If Time Travel Was to Ever be Discovered...

[piccolo]

If there were no ripple effect....then that would mean that what is fated to happen will happen....so he can't change who is to win the world series, because the winner of it is always fated to win it. IF...as you said above, he is able to change an event...then time is not set but fluid, so it ripples and changes other events.

There would be a ripple effect from assassinating Hitler. Not from things like betting on sports teams or eating at five guys. He could do plenty of things with his time-knowledge that would not have an active effect on the world as we know it. Him merely going through the action of traveling through time isn't going to change things.

Also: why is this guy trying to prove he's a time traveler in the first place?

 

[Wiseman]

There would be a ripple effect from assassinating Hitler. Not from things like betting on sports teams or eating at five guys. He could do plenty of things with his time-knowledge that would not have an active effect on the world as we know it. Him merely going through the action of traveling through time isn't going to change things.

Also: why is this guy trying to prove he's a time traveler in the first place?

There is a ripple effect on everything. Let's say he gets a burger from a place, well then he just upset the chain of events of that entire day because he wasn't supposed to be in that spot at that time. What if someone had to wait another 2 minutes to get their burger because they were after him, then that person was late to getting somewhere, never met the girl he was going to accidentally run into, they never have a kid together, and that kid never grows up to be a serial killer, or a president, or a famous inventor. That changes everything in the future

 

[piccolo]

There is a ripple effect on everything. Let's say he gets a burger from a place, well then he just upset the chain of events of that entire day because he wasn't supposed to be in that spot at that time. What if someone had to wait another 2 minutes to get their burger because they were after him, then that person was late to getting somewhere, never met the girl he was going to accidentally run into, they never have a kid together, and that kid never grows up to be a serial killer, or a president, or a famous inventor. That changes everything in the future

Whoa.

 

[Victarion]

I heard someone suggest that these UFO sightings might well be time travelers. I never really bought into it, but its something to think about.

 

[C. Lee]

There is a ripple effect on everything. Let's say he gets a burger from a place, well then he just upset the chain of events of that entire day because he wasn't supposed to be in that spot at that time. What if someone had to wait another 2 minutes to get their burger because they were after him, then that person was late to getting somewhere, never met the girl he was going to accidentally run into, they never have a kid together, and that kid never grows up to be a serial killer, or a president, or a famous inventor. That changes everything in the future

Right...I was about to write a similar scenerio....good job.

I heard someone suggest that these UFO sightings might well be time travelers.

That was me on the second page.

 

[Victarion]

Actually, my dad suggested it. I guess its a popular theory.

 

[piccolo]

My world has just been rocked.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

Our solar system as well as the rest of the galaxy and universe are in constant motion. We are on Earth, which is travelling around our sun. But our sun isn't just sitting still in the universe. Our entire galaxy is moving as a whole in one general direction....while all of the bits and pieces in it are also traveling in orbit around their individual stars or planets.

Yay a fellow science channel geek

 

[Shemtov]

Wouldn't we already have encountered time travelers by now?



Also, are you of the opinion that a time traveler going back and affecting the past would create a divergent timeline, or alter the present one?

I don't beleive in changing time. I beleive that any repercussions are alraedy being felt. If one goes back they have alradey gonr back. in otherwords, time is solid, not fluid.


I once came up with this idea..... called Time Tourists. What if Tourists from the future are here, merged with the natives? What if they are scattered all over the time strea,? It would be a lucrative business, and probably the first application used (because it would earn the inventor the most money).

 

[Spider-Fan83]

I heard someone suggest that these UFO sightings might well be time travelers. I never really bought into it, but its something to think about.

That was me on the second page.

Actually, my dad suggested it. I guess its a popular theory.

good to hear others have thought about this
cause it always been a theory of mine as well

ofcourse based on the descriptions that people give of so called "aliens" it would seem that these time travelers are from thousands maybe even millions of years into the future

 

[JRPJCDJC]

Wouldn't we already have encountered time travelers by now?



Also, are you of the opinion that a time traveler going back and affecting the past would create a divergent timeline, or alter the present one?

Was talking about Terminator 2 with a few peeps and my mind became blown.

Time travel has been discovered. It just hasn't been precisely discovered how it works.

Basically, I am of the opinion that once you begin using the machine you are in a completely different dimension of your own. You change something in the past, it effects the present and your future of the past you changed - it does NOT effect the dimension you and your 'time machine' are in. If you are the one using the 'time machine' then everything is in relation to you. You are basically tinkering with your own life and making it how you want it to be. Once you get it how you want you can simply merge back in and pick up where you want. You could go into the past and kill yourself as a child but you would not cease to exist in the dimension you and the time machine are in because it would still be possible for you to go further into the past and stop your time travelling self from killing your child self.

It is my belief that the 'time machine' is not only capable of time travel but also grants the user the ability to stop aging, or regress in age, and many other intresting little functions.

'Time Machine' really is a deceptive term for a 'time machine' is simply a clock or watch. I think what your talking about is a 'Life Controller.'

Unfortunately, I think the only way you can get a 'Life Controller' is if you do something really, really bad and all steps of the apocalypse trace back to you. That's basically it. The only way to get it is become the anti-christ. Once there is confirmation that actions upon your part caused the apocalypse, time-travelers from the future will pay you a visit and basically tell you to 'FIX IT NOW!' and then it begins. Or something like that is the only way to get one of those. I've already made plans to destroy earth so I'm sure I'll be getting mine soon enough.

 

[piccolo]

Time travel has been discovered. It just hasn't been discovered how it works.

Basically, I am of the opinion that once you begin using the machine you are in a completely different dimension of your own. You change something in the past, it effects the present and your future of the past you changed - it does NOT effect the dimension you and your 'time machine' are in. If you are the one using the 'time machine' then everything is in relation to you. You are basically tinkering with your own life and making it how you want it to be. Once you get it how you want you can simply merge back in and pick up where you want. You could go into the past and kill yourself as a child but you would not cease to exist in the dimension you and the time machine are in because it would still be possible for you to go further into the past and stop your time travelling self from killing your child self.

It is my belief that the 'time machine' is not only capable of time travel but also grants the user the ability to stop aging, or regress in age, and many other intresting little functions.

'Time Machine' really is a deceptive term for a 'time machine' is simply a clock or watch. I think what your talking about is a 'Life Controller.'

Unfortunately, I think the only way you can get a 'Life Controller' is if you do something really, really bad and all steps of the apocalypse trace back to you. That's basically it. The only way to get it is become the anti-christ.

Sweet analysis. I like.

What if someone went back in time, and through a ripple effect prevented time machines from ever being invented?

 

[Sawyer]

Wouldn't we already have encountered time travelers by now?



Also, are you of the opinion that a time traveler going back and affecting the past would create a divergent timeline, or alter the present one?

Was talking about Terminator 2 with a few peeps and my mind became blown.

Well, it's not like they're going to wear giant neon signs saying "HI, I'M A TIME TRAVELLER!"

I'm going with the LOST time travel. Whatever happened, happened. If someone travels back in time and has an effect on certain events, they were always meant to be there. No change.

 

[JRPJCDJC]

Sweet analysis. I like.

What if someone went back in time, and through a ripple effect prevented time machines from ever being invented?

Again, you'd be in a different dimension or something like that. So, if someone else went back in time and commited an action to stop time machines from existing, then time machines would stop existing in the past, present, and future of the time line he commited the offense in but not forever, time travel can only be stopped temporarily and most intelligent time travellers probably know it's a futile, pointless effort to try and stop it. Time travel cannot be destroyed unless someone is willing to forever stop mankind from evolvingl. Eventually, under all scenarios - mankind invents the 'time machine.' IT CANNOT BE STOPPED! TIME TRAVEL IS ETERNAL and once you learn how to do it you will be too. Even if you get killed somewhere, your fellow 'time traveler's' will eventually get around to going back in time and making sure you don't get killed. Of course, i imagine if you get killed and have to have attention given to you then your device will probably be taken away and you'll probably have your mind wiped and be sennt back here. The hardest part is probably getting the damn thing.

Even if someone destroyed the earth, a group of other time travellers with devices would just have to pinpoint on that persons dimensional frequency, go to the past of it, stop him from destroying the earth and take his or hers device away.

You get your hands on one of these things and your on your way to becoming a real life intergalactic superhero.

How do I know it exists? Because man, I just laid some ground work for it right here.

 

[Carcharodon]

See this is where I have small problem. How can we travel forward if it has not happened yet? Bear with me. In order to travelf forward it would mean that the world is on a predesitined course of action that we have yet to make or do or play whatever part our role in the furture will be.

When you travel at or near the speed of light, time slows for you. Let's say you're in a spaceship capable of such a speed. If you were to look out the "window," and you were able to see the world around you, it would be moving incredibly fast.

You would also, as a result, age MUCH more slowly. This is the basis for the idea he put forth. You're not "skipping" time. Time, for you, happens to be going MUCH more slowly than it is for the rest of the universe/world. All of the events that will occur, occur, between the time that you begin your light-speed travel and the time you stop.

This principle is well-established in the field of theoretical physics. In fact, it was a part of the curriculum when I took basic Physics in college.

 

[The Spawn]

http://www.livescience.com/technology/070307_time_travel.html

Read.

 

[Sawyer]

http://www.livescience.com/technology/070307_time_travel.html

Read.

Pshh... like I believe what "scientists" say.

 

[JRPJCDJC]

There would be a ripple effect from assassinating Hitler. Not from things like betting on sports teams or eating at five guys. He could do plenty of things with his time-knowledge that would not have an active effect on the world as we know it. Him merely going through the action of traveling through time isn't going to change things.

Also: why is this guy trying to prove he's a time traveler in the first place?

If you have one of these devices you COULD assassinate Hitler, go back to your present and live in that world. Of course, if you don't like the ripple effect then you can go back and change something else. It's probably like a drug, once you start changing things you can't stop. The real fun probably begins when another time traveller changes something after you assassinated Hitler and you don't know that the actions of the other time traveler are what are causing the undesireable effects on your situation, not the assasination of Hitler.

I imagine, something like assassinating Hitler won't be as easy as you think. For one, you'd have to get into the position to do it. Secondly, there are probably rules once given such a device and those rules probably involve NOT being able to take action that will effect the history books. Those events are probably large scale assaults by some type of 'time travelers' federation. You do something like that on your own and your ass is in big time trouble. I'm talking being locked away for a dozen centuries in a hole in the middle of Alpha Centauri with no chance of parole.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Eh, this gets too deep into that time paradox that we may never be able to fully figure out, whether we're capable of time travel or not.

 

[Spyder07]

If time travel was real I'd go back in time to save Carcharodon from being sacrificed by me because he doesnt "agree" with my yoshi theory.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

I really see you getting banned. Soon.

 

[Carcharodon]

If time travel was real I'd go back in time to save Carcharodon from being sacrificed by me because he doesnt "agree" with my yoshi theory.

Technically, we're all traveling through time right now.

 

[The Spawn]

The grandfather paradox is a proposed paradox of time travel, first described by the science fiction writer René Barjavel in his 1943 book Le Voyageur Imprudent (The Imprudent Traveller). The paradox is this: suppose a man traveled back in time and killed his biological grandfather before the latter met the traveler's grandmother. As a result, one of the traveler's parents (and by extension, the traveller himself) would never have been conceived. This would imply that he could not have travelled back in time after all, which in turn implies the grandfather would still be alive, and the traveller would have been conceived, allowing him to travel back in time and kill his grandfather. Thus each possibility seems to imply its own negation, a type of logical paradox.

An equivalent paradox is known (in philosophy) as autoinfanticide—that is, going back in time and killing oneself as a baby—though when the word was first coined in a paper by Paul Horwich he used the term autofanticide.

The grandfather paradox has been used to argue that backwards time travel must be impossible. However, a number of possible ways of avoiding the paradox have been proposed, such as the idea that the timeline is fixed and unchangeable, or the idea that the time traveler will end up in a parallel timeline, while the timeline in which the traveler was born remains independent.


No?

 

[JRPJCDJC]

I don't beleive in changing time. I beleive that any repercussions are alraedy being felt. If one goes back they have alradey gonr back. in otherwords, time is solid, not fluid.


I once came up with this idea..... called Time Tourists. What if Tourists from the future are here, merged with the natives? What if they are scattered all over the time strea,? It would be a lucrative business, and probably the first application used (because it would earn the inventor the most money).

'Time traveling' is not for tourists, that's why you can't do it.

The reason our world doesn't change in an instant due to the actions of time travelers is because THEY ARE NOT PERMITTED TO CHANGE THE HISTORY BOOKS! Even if some rogue time traveler does something to accomplish such a feat the other time travelers can simply go back and stop him from ever doing it, we'd never know if someone did go back and kill Hitler.

I'm not even sure is allowable in accordance with universal laws for one to use such a device for personal use. Even if it is, they could only be allowed to use it to change their life and their life alone.

Time travel isn't all it's cracked up to be.

 

[Carcharodon]

I'm not even sure is allowable in accordance with universal laws for one to use such a device for personal use. Even if it is, they could only be allowed to use it to change their life and their life alone.

Which is impossible unless said person has never had contact with another human being or with anything affecting another human being.

Time travel isn't all it's cracked up to be.

I'm pretty much an advocate for science to pursue just about anything within ethical constraints. Time travel isn't one of the pursuits I so strongly endorse...