lame. There were a lot of really great storylines that came out of their presence.

 

[wiegeabo]

Thats really really lame. And I forgot is the prize anything the wiiner wants ro was it being humans with the knowage of everything cus thats what conner got but I can't remember if they get to chosse or not.

It might be lame if they never interfered. But then a secret society within the society cropped up. One intent on killing all Immortals so that none could win the prize, convinced that the one who did would rule humanity.


And the winner of the prize has a choice to make. They can have the power to enslave humanity and rule over it (and I believe keep their immortality). Or, they can choose to help humanity, gaining the power to hear the thoughts of all others and help them understand each other, at the cost of their immortality (although they can grow old, and have children). Which is what Conner did.

 

[deathshead2]

I remember the rule humanity thing from endgame(I really wish I could forget this movie).

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It might be lame if they never interfered. But then a secret society within the society cropped up. One intent on killing all Immortals so that none could win the prize, convinced that the one who did would rule humanity.


And the winner of the prize has a choice to make. They can have the power to enslave humanity and rule over it (and I believe keep their immortality). Or, they can choose to help humanity, gaining the power to hear the thoughts of all others and help them understand each other, at the cost of their immortality (although they can grow old, and have children). Which is what Conner did.

Or the Prize could be something entirely different, since no one's won it yet, technically.

Anyway, since this thread has gone from the comic series to just a general Highlander free-for-all, I'm curious: has anyone seen Highlander 2: The Renegade Version (or whatever it's called)? Supposedly it takes out all the alien/Zeist crap and makes Highlander 2 much more enjoyable. I don't know if it's even worth watching, though, because I remember Highlander 2 having a really s***ty plot even without the alien crap.

 

[deathshead2]

I havn't but next time im at blockbuster i'll rent it.

 

[wiegeabo]

I've seen it, but since it had been so long since I had seen the original cut, I'd forgotten specifics of what was different. I do remember it being much better and making a lot more sense

 

[The Question]

I always wondered how the hell those broadsword-carrying jackasses managed to stay in the Game so long. In reality, there's very little finesse or swordplay to wielding a broadsword or a claymore or those types of swords. They were giant blades of death meant to hack through armor through sheer force. A normal adult male could probably only swing one for about ten consecutive minutes before passing out from the strain. I'd take the McLeods' katanas or a rapier any day.

Well, I guess they just had the upper body strength necessairy to weild them. Since the immortals regenerate faster than normal, I guess they could also buld muscle mass more quickly. And really, if you can use a broadsword well, then you could cut a guy in half with one swing. Makes cutting the heat off easier. I doubt you'd be able to cut someone's head off with a rapier very easy. Hell, you'd have to saw it off with a rapier.

Also, as for the prize, I assumed that since it's aparantly the sum total of all the quickenings of every immortal who's ever died in the game, it gives the winner super mental powers (as it did with conner). Wether or not the immortality goes away is unknown, since the Conner winning the prize bit of the first film has been retconned into Conner simply getting revenge on the Kurgen for killing his best friend and raping his wife.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Even though Ramirez mysteriously returns in the second movie.

As for the sword question, yes, a rapier sucks for cutting heads off, but it's so much faster than a broadsword that you could probably bring the other Immortal to a "normal" death really easily while they're flailing around like an idiot, then take their broadsword off their defenseless near-corpse and cut off their head with that.

 

[The Question]

*sigh* Everyone knows that the second movie was just the dream Conner had the night when he got really really drunk, watched Santa Clause conquers the Martians on TV, and passed out.