Highlander!

[Spike_x1]

Yeah, but Connor knew that Kell wouldn't kill him; Jacob would only kill the ones Connor loved, in order to torture him. That, plus Connor's growing distaste for life ever since the first movie, made him decide to give Duncan the necessary power to beat Kell.

I don't think Connor expected Kell to view it as Duncan inheriting Connor's curse, as well as his power.

 

[The Question]

I suppose. Still, it would have been better, I think, if Connor went after Kell and killed him himself. I always saw Connor as being absolutely miserable with his life, but still unwilling to give up on it because he's got the stubornness of a highland warrior.

 

[Spike_x1]

I suppose. Still, it would have been better, I think, if Connor went after Kell and killed him himself. I always saw Connor as being absolutely miserable with his life, but still unwilling to give up on it because he's got the stubornness of a highland warrior.

Yes, but Connor couldn't defeat Kell, and he wasn't about to take Duncan's head to gain the power needed.

I always thought Connor's end in the movie felt natural and appropriately heartbreaking, but that's probably just me. We knew from the very beginning that there could be only one, afterall.

In fact, the story of Endgame is actually my favorite from all of the movies. Altogether, I liked the first film the most, but storywise (taking into account the character development we were shown throughout the previous movies for Connor, and the entire television series for Duncan), Endgame was a very nice way to top it all off, IMHO.

If only the movie didn't look so cheap, and Bruce Payne's acting weren't so weird, then it might actually be my favorite of all the films.

 

[The Question]

True. I guess I just always saw Connor as the "Life's tough, wear a helmet" guy. His life sucks but he's not going to wuss out by offing himself.

 

[The Question]

EDIT: DEATH TO ALL DOUBLE POSTS AND ALL THOSE THEY HOLD DEAR!!!!!!

 

[Spike_x1]

When does this comic come out, anyway? It's supposed to be sometime in October, right?

 

[The Question]

A preveiw issue came out in Auguts. The writing was good, but the art was meh.

 

[Spike_x1]

Alright. I'll have to look for that. Was it just one of those cheap 25 or 10 cent ones?

 

[The Question]

I think it was a few dollars. The story was a little short short. Basically, it introduced a Russian gang who worshiped the Kurgan as their warrior god, and now want revenge after Connor killed him.

 

[GyLocke]

True. I guess I just always saw Connor as the "Life's tough, wear a helmet" guy. His life sucks but he's not going to wuss out by offing himself.

That's the best way to describe Connor I ever heard.

 

[wobbly]

Yes, but Connor couldn't defeat Kell, and he wasn't about to take Duncan's head to gain the power needed.

I always thought Connor's end in the movie felt natural and appropriately heartbreaking, but that's probably just me. We knew from the very beginning that there could be only one, afterall.

In fact, the story of Endgame is actually my favorite from all of the movies. Altogether, I liked the first film the most, but storywise (taking into account the character development we were shown throughout the previous movies for Connor, and the entire television series for Duncan), Endgame was a very nice way to top it all off, IMHO.

If only the movie didn't look so cheap, and Bruce Payne's acting weren't so weird, then it might actually be my favorite of all the films.

To be honest Lambert felt very much like a guest star in 'Endgame' (the film was a follow up to the series rather than any of the prior movies and centred on Duncan anyway), so Connor's death and Duncan taking down Kell in the finale came as no surprise to me .
I figured Duncan would be the one to kill Connor too as soon as they showed that flashback scene to the 'no defense' maneuver. And Connors death was the best scene in the film for me, given how he had been portrayed as a tortured soul from the start of it. (Will add though that Connor Macleod will always remain the real Highlander for me...The first film is far and away my favorite of anything that has come from the franchise).
At least with that little CGI morph trick they pulled (however poorly it was done) they did show Connor's spirit was indeed now a part of Duncan.

But as to there only being one in the end...well that was what p#ssed me off about the film...there wasn't. Duncan's immortal former wife was still alive and I can't remember if Mephos' fate was revealed either, so calling it 'Endgame' was a little misleading.

 

[Spike_x1]

Yeah, we know that the game didn't really end by the end of the movie, so the title is kind of "uhh... oookaaay..." But aside from that, I think the movie still worked for Lambert to appropriately pass the torch on.

As for who the real Highlander was, for me, it's an even split between Connor and Duncan. I also like the fact that, if you think about it, Jacob Kell was a Highlander too.

 

[wobbly]

Yeah, we know that the game didn't really end by the end of the movie, so the title is kind of "uhh... oookaaay..." But aside from that, I think the movie still worked for Lambert to appropriately pass the torch on.

As for who the real Highlander was, for me, it's an even split between Connor and Duncan. I also like the fact that, if you think about it, Jacob Kell was a Highlander too.

And ironically, it was the guy playing the 3000 year old egyptian with a spanish name that is the closest to being a real highlander

Regarding passing the torch on, are they making any more movies?

 

[The Question]

There's been talk of a film entitled Highlander: The Source, which will prominantly feature Duncan and Methos and will explore the origin of the Immortals.

 

[Spike_x1]

There's supposed to be a new one called "Highlander: The Source" coming out sometime soon, I think (it'll probably be DTV).

EDIT: Damn you, Q! Rar!

 

[deathshead2]

There really aren't talks sense they finshed filming like a year ago. I got disc 5 of season 1 in the mail. The show has really picked up. The question about if your evil and kill a good guy will his quicking make you good as well is really cool.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Highlander the source has finished filming and editing and is now in special effects.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

There's been talk of a film entitled Highlander: The Source, which will prominantly feature Duncan and Methos and will explore the origin of the Immortals.

Duncan, Methos, AND Joe Dawson. Don't neglect Joe, damn it. I'm looking forward to The Source cautiously. On one hand, the idea of exploring the roots of immortality is kind of intriguing, but I can't think of any explanation that wouldn't be a disappointment. No matter what it is, it'll remove too much of the mystique that the Highlander films have thrived on. But, on the other hand, it's such an obvious idea that grows out of the series, which established the Watchers, so organically. As historians, why wouldn't they eventually endeavor to discover the immortals' origins, especially in the modern day, with its incessant need to quantify everything? One of the main writers/masterminds behind some of the TV series' best episodes, David Abramowitz, wrote the script, I believe, so that's good. Methos and Joe are my two favorite characters from all things Highlander, so that's good. But I'm still vaguely skeptical that any Highlander film can be genuinely good again after the first, given how much the following ones have sucked. We'll see.

Endgame was a pretty terrible movie, I thought. As Spike pointed out, the story itself wasn't bad, but the execution definitely was. I think they were a bit too ambitious and bogged the film down with a lot of unnecessary elements. Really, were any of Kell's immortal thugs besides Kate useful in any way whatsoever? I also wasn't a big fan of Connor offing himself. They established that Kell was breaking rules left and right in the film; why didn't Connor and Duncan just break a rule themselves by fighting Kell together? Endgame seemed to obnoxiously be trying to lend credence to the TV version of Highlander at the expense of the films.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

It also made Kell unreasonably more powerful by making the number of kills more important than who was killed. Conner killed the Kurgen and took everything that he accumulated over the thousands of years of killing. Duncan took 2 of the 4 horsemen and yet that didn't seem to matter at all.

 

[Spike_x1]

It also made Kell unreasonably more powerful by making the number of kills more important than who was killed. Conner killed the Kurgen and took everything that he accumulated over the thousands of years of killing. Duncan took 2 of the 4 horsemen and yet that didn't seem to matter at all.

I agree with that, to an extent. It's true that Endgame really did overemphasize the importance of the amount of quickenings over whose quickening it came from exactly, but what we don't know is how powerful the 665 people Kell killed were. I mean, for all we know, any number of those immortals may have been equal to, near equal to, or even above the Kurgan or the Horsemen in power.

It's just one of those details that really should've been better explained and fleshed out more.

 

[Cobblepot]

They should just restart the movie franchise like they did with Batman.
Thomas Jane should get the part, he looks a lot like Lambert.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

They won't restart it, and I wouldn't want them to. Connor, according to the movie timeline, is now dead and Adrian Paul doesn't seem to age (he looks the ****ing same as he did when the TV series started!), so I think they'll be fine for another few years.

 

[Spike_x1]

I realized that too at one point. I mean, Connor's supposed to be physically 18 years old, but Lambert, suffice to say, did not look anywhere close to being 18 in Endgame.

I think Adrian Paul actually is immortal. I mean, holy crap, he's gotta be!

 

[The Question]

I realized that too at one point. I mean, Connor's supposed to be physically 18 years old, but Lambert, suffice to say, did not look anywhere close to being 18 in Endgame.

Connor was 18 when he had his first death?

I think Adrian Paul actually is immortal. I mean, holy crap, he's gotta be!

Let's put that to the test. *pumps shotgun*

 

[Spike_x1]

Yeah, he was born in 1518 and "died" in 1536.