The only thing that was slightly safe in theory was giving the X-men Black leather costumes ..ala the matrix, yet it wasn't safe because a good chunk of fans immediately slammed that as well....again not a safe choice by no means
Nevermind that they look nothing like The Matrix.
You simply cannot compare the films because they were different circumstances.
Oh, you can compare them, but you kind of have to do so fairly. Most people aren't. LORD OF THE RINGS made ENORMOUS changes to characters, story, etc. From a single source, where, as you said, the X-Men franchise has drawn from 40 years of comics.
Mystique, Kurt and Rogue were altogether in the movie and absolutely nothing suggested that they were related. There should’ve been some hints. Both of Mystique’s kids are right infront of her and she doesn’t even glance at them. Lol, she looks more interested in Logan.
Who says they aren't her kids, and she just doesn't know? It's entirely possible that Kurt wasn't born a demonic looking thing with blue skin.(mutation has its onset at puberty according to the films). Maybe she really doesn't know they're her children. The possibility certainly exists.
LOTR had the advantage of Peter Jackson, a director who put respect and fidelity for the source material first. The LOTR series easily destroys the X-Men movies.
Let's be honest with ourselves. In many ways, THE LORD OF THE RINGS destroys the concept X-Men's various stories to begin with. There's a reason it's considered the premiere fantasy work.
The LOTR movies had tons of changes that fans of the book were furious about: taking out Tom Bombadil, having the elves show up at Helm's Deep, turning Faramir into a villian for part of 'Two Towers', taking Saruman out of the theatrical release of 'Return of the King', and leaving out the scouring of the Shire at the end of ROTK.
Exactly. And none of the stars of THE LORD OF THE RINGS jumped ship to THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA.
But we are calling for the story to be at least moderately respectful of the source material.
It has been.
X3 is mutilating the source material, not condensing it or adapting it.
No, it's mutilating Cyclops/Jean's story. The rest seems pretty faithful as far as story/mythos essence goes.
The characters are practically unrecognizable in many cases, from Rogue (completely different), Bobby (completely different), Pyro (completely different), Juggernaut (completely different), Wolverine (hugely different), Cyclops (killed and ignored) etc.
It's been that way for 2 films. This is hardly something X3 is doing on its own. How are Wolverine and Juggernaut completely different than their comic book counterparts?
And above all we have the Phoenix saga, except its a minor sublot in a completely different storyline with Wolverine replacing Cyclops. Thats about as disrespectful as it gets
Do you like SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE? BATMAN BEGINS? Any other comic book movies?
its akin to making Lex Luthor a minor henchman in a Superman movie
I believe this happened in SUPERMAN II.
or making Magneto into Apocalypse's flunky, which they literally did in this movie with Phoenix.
She's clearly more powerful than Magneto is, and not his flunky.
That spits all over the source material.
Why? Because it's not the same?
Should LOTR have ditched lame old Sauron and made Saruman the head honcho to market to the "kewl" demographic?
Why do you people's analogies ALL suck? I mean, just, all of them. They all suck.
I was a huge fan of LOTR before the movies came out, and all I can say is the changes were MINISCULE compared to X-men.
Well lah-de-dah. One source...one writer...as compared to many sources, and hundreds of writers and artists, and 40 years of material.
The movies were extremely respectful and clearly lovingly crafted by fans, for fans. There were exactly 2 important changes, Bombadil and the Scouring, and both were done for very sensible reasons.
See, you just have now decided to define what you want to define as important, but no one else's definition of "important" matters. Classic.
But the themes have to be intact, and above all the storyline has to be given time and space. X3 is doing none of that.
Where is it written that "the storyline has to be given time and space", and what storyline are you even referring to?
Nothing is the same as the books, just about, from the effects and ideas to the major themes and characters. I mean they couldnt change more if they went out of their way to do it.
That's not true. A lot of things are kept intact from the comic book mythology. As for things being changed...duh. It's a movie. Not a comic book. Guess what? Most creative artists don't like to just rip off or directly translate the work of other artists and writers. It's not creative. And it's lazy.
Catwoman made immense changes to the source material. It had a ton of dissenters. AND it was a terrible movie, pure Hollywood empty product.
CATWOMAN wasn't bad because it made changes to the mythos. It was bad because it was POORLY WRITTEN, POORLY ACTED, and not impressively directed. There's a difference to making changes to something, and writing a ****ty script based on a stupid, derivative concept.
was better than Charlies Angels?
..OMG!. the first one was meh...but the second sucked SERIOUS ass!.....
