Is MAX always out of 616 continuity?

[Bubonic]

I know that some of the titles are obviously removed from the 616, but is that some sort of rule?

The difference between Marvel and MAX doesn't seem as pronounced to me as the difference between DC and Vertigo.

I was wondering if stories like The Hood, Cage, Shang-Chi, Terror Inc., or Foolkiller were exclusively MAX stories, or are some of them simply meant to be a 616 story with more edge then Marvel can allow?

 

[Blader5489]

No, "Marvel Knights" is the brand for out-of-continuity stories. MAX is in-continuity, as evidenced by stuff like Alias and The Hood.

 

[Bubonic]

So with the exception of Punisher MAX, everything else is in-continuity.
Marvel Knights rock, I loved the Spider-Man run.
I guess Marvel Adventures is also out of continuity.

 

[Brainiac 8]

But, Marvel Knight's wasn't always out of continuity either, proof being Gargan/Venom.

My guess is that it's just up to Marvel as to what they want to be in continuity or not.

 

[Anubis]

Actually, only some stuff is in continuity and some isn't. For instance, Chuck Austin's War machine, and Eternals mini's were out of continuity. As was that Luke Cage and Nick Fury stuff. But Alias, and Max Punisher is in continuity. As was a few others. Much like DC's Vertigo line.

 

[Brainiac 8]

I wish Marvel would streamline their in continuity stuff more, since it would save people having to ask these questions and be confused.

 

[Bubonic]

How can Punisher MAX be in-continuity? He lives in a world without Capes as far as I can tell.

Or did you mean the other way around?

 

[Anubis]

Just because you don't see any capes doesn't mean there aren't any. The fact that Nick Fury was in it shows you it was the same MU. The worlds a big place, Spidey and DD can't be everywhere, and it all pretty much took place before the Civil War. Besides, they mentioned some of the stuff he did in Max Punisher during Civil War when they were wondering what he was doing for all that time he wasn't around.

 

[Brainiac 8]

See, Marvel needs to fix what's in continuity and what's not.

People can't even agree as to what is and what isn't.

 

[Bubonic]

I'll take it for granted that Anubis is probably more intune with whats happening within MAX, I was just under the impression that it was an established fact that Punisher MAX was in its own little world.

 

[Anubis]

No, Ennis Punisher fans are a fickle bunch, and like to think it's outside of the capes and such, but trust me, it's not.

 

[Bubonic]

Oh, you figure a lot of them are the comic readers with that deep seated hatred for capes and would rather not admit that one of their favourite ongoings has anything to do with the world they left behind?

Ennis does The Boys though doesn't he? Doesn't he have an anti-cape tendency to him?

 

[Blader5489]

But, Marvel Knight's wasn't always out of continuity either, proof being Gargan/Venom.

My guess is that it's just up to Marvel as to what they want to be in continuity or not.

You're right, MK used to be in-continuity, but in the last year or two, it was repurposed as an out-of-continuity brand.

 

[Anubis]

Oh, you figure a lot of them are the comic readers with that deep seated hatred for capes and would rather not admit that one of their favourite ongoings has anything to do with the world they left behind?

Ennis does The Boys though doesn't he? Doesn't he have an anti-cape tendency to him?

He's known for it. But I still enjoy all of his work.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

But, Marvel Knight's wasn't always out of continuity either, proof being Gargan/Venom.

Daredevil and Black Panther as well...

 

[storyteller]

When you got a character who highest level of fantasy is a bullet going through some guys head, its kinda hard to then place the rest of the marvel universe in that bubble of reality. Its similar to Other heroes limited bubble. Daredevil doesnt have ironman popping up his issues(has he even popped up in dd?)

 

[Anubis]

Yup. He has Spidey pop up all the time too. Lets just say it's a fantastic world, but it doesn't affect every aspect of it.

 

[wolvie2020]

The Marvel Knights line was in continuity until the Launch of Spider-Man: Reign.

According to JQ, the MK line was supposed to reflect the edgier side of the MU, but became so popular that it was integrated into the mainstream line and lost the 'Marvel Knights,' banner. (Interestingly cool when you think about it.)

Spider-Man: Reign was the 1st mini to reflect the new premise of the MK line. Out of continuity stories, (which give the writers much more freedom,) that is (generally,) aimed at an older audience, printed in a more plush format

 

[wolvie2020]

Ennis does The Boys though doesn't he? Doesn't he have an anti-cape tendency to him?

Actually, Ennis has gone on record more than a few times to say that he's not anti super hero comics, he just feels that they saturate the industry too much

 

[Anubis]

Then he has a member of a teen titans look-alike team walk around with a gerbal shoved up his bung hole.

 

[Tron Bonne]

printed in a more plush format

What's the difference between the format of a MK title and a regular title outside the cardstock cover?

 

[wolvie2020]

Then he has a member of a teen titans look-alike team walk around with a gerbal shoved up his bung hole.

That man does have a wicked sense of humour

What's the difference between the format of a MK title and a regular title outside the cardstock cover?

They give it all that gloss/thicker paper etc. and the occasional extra pages, (and more expensive colourists,) that makes them feel like the book matches the 'classier,' and more adult market they're trying to reach. (This also depends on the title.)

Supposedly that is...

 

[Anubis]

That he does.

 

[Tron Bonne]

They give it all that gloss/thicker paper etc. and the occasional extra pages, (and more expensive colourists,) that makes them feel like the book matches the 'classier,' and more adult market they're trying to reach. (This also depends on the title.)

Supposedly that is...

Oh, well, I wasn't aware of that. I got the Captain America: Chosen mini and it seemed about like the same kind of paper then the regular books I picked up at the time, I could be mistaken though. The only real difference was the cover.

I always thought it was Marvels way of just generally ripping you off an extra buck, even if it is a good product, but if the paper quality and the more expensive payload is true then I guess it's less of a rip.

 

[gildea]

Punisher max was out of continuity. The nick fury in those comics was the nick fury from ennis's own out of continuity fury mini.