Hippie Hunter Sez Week One: "My Eyes Have Been Opened"

hippie_hunter said:
1. Regime change in Iraq was a policy started by the Clinton Administration. It was stated in the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998.
Yeah, I believe that Rep/Dem is an illusion. They're all on the same team.

2. Who's Sauron Hussein? :huh:
That was a play on:

In an interview with the Bucks County Courier Times, embattled Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum has equated the war in Iraq with J.R.R. Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings." According to the paper, Santorum said that the United States has avoided terrorists attacks at home over the last five years because the "Eye of Mordor" has been focused on Iraq.


You wouldn't watch it no matter who's in power. Nobody does. They're boring and the interupt normal TV such as Family Guy pissing everyone off.
No, I used to watch them for comedic value. Now they're too painful, like when someone says "irregardless" or "I could care less." and when you correct them, they say "F.U., I talk how I talk."
For instance, I know Bush eventually heard people mocking him for saying "noo-kyoo-lur", but he persists.

Al looked cool with a beard.
No, 'cause it wasn't a fashion choice, it was "double chin-hiding beard". down


1. That was Hugo Chavez, he would have still called the American President the Devil because he hates the United States.
Maybe, but I'll bet he wouldn't've said that Gore is stinky like sulphur. :(



Things will never change :oldrazz:
Tr00f
 
War Lord said:
Propaganda is nothing new and never really changes in intent.


But you've still not seen this, therefore you don't know if it's even actual propaganda.
 
bored said:
But you've still not seen this, therefore you don't know if it's even actual propaganda.

Yeah, I do know it's actual propaganda without seeing it. It's done by Al Gore and that's all I need to know about it.
 
War Lord said:
Yeah, I do know it's actual propaganda without seeing it. It's done by Al Gore and that's all I need to know about it.


Now that is just ignorant. The former vice-president automatically equals propaganda?
 
bored said:
Now that is just ignorant. The former vice-president automatically equals propaganda?

It's not ignorant, it's factual.

But you believe him because he invented the internet.
 
War Lord said:
It's not ignorant, it's factual.

But you believe him because he invented the internet.


You've basically given up right here. You know what I said is right, but you refuse to admit it, so you make a dumb joke. I think someone needs a nap.
 
War Lord said:
It's not ignorant, it's factual.

But you believe him because he invented the internet.

no, actually it's ignorant, and by trying to ridicule Bored by implying he is gullible you merely underscored your ignorance.
 
bored said:
You've basically given up right here. You know what I said is right, but you refuse to admit it, so you make a dumb joke. I think someone needs a nap.

No, I don't know what you said is right and neither do you. Only hindsight can be 20/20.

I don't see the evidence to show our environment is really in long-term trouble. It might be in the short term, but that's ok, because time heals all wounds.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
no, actually it's ignorant, and by trying to ridicule Bored by implying he is gullible you merely underscored your ignorance.

And your point?
 
War Lord said:
And your point?

the point you tried to make was ignorant, and your reaction to it being called ignorant while trying to sound clever merely made you look MORE ignorant.


it was pretty clear.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
the point you tried to make was ignorant, and your reaction to it being called ignorant while trying to sound clever merely made you look MORE ignorant.


it was pretty clear.

You're now speaking in circles.
 
War Lord said:
It's as much a coincidence that trying to do anything without knowing which way to go is simply a waste of time and benefits activists who want people to live their way, despite no real benefit gained from it.

While I agree about the Kyoto Protocol business, the statement above reminded me of a question that occurs to me from time to time---

While it's true that environmental activists are sometimes wrongheaded in their particular causes, what do they actually "gain" from their positions?

In other words, its easy to see why a large multimillion-dollar company would put forth the idea that they should not be forced to spend money on reducing their pollutution levels, becuse they are looking out for their own wallets and the financial satisfaction of their stockholders.

Conversely, what does Al Gore really have to gain at this point by speaking out about global warming? Maybe he personally stands to gain some royalties from book and movie ticket sales, but what about all the scientists and other "little people" who support his position? Do their potential "benefits" from having their advice taken really compare with the benefits received by big businesses if that advice is ignored?
 
The Lizard said:
While I agree about the Kyoto Protocol business, the statement above reminded me of a question that occurs to me from time to time---

While it's true that environmental activists are sometimes wrongheaded in their particular causes, what do they actually "gain" from their positions?

In other words, its easy to see why a large multimillion-dollar company would put forth the idea that they should not be forced to spend money on reducing their pollutution levels, becuse they are looking out for their own wallets and the financial satisfaction of their stockholders.

Conversely, what does Al Gore really have to gain at this point by speaking out about global warming? Maybe he personally stands to gain some royalties from book and movie ticket sales, but what about all the scientists and other "little people" who support his position? Do their potential "benefits" from having their advice taken really compare with the benefits received by big businesses if that advice is ignored?

It's not the little people that gain, it's always the head honchos of the respective organizations. The head honchos like all those government grants or donations that they get to promote their respective causes. Even if Kyoto was achievable, which it isn't, once it was achieved, they'd be as quick on Kyoto II, because they want to continue getting those donations and government grants. It would never end.

Scientists can and are often wrong, because science is ever changing. They're assuming that man is the main cause and therefore the main solution, when it's as least as likely that the earth warming is part of a normal cycle as it always has been in the past when the earth was even warmer than it is now during the Renaissance.
 
War Lord said:
It's not the little people that gain, it's always the head honchos of the respective organizations. The head honchos like all those government grants or donations that they get to promote their respective causes. Even if Kyoto was achievable, which it isn't, once it was achieved, they'd be as quick on Kyoto II, because they want to continue getting those donations and government grants. It would never end.


still, how do they profit from you "living the way they want you to"?
 
Mr Sparkle said:
still, how do they profit from you "living the way they want you to"?

From the grants and donations. And as I've pointed out, even if Kyoto was achieved, they'd want Kyoto II to continue getting those grants and donations.
 
War Lord said:
From the grants and donations. And as I've pointed out, even if Kyoto was achieved, they'd want Kyoto II to continue getting those grants and donations.

:huh: how do you living a certain way insure grants and donations to them?
If I recycle and buy a small car instead of an suv how does that profit them?
If cleaner energy research is pursued how does that profit them?
by your line of reasoning wouldn't the status quo profit the oil companies and existing enrgy companies more? shoulnd't you be skeptical of their claims also?
 
Mr Sparkle said:
:huh: how do you living a certain way insure grants and donations to them?
If I recycle and buy a small car instead of an suv how does that profit them?
If cleaner energy research is pursued how does that profit them?
by your line of reasoning wouldn't the status quo profit the oil companies and existing enrgy companies more? shoulnd't you be skeptical of their claims also?

It's not a matter of whether you make changes to your lifestyle or not. All that really matters to them is that they get more grants and donations. If everybody happened to switch to the way these organizations wanted you to switch, they'd find new causes or new extremes of current causes to keep those grants going into their pocket.

There is no cause that can't be stretched forever.
 
War Lord said:
It's not a matter of whether you make changes to your lifestyle or not. All that really matters to them is that they get more grants and donations. If everybody happened to switch to the way these organizations wanted you to switch, they'd find new causes or new extremes of current causes to keep those grants going into their pocket.

There is no cause that can't be stretched forever.


:huh: but you just said that it did matter


War Lord said:
It's as much a coincidence that trying to do anything without knowing which way to go is simply a waste of time and benefits activists who want people to live their way, despite no real benefit gained from it.

this is sort of in oposition to what you just said.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
:huh: but you just said that it did matter

this is sort of in oposition to what you just said.

War Lord aka jonty30 makes very little sense when he says anything really, but especially when he goes on his little pro-right-wing rants.

I blame it all on the little monkey that jonty's mom bought him that types his Hype posts (among one of the many other trained monkey talents he possesses).

You see, the monkey is dyslectic and jonty has a slur from freezing half his face as a child (he lost a bet involving a bucket of water on a 40 below day). Jonty doesn't speak clearly, and the monkey gets confused.... hence, the babble that we as Hype users get to read as jonty's posts.

It's the only explanation that makes sense. Nobody could be THAT stupid. :huh: :huh: :huh:

:yay:
 
hippie_hunter said:
No, I'm serious. This movie has completely changed my views on global warming.

Kinda like how Triumph of the Will completely changed your views about the Nazis?:huh:
 
War Lord said:
No, I don't know what you said is right and neither do you. Only hindsight can be 20/20.

I don't see the evidence to show our environment is really in long-term trouble. It might be in the short term, but that's ok, because time heals all wounds.


What I said was that you're ignorant for making judgements on something you haven't even seen. Hindsight doesn't really factor in.
 
Ive just saw this 10minutes ago, and I came out of the cinema worried for 2 reasons, first I didnt remember where I parked my car, and second I fear that it might be too late for us to do anything to save the planet. Plz see this movie
 

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