James Cameron's Sequel to "AVATAR"

[Passdom]

I don't see what is condescending about pointing out facts.

He insinuated that Avatar wasn't as well liked desite its history making Box Office.

There is no factual basis for that opinion, and there is more than enough evidence to suggest the contrary.

Same with my opinion on the influences.

Im not making up stuff to back up my own opinion. My opinion is backed up by Cameron's own words.

Also, I never even mentioned critics once in my entire post.

 

[Spider-Fan]

You mentioned critics scores, so yes you did.

And you're not just pointing out "facts" you're pointing out other people's sites that gage opinions. That is not fact. Then you go on to act like you "know something" everyone doesn't based on those "facts" you spew. That is not making a factual argument. That is acting high and mighty, and when you insult people like me, I will say something. Cause that is what you're doing.

 

[Passdom]

You mentioned critics scores, so yes you did.

And you're not just pointing out "facts" you're pointing out other people's sites that gage opinions. That is not fact. Then you go on to act like you "know something" everyone doesn't based on those "facts" you spew. That is not making a factual argument. That is acting high and mighty, and when you insult people like me, I will say something. Cause that is what you're doing.

Those aren't critics scores.

Those are audience scores, as he was arguing that Avatars amazing Box Office doesn't necessarily correlate to being very well received by audiences.

It obviously doesn't have to correlate. (see TF2)

But in this case, it does.

 

[redhawk23]

I don't see what is condescending about pointing out facts.

He insinuated that Avatar wasn't as well liked desite its history making Box Office.

There is no factual basis for that opinion, and there is more than enough evidence to suggest the contrary.

Same with my opinion on the influences.

Im not making up stuff to back up my own opinion. My opinion is backed up by Cameron's own words.

Also, I never even mentioned critics once in my entire post.

subtle things like word choice and a standoffish attitude made you come off really *****ey.

Stating that you're "informed." While youre right that a fair amount of people liked avatar, your "backup" on the matter, the ratings on sites like imdb and such as you stated yourself aren't really valuable. I don't know if this is still the case but for the longest time, TDK was the highest rated movie on IMDB, this is in no way at all representative of the general public. Also, yes Cameron, lists a lot of influences, but it can be argued that he leaned too heavilly on them. Somepeople don't care to see another iteration of Edgar Rice Burroughs, or at least expected more. so while I agree with you, once again, theres no reason to be such a jerk about it, you really dont have that much backing you up either.

 

[redhawk23]

Those aren't critics scores.

Those are audience scores, as he was arguing that Avatars amazing Box Office doesn't necessarily correlate to being very well received by audiences.

It obviously doesn't have to correlate. (see TF2)

But in this case, it does.

those scores are not given to any kind of valid sample of the audience, its all self reported by people that took the time to seek out the movies page and give a rating to it. Its not they come from someone actually doing a proper survey of general public attitudes, or something.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Those aren't critics scores.

Those are audience scores, as he was arguing that Avatars amazing Box Office doesn't necessarily correlate to being very well received by audiences.

It obviously doesn't have to correlate. (see TF2)

But in this case, it does.

Most of these scores were also done when the film was in theaters. I would like to see what that score is without the 3D experience. I would guess it is lower.

 

[Kane52630]

Most of these scores were also done when the film was in theaters. I would like to see what that score is without the 3D experience. I would guess it is lower.

Well not every critic/audience member saw it in 3D. I read somewhere that about 30% of the Box office sales came from 3D/IMAX.

 

[redhawk23]

Well not every critic/audience member saw it in 3D. I read somewhere that about 30% of the Box office sales came from 3D/IMAX.

Thats why I always kind of chuckle when people say that it only grossed what it did because of the 3d charge. Even if you take out the extra money from 3d and IMAX fees, it would still have grossed higher than Titanic.

 

[dark_b]

i think more then 30% was from 3D. 30 is a very low number.

and teh BR and DVD numbers were huge.

 

[matrix_ghost]

If i'm not mistaken 80% of the domestic numbers came form 3d sales.
I could've sworn that i read that somewhere.
But , while it's true that the bulk of the BO numbers came from 3d sales , the audience CHOSe to see Avatar in 3d.
The audience drove the demand and the theaters supplied . It wasn't a case of the audienc ebeing forced to see AVatar in 3d.
Here in holland there were 2d and 3d screenings as opposed to what we got nowadays which is that movies in 3d are exlusively shown in that format. There isn't a 2d option meaning you're forced to watched movies in half assed 3d such as the last airbender and clash of the titans.

 

[JAK®]

Maybe we should deduct IMAX ticket sales from TDK's box office, I mean, if we're not going to give the credit highly popular movies deserve, why stop at Avatar?

 

[mclay18]

James Cameron recently purchased 50 units of the Red Epic (three guesses where he's using them). Damn, that's more than what PJ is using for The Hobbit...

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?58071-Jim-Cameron-buys...

 

[L4c3r0]

James Cameron recently purchased 50 units of the Red Epic (three guesses where he's using them). Damn, that's more than what PJ is using for The Hobbit...

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?58071-Jim-Cameron-buys...

In his media junkets, Cameron really pushed his proprietary 3D camera system (Pace 3D). In light of Red's EPIC camera, I did wonder what Cameron was planning to shoot Avatar 2, either if he was keeping his 3D camera or switching to those sweet EPICs. I guess I know now...

 

[dark_b]

i dont think they purchased 50 cameras for Avatar 2. those are cameras that they rent to others.

 

[Kane52630]

‘Avatar 2’: The James Cameron sequel finds a home

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/05/26/avatar-2-the-james-cameron-sequel-finds-a-home/

The sequel to “Avatar” will dive beneath the oceans of Pandora and perhaps visit neighboring moons as well, but the 2014 film will also be imprinted with the soul of Southern California, according to Richard Verrier of the Los Angeles Times business section. Verrier took a tour of the new home of the “Avatar” filmmaking team and its ambitions to follow up a film that pulled in a historic $2.8 billion in worldwide box office. Here’s an excerpt from Verrier’s report …

Over the din of buzz saws and beeping forklifts, producer Jon Landau can barely contain his excitement as he strides into a 45-foot-tall sound stage that is barren except for workers building sets for a commercial shoot. “We’re taking over these two buildings here. We’ll have 200-plus people working down here. This is going to be the heart of the next two ‘Avatars’, ” he beams, referring to the planned sequels to the highest grossing film of all time.

MBS Media Campus, formerly known as Manhattan Beach Studios, has just landed A-list tenant Lightstorm Entertainment, the production company headed by “Avatar” director James Cameron and his longtime business partner Landau. The duo had considered building their own facility or even moving to Vancouver, Canada, or New Zealand to take advantage of lucrative tax breaks. Instead, they opted to remain in Los Angeles –- a boost for a region that has lost many major film productions to other locales — because of the range of services at the sprawling complex near Los Angeles International Airport.

“We had a choice,” Landau said. “We could have been anywhere. When it came down to it, we looked at what they had to offer and it was almost the perfect production paradigm: with big soundstages, adjacent office space and dressing rooms and state-of-the-art infrastructure.”

Lots more to come on this franchise …

– Geoff Boucher

 

[dark_b]

they dont need this for motion capturing. so i geuss they will build big sets for live action.

 

[:eek:]

James Cameron on the Avatar Sequels

Source: Fox News
June 21, 2011



Fox News talked to JamesCameron at the Covenant House Gala in Los Angeles where the filmmaker and his wife Suzy Amis were being honored for their philanthropic work in helping homeless youth. He talked about shooting Avatar 2 and Avatar 3 back-to-back.

"We're shooting two films back-to-back, so I'm writing two scripts, not one, which will complete a [three]-film story arc � not really a trilogy, but just an overall character arc so I'm pretty excited about that," he said. "We're doing a lot of preliminary work right now on new software and new animation techniques and so on. We're creating a new facility in Manhattan Beach so everybody that's not already dead is coming back."

And is he feeling the pressure now that Avatar is the highest-grossing film of all time with $2.78 billion worldwide?

"There's always an expectation. I had to deal with that after 'The Terminator' back in 1984. All of a sudden I had a big hit movie and it was 'what are you doing next?' But my job is take the audience on a journey and entertain them," he added. "The second I am sitting down writing, I just go to Pandora. I don't think about that stuff, about standing on a red carpet. It has its own life, really. The characters have their own lives."

Avatar 2 is scheduled to hit theaters in December of 2014 and Avatar 3 in December of 2015.

 

[JAK®]

I wish that Cameron would make something else instead of sequels to Avatar.

 

[JAK®]

I wish that Cameron would make something else instead of sequels to Avatar.

 

[Assassin32]

What happened to Battle Angel Alita?

 

[thedevilhunter]

The first film was ok but it gets too much praise and money for what it is.

 

[Sentinel X]

Honestly, I don't want James Cameron doing battle angel alita anymore, I rather some other director do it, like the director of District 9

 

[Lord]

Even before the first film was released by the story not being very original i was already waiting for Avatar 2, that's the main reason why i saw it on theatres, because i knew the 2nd would be better.
However i'm liking Avatar more than before.

 

[Knight Rise]

its gonna suck balls, just like the first one

 

[JAK®]

its gonna suck balls, just like the first one

Edgy.