Are IQ tests valid. I have a fairly high score myself (138). I'm good at writing and presenting an argument in papers, however a girl once told me "wow you sound really smart" and I told her "I'm not smart, I just know how to make dumb sh-- sound intelligent". Then recently I was trying to figure out how high an IQ Socrates would have; whether he would do well on the test. My first and initial answer was yes of course he is the "Father of Modern Thought", but as I thought about it a lot of the rhetoricians Socrates "owned" would also have high IQs. In addition Socrates never followed tradition logic, he would convolute traditional logic in fact by confusing people one what they thought was conventional and what they thought was nature. So perhaps he would have a low score, or even in a more Socratic fashion show the failure of the test in taking it. So they're are two sides to this coin. One is that the test is a reasonable gauge of intelligence. The other says that not only is it faulty but it is a test of only a certain type of logic as constrained by its creators.