The Guard said:
This is not a promise to be slavishly faithful to Generation 1. From what we've read (script), they HAVE followed the mythology of the show and the comics pretty closely. Just not the CHARACTER DESIGNS. Which he never promised would be slavisly faithful.
And they have. Transformers taken mostly from G1, the Witwicky story, the Energon cube, Autobots VS Decepticons, Cybertron...do you see any dinosaurs?
Where's the "mythology" in any example you gave? Aside from Autobots vs Decepticons basis (Good Guys vs Bad Guys... that's any comic book movie). But where's The Ark? Teletran 1? Siphoning Earth natural resources for energy. It's like making X-Men and leaving out Cerebro and the whole "Human prejudice against Mutants" subplot.
The Ark in the mountain? To this day I look at places and I wonder "wow! what if a spaceship is buried under there." That's mythology! No, it's not in the movie (AFAIK).
Also, you mention Cybertron... well, Cybertron is suppossed to have been destroyed long ago in the movie. As to whether this is a misinterpretation or exaggeration I don't know (the word I heard is Destroyed not Decimated).
Also, how is "
The Energon Cube" consistent with the mythology. If you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't have mentioned it.... as there's no such thing as "
The Energon Cube" in Transformers mythology. Energon Cubes didn't do what they do in this movie. They didn't make FURBIES and any ol' thing come alive like they do in this movie. Not even
The Creation Matrix did it.
The Guard said:
THis means just this...that they are working on getting permissions for real vehicles. He does not say "I promise you Bumblebee will be a Volkswagen".
No. A lot of us understand the VW thing. That's OK. But BB didn't have to be a muscle car either. He may look cool... and many people may forgive it... but it is not faithful in the slightest. Not in the slightest!
And now that we know Jazz is shorter than Bumblebee, it makes it even more incomprehensible. This isn't "superficial" thing... this was something VERY CENTRAL to the original mythology.
The Guard said:
So he said. And so they are. Does he say anywhere "They will look exactly like they did in the show and the comics? Nope. He says "the characters will be Gen 1 Marvel and Cartoon." Read between the lines, already. He's saying they will use characters and characterizations from Gen 1 Marvel and Cartoon. Not neccessarily be slavishly faithful to their designs.
That's fine. No one wants slavishly faithful. No one wants them to be cartoony and fake looking. That doesn't mean they need to look like Bionicle.
The Guard said:
I still don't see anywhere where he promises anything. Calling him a liar for not telling you how things would turn out NOW then seems a bit childish.
Dude, this guys has been screwing with the community for quite some time.
The Guard said:
Except that he never says "This is going to be G1". He says "The characters will be G1". Translation: "This is a movie, where we will take some creative license to make things more interesting and visually exciting, but we're basing much of this off Generation 1, with some changes", which he's been pretty upfront about during the entire process. Most fans seemed to figure that out ages ago.
"Some changes" If you were to sit down and quantify that, you'd see that this movie- from what we know- has very LITTLE in common with Transformers. Sure they took some names and one plot element (the boy and his car) and they've created a totally different reimagination of it.
In and of itself, that's OK. It could very well be a good movie based on its own merits. But, it's not Transformers. It's not even an updated take on it (as Spider-man or X-Men are). It's a complete reimagination of it.
