If Superman Returns was a huge hit, would that be a good thing or a bad thing?

[Superark]

This thread feels like it belongs in the SR section. Man we need some news

 

[BestGirl]

has anybody 'ever' seen the Millar script/pitch?

the love-child is the most problematic for me.. it would be horrible for him to die.. or perhaps worse for a One More Day reboot by Jor-El..

Are you talking about how some people wanted Jason to be killed in the sequel? Yeah, that would never fly in a Superman movie.

 

[wellsy]

After BB there was an interest in a sequel, especially after the DvD was released, and not just here either, but in the public as well. Otherwise, TDK wouldnt have happened.

We didnt, and arent, seeing that with SR. If we had of, we would be anticipating a sequel right now with or without Singer.

This is precisely what I mean MP. It wasn't expressed too well in my post, but that was exactly it. There was buzz for a sequel to TDK. There was none for SR.

That doesn't dampen my enjoyment of the film. But I don't speak for others. Much as I would like a sequel, most people just don't care. Those for and against are overwhelming minorities.

We aren't the community. We're not the GA. We're people with enough time on their hands to go on and on about a movie 3 years after its release. It's the GA and the water-cooler conversation that is the real determinant. TIH failed to set alight the GA, and yet the fan community was generally quite enamoured by it.

Don't overinflate our importance MP. We are but a very small, though very active minority of the studio's target audience.

Sorry for the OT post, but sometimes, I think we need reminding.

 

[dark_b]

This is precisely what I mean MP. It wasn't expressed too well in my post, but that was exactly it. There was buzz for a sequel to TDK. There was none for SR.

That doesn't dampen my enjoyment of the film. But I don't speak for others. Much as I would like a sequel, most people just don't care. Those for and against are overwhelming minorities.

We aren't the community. We're not the GA. We're people with enough time on their hands to go on and on about a movie 3 years after its release. It's the GA and the water-cooler conversation that is the real determinant. TIH failed to set alight the GA, and yet the fan community was generally quite enamoured by it.

Don't overinflate our importance MP. We are but a very small, though very active minority of the studio's target audience.

Sorry for the OT post, but sometimes, I think we need reminding.

with all due respect. its 3 years after SR. and there was no official news for a sequel for 2 years now.
i remember that people wanted in 2006 and 2007 a sequel. now of course its quiet.

 

[GreenKToo]

A sequel is most likely out. I'm looking toward a reboot 3 or 4 yrs from now.
If its sooner than that, then great.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea as others have said the longer there is no news, and when horn is gone from WB doing a direct sequel and having routh back for those who liked him has a less likely chance from happening. I would love if wb can get things straight within all the heads and what not and get a new film rolling in 2-3yrs but i wouldnt be surprised if we have to wait another 5-7 yrs with them.

 

[GreenKToo]

Hollywood is a fickle place. A guy could walk in tomorrow with a pitch they love and *BAM* it could be on, or it could be years from now before we know diddly squat.

 

[dark_b]

Hollywood is a fickle place. A guy could walk in tomorrow with a pitch they love and *BAM* it could be on, or it could be years from now before we know diddly squat.

i think you are right.

i think the worst that could happen is that in 4 o r5 years WB has no tentpole movie and they throw out a rushed superman movie. but i guess things changed at WB?

they spend time on batman and they are trying with GL. but it scares me that Jamie said that he thinks that it maybe will not happen(i dont know the exact quote).

 

[stargazer]

This is what Superman fans get for complaining Soo much. No movie at all.

WB probably don't know what to do to satisfy such demanding and skeptical fanbase, so they don't do anything.

They probably think, "Meh, they at at least have the exciting Smallville show to watch for a while"..

 

[Nightwing1983]

This is what Superman fans get for complaining Soo much. No movie at all.

WB probably don't know what to do to satisfy such demanding and skeptical fanbase, so they don't do anything.

They probably think, "Meh, they at at least have the exciting Smallville show to watch for a while"..

I think you're absolutely right; but as far as I'm concerned, it's still better than if they'd made a sequel to Superman Returns.

 

[stargazer]

I think you're absolutely right; but as far as I'm concerned, it's still better than if they'd made a sequel to Superman Returns.

Well, I disagree with that.

An action-packed sequel would have worked just fine, IMO.

 

[SuperDaniel]

I'd rather wait 10 years than have a sequel to SR or another ****** movie.

 

[dark_b]

This is what Superman fans get for complaining Soo much. No movie at all.

WB probably don't know what to do to satisfy such demanding and skeptical fanbase, so they don't do anything.

They probably think, "Meh, they at at least have the exciting Smallville show to watch for a while"..

please you can not be serious. that WB wouldnt make a superman movie because of the fans? because we complained ?

and why did you mentione smallville? really?

 

[Showtime]

This is what Superman fans get for complaining Soo much. No movie at all.

WB probably don't know what to do to satisfy such demanding and skeptical fanbase, so they don't do anything.

They probably think, "Meh, they at at least have the exciting Smallville show to watch for a while"..

No and no.

WB wants to get this one right because there is a lot of money and jobs on the line.

Fans shouldn't settle, they should always want more and something bigger and better. Whether it had been a sequel or a reboot, we should all be demanding as close to perfection as possible or else what is the point of being a fan?

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

has anybody 'ever' seen the Millar script/pitch?

Millar has told any-and-every one with a set of ears (on multiple occasions including this one) about his Superman film trilogy that was so amazing and mind-bogglingly incredible that WB won't touch it with a 10 ft. pole.

This is what Superman fans get for complaining Soo much. No movie at all.

WB probably don't know what to do to satisfy such demanding and skeptical fanbase, so they don't do anything.

They probably think, "Meh, they at at least have the exciting Smallville show to watch for a while"..

Ok, folks. It's not about trying to "unite" the hard-core fanbase because they frankly don't matter. Most of those irate moron fan-boys who claim they'll refuse to see the film if Welling isn't Superman, Routh doesn't return, etc. are full of ****. They'll go see it.

WB, Sony & Co. went out of their way to garner "nerd cred" for Terminator: Salvation and it meant absolutely dick. The film failed at the box-office. And don't give me this "Oh, but the foreign numbers will save it!" excuse. On the other hand, Paramount, Abrams & Co. made it a point to make Star Trek something that played to everyone (i.e. young, old, fans, non-fans, etc.) and they succeeded in spades.

As long as they make a Superman film that the general public will flock to see, they're good to go.

^What that dude said...

 

[dark_b]

you talked what you would like in a sequel to TDK on the podcast thinkmcflythink.
will you do one with superman? would be interesting to see what you want.

maybe add some new inside info he he he

 

[mego joe]

I think you're absolutely right; but as far as I'm concerned, it's still better than if they'd made a sequel to Superman Returns.

We'd be even better off if they'd never have made Superman Returns.

 

[dark_b]

We'd be even better off if they'd never have made Superman Returns.

arent they saying that we should not ignroe the past? but learn from it?
what happened in the past should people help to understand better the future and not make the same mistakes.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

arent they saying that we should not ignroe the past? but learn from it?
what happened in the past should people help to understand better the future and not make the same mistakes.

Usually I'd agree with that saying but not in this case.

 

[GreenKToo]

you talked what you would like in a sequel to TDK on the podcast thinkmcflythink.
will you do one with superman? would be interesting to see what you want.

maybe add some new inside info he he he

I'd love to hear it as well. I think most of us want to see the same thing. A superman film with a supervillain, knockdown drag out fight(s), buildings collapseing from the impacts, half of Metropolis in ruins, and of course a good story, but that goes without saying.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

This is what Superman fans get for complaining Soo much. No movie at all.

WB probably don't know what to do to satisfy such demanding and skeptical fanbase, so they don't do anything.

They probably think, "Meh, they at at least have the exciting Smallville show to watch for a while"..

You honestly think WB cares all that much about the fans...

They want money and a strong franchise... nothing else... They could have Superman brutally murder Lois in the movies and if it made enough money, they wouldn't give a damn what you or the fan community thought.*

DC Comics is the only lease for Warner Bros.

*Disclaimer: May be slightly exaggerated!

 

[Nightwing1983]

You honestly think WB cares all that much about the fans...

They want money and a strong franchise... nothing else... They could have Superman brutally murder Lois in the movies and if it made enough money, they wouldn't give a damn what you or the fan community thought.*

DC Comics is the only lease for Warner Bros.

*Disclaimer: May be slightly exaggerated!

Well that's at the crux of this problem. The question is, at the end of the day, how much we care if they make money; and what we're willing to accept as changes to the character.

 

[DChero]

What they are probably getting, for the most part, is that hardcore fans want as little altered as possible from source material. Bringing in someone that has a grand plan to take the character "to the next level" probably would offend as much as they satisfy.

I'm all for a sequel, but I'm not so close-minded as to protest a fresh start. In the end, we all want a great Superman movie.

 

[Sam]

This is what Superman fans get for complaining Soo much. No movie at all.

WB probably don't know what to do to satisfy such demanding and skeptical fanbase, so they don't do anything.

They probably think, "Meh, they at at least have the exciting Smallville show to watch for a while"..

Sure, lets blame fans for bad decisions took by an incompetent company!

Yay!

 

[Nightwing1983]

What they are probably getting, for the most part, is that hardcore fans want as little altered as possible from source material. Bringing in someone that has a grand plan to take the character "to the next level" probably would offend as much as they satisfy.

I'm all for a sequel, but I'm not so close-minded as to protest a fresh start. In the end, we all want a great Superman movie.

The only thing I'm closed-minded enough to protest is a direct sequel to Superman Returns. But if they make it, there's not much I can do. I can sit here and play Warners Exec or Screenwriter; but it ain't gonna happen, so I might as well sit back an accept that if it happens.