First Avenger How Long Will Cap Be Active In WWII?

[BrlntDsgse]

I was just wondering what everyone else thought would be the time span of the Cap movie considering that it starts with his origin, and presumably ends with him being frozen. In the comic continuity he was active as Cap for a few years and already a beloved living legend by the time he was frozen. But how will the movie treat this? Will he only be active in battle as Cap for only a few months tops, becoming at best a kind of "urban legend" among soldiers? Will the movie take place over a longer span of time, possibly using subtitles or exposition through dialogue to convey "six months later", "one year later", etc...? I'd like for Cap to be an established hero by the time he's frozen and for the Red Skull to be shown as his ARCH-FOE not just "this bad guy he fought once in WWII". But then again, I do wonder if a longer time span might make the movie feel too clunky or drawn-out. Maybe if they go through the origin,training,USO show, and Cap goes AWOL and joins battle scenes and then just make one jump in time to a few years later for the rest of the film it could work better than scenes constatly taking place months apart. Any thoughts?

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I think since he's only going to be in Europe, he'll be there when the allied land.

So 44-45

 

[Webhead2006]

well since joe has stated we are starting off around 41/42 for film and the war went on to what was it 45/46 i see the film probably spanding a few yrs.

 

[Young Superman]

From 1942, when Steve becomes Cap until 1945, when he gets frozen.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea i am sure thats how it will go. Spaning a few yrs would be good for the second half of the film and have a good reason for the invaders and all that.

 

[Danalys]

i'd rather we see him in the ice at the end but we don't see or hear how he got frozen. so in sequels you'd have to wonder is this the one where he gets frozen. there could also be a nice contrast between a victory in WWII and him being in ice in the present. in the film where he actually does get frozen that could happen half way through and then we go to defrosted cap doing stuff in the modern day related to those events, some unfinished personal business he doesn't want the avengers along for.

 

[JAK®]

I think the route they will take is that he will only do one mission (what we see in the movie) that ends up with him presumed dead (frozen) but he will have proven himself to be such a hero in that one mission he will have become a legend.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Well if they want more sequels to be period pieces, we need at least six months to a year of M.I.A or just unrecorded involvement in the war.

 

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

Well if they want sequels I would imagine his direct actions would not bring an end to the war. So I don't see how they would proceed with that.

 

[KangConquers]

Well if they want sequels I would imagine his direct actions would not bring an end to the war. So I don't see how they would proceed with that.

Sequels are almost guaranteed to take place in the modern age.

Of Captain America's 630 or so comics, only 78 take place in the golden age. The rest are modern.

 

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

Sequels are almost guaranteed to take place in the modern age.

Of Captain America's 630 or so comics, only 78 take place in the golden age. The rest are modern.

I wasn't thinking about that. I figured modern times=Avengers. That's cool. That could have lots of cameos too!

 

[KangConquers]

I wasn't thinking about that. I figured modern times=Avengers. That's cool. That could have lots of cameos too!

I think (and hope) once he's thawed, he's thawed. I don't want any period pieces after First Avenger, since most of his supporting cast (Sharon Carter, Falcon) and some of his best enemies (Crossbones) are modern characters.

A lot of people don't realize that Cap has just as rich of a solo history as Spider-Man. Just because people haven't been made aware of all the storylines the way they have with X-Men and Spidey through animated series, doesn't mean there aren't tons of potentially awesome sequels to be made in modern times. and not just the Winter Soldier (which imo shouldn't happen until at least the third film, maybe beyond.)

 

[afan]

....sorry for dredging up the USO again....but.....it is IMO germain to this thread's topic.

Assuming dates in the film will be, WWII and Captain America lore, accurate.

Rogers is transformed in 1941, and then is assigned to the USO stint mentioned. Does he then appear in the USO for 3 years before the AWOL opportunity finally gives him a chance to get in the war?

I dare say, unless the film is gonna rewrite WWII and Cap's history, that the majority of Steve Rogers' USO career will happen stateside, or perhaps England as there is no European theater until after June 6th 1944....D Day.

Doesn't the geography involved then make the AWOL angle seem to dictate his active combat presence? If in the states; where exactly does he go AWOL, Peoria? Even if he is performing in Engalnd, prior to D-Day, where he's closer to Europe, and he goes AWOL, where does he go? How does he get there? Does he slip into Europe somehow? How does he become a legend among the troops when there are no troops there yet to witness him?

So if his troupe of performers gets to Europe some time after D-Day mid 1944, and he immediately goes AWOL, that would give him 1 year in combat before the end of the war.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I think (and hope) once he's thawed, he's thawed. I don't want any period pieces after First Avenger, since most of his supporting cast (Sharon Carter, Falcon) and some of his best enemies (Crossbones) are modern characters.

A lot of people don't realize that Cap has just as rich of a solo history as Spider-Man. Just because people haven't been made aware of all the storylines the way they have with X-Men and Spidey through animated series, doesn't mean there aren't tons of potentially awesome sequels to be made in modern times. and not just the Winter Soldier (which imo shouldn't happen until at least the third film, maybe beyond.)

Eh... don't see it. I think all modern day movies will be Avengers movies more or less. Maybe some spinoffs but still, I don't think we'll see a Cap movie without Hawkeye, Pyms, Black Widow, or the SHIELD heavily involved. Once you start introducing other staple Avengers, it's basically an Avengers movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

He'll prob only be active like 3 years.

I have to agree with those saying this is our only Cap in WWII film. Why come back to this era when he is thawed? Most of his comics are him in modern times, and we'll have already seen him fight his greatest foe of that era and what happened at the end of WWII for him. Don't need to fill in any more gaps than that. It becomes redundant.

 

[KangConquers]

Eh... don't see it. I think all modern day movies will be Avengers movies more or less. Maybe some spinoffs but still, I don't think we'll see a Cap movie without Hawkeye, Pyms, Black Widow, or the SHIELD heavily involved. Once you start introducing other staple Avengers, it's basically an Avengers movie.

This is the most ridiculous thing you've ever posted. Captain America needs to be modern age, through and through. That's where all his best stories take place.

The man out of time element can't really be explored in Avengers movies. You need to give him a film of his own to work in. Sharon Carter is as important to Cap as Mary Jane is to Spider-Man. Why in the hell is that not worth exploring to you!?!?!?

 

[Webhead2006]

well since we know that we are probably covering a couple yrs of the war 42-45 for the film. And we are getting a modern bookend. i am sure we are going to see him frozen at the climax of the film. Then end scene/post scene we see him found in present day 2011 and all that.

 

[KangConquers]

For the record, Cap took the serum in 1940 and went on two years worth of covert operations before America actually entered the war.

Given Cap was born July 4, 1922...he would've taken the serum no earlier than that date in 1940, and was frozen right before WW2 ended....I've actually heard the date given as April 17, 1945 for the day Cap got frozen.

There is very little material in the comics worth exploring in terms of a period piece; one movie tops. However, there are a good 3-5 sequels worthy of gracing the big screen from the modern material.

Doing Captain America 2 in WW2 would be suicide for the franchise; get all of the period piece stuff done in First Avenger, and then only flashback to it.

 

[FaT_tONle]

This is the most ridiculous thing you've ever posted. Captain America needs to be modern age, through and through. That's where all his best stories take place.

The man out of time element can't really be explored in Avengers movies. You need to give him a film of his own to work in. Sharon Carter is as important to Cap as Mary Jane is to Spider-Man. Why in the hell is that not worth exploring to you!?!?!?

Maybe a story of Cap coming to reality and losing touch with the modern day as he gets older, but I don't see a modern day trilogy. Say what you want about the 9 movies, I doubt it will come to that. I think one solo movie after Avengers, 2014ish could cover that recovery period if they even bother. Other than that I just see Avengers movies for the next 6-7 years. I'll be suprised if Thor gets a sequel unless of course it does stellar numbers, and the same for Cap. It will come down to money and reception.

 

[KangConquers]

Maybe a story of Cap coming to reality and losing touch with the modern day as he gets older, but I don't see a modern day trilogy. Say what you want about the 9 movies, I doubt it will come to that. I think one solo movie after Avengers, 2014ish could cover that recovery period if they even bother. Other than that I just see Avengers movies for the next 6-7 years. I'll be suprised if Thor gets a sequel unless of course it does stellar numbers, and the same for Cap. It will come down to money and reception.

Basically it's impossible to gauge until after we have the b.o. figures. Both are deserving of sequels and have a deep canon full of compelling possibilities.

 

[marcvader]

Although I'm happy the first Cap movie covers his origin in WWII, I want to see modern day solo movies. I mean his comics are modern day so why would it be contrary to that? I want to see the cosmic cube as well as Falcon and you know we would get plenty of Fury and SHIELD as well.

 

[KangConquers]

Although I'm happy the first Cap movie covers his origin in WWII, I want to see modern day solo movies. I mean his comics are modern day so why would it be contrary to that? I want to see the cosmic cube as well as Falcon and you know we would get plenty of Fury and SHIELD as well.

Exactly. To me a large part of what makes Captain America interesting is when he finds himself at odds with what America stands for, and tries to juggle being true to himself with his job as Captain America.

There are several excellent stories like The Secret Empire that are worth exploring on the big screen.

 

[Danalys]

Although I'm happy the first Cap movie covers his origin in WWII, I want to see modern day solo movies. I mean his comics are modern day so why would it be contrary to that? I want to see the cosmic cube as well as Falcon and you know we would get plenty of Fury and SHIELD as well.

the thing is they can always do modern setting ones later. there's only the one opportunity to allow more set in the past.

 

[Rich Santoro]

I would like to see his WWII era story start off wth him hearing the "Day of Infamy" speech in '41, then go through project rebirth and make his way to active duty in '42/'43... get frozen in '45 shortly after Hitler's suicide (in taking down the Skull while he tries a last ditch effort to fullfill one last plan to destroy the Allies).

 

[Webhead2006]

totally we have no clue how thor or cap will do in BO figures yet since we are a yr away from both being out. But with cap since we know its a ww2 picture. With as most figure climax with him getting frozen and discovered in present day. The film is more then likely going to cover from around the time US entered the war to the closing days with cap being frozen before the war ended.

As for the possible 9 picture deal. We got to remember it isnt full solo movie deal or anything. The contract is for probably standard 3 picture deal actors usually get for these types of film. Then options for appearances in avengers films and cameos in like iron man 3, sequel to thor, or antman, doc strange, black panther, etc.... characters that are under the marvel studios film banner.