JK Rowling reveals truth about Dumbledore- He was gay

[spideyboy_1111]

the point is... in my eyes people feel that dumbledore being gay changes him, and his story. when it doesn't, so why not just take the authors word for it? especially if it changes nothing? Being gay doesnt change ones personality

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Well Matt, it wasn't just something she came up with off the top of her head:

"Falling in love can blind us to an extent," Rowling explained Friday in front of a packed house at New York's Carnegie Hall, where she capped off her first U.S. book tour since 2000.

Which explains why the brilliant wizard was briefly blinded as a young man by the charm and skill of Gellert Grindelwald, his companion turned archnemesis who turned out to be more interested in the Dark Arts than a three-bedroom craftsman in Hogsmeade.

After Dumbledore was "horribly, terribly let down," Rowling explained, he went on to destroy Grindelwald in what is considered in the wizarding world to have been the ultimate wand-toting battle between good and evil.

That love, she said to raucous applause, was Dumbledore's "great tragedy."

"If I had know this would have made you so happy, I would have told you years ago," Rowling said.



While working on the sixth Potter film, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, which focuses largely on Dumbledore and Harry's relationship, as well as the elder wizard's interaction with a young Voldemort, Rowling said that she slipped director David Yates an eye-opening note after noticing that there was a reference in the script to a girl in Dumbledore's past.

 

[Majik1387]

To me, my perception IS more important than hers.

I didn't mention anything of importance

I am glad you are going to check every interview she does outside of the text before you read the books, so you can make sure your peception is in tune with her, Majik. Really, I am.

There's that smart-assery that people were referring to; minus the smart.
I've read all the books and seen all the finished movies.

I on the other hand, will happily read and make my perceptions based on the text that is given.

Your perceptions of the story and characters are no different than any of the slash/fan fiction out there.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Well Matt, it wasn't just something she came up with off the top of her head:

oddly enough.. thats how i pictured it... i figured he was infatuated with grindelwald and was hearbroken that grindelwald turned to the dark arts over dumbledores love. and that affair took alot out of him... which it'd have to.. defeating someone u loved. which would totally turn him into someone who came off as "asexual" because he rose above love... or any reminder of that was too hard for him to bare

 

[Alpha and Omega]

Rowling is worth $1.3 billion; I don't think she cares about trying to top Harry Potter's success. If she's a limelight junkie, she's no different from most of the tabloid stars we always hear about, who just happen to frequent paparazzi hotspots.

The statement sounded kind of spur of the moment(when creating the character arcs, lots of ideas are utilized, even if they're not outwardly apparent. His personality has more of an affinity to what we perceive as gay - so what!); she probably has a lot of small details such as that one.

Isn't she authoring an 8th book? It's a Potter encyclopedia I believe. Statements like these will only boost sales of that book.

Dumbledore's gay, Potter's still in the closet, Ron liked Dumbledore's pet better than Hermoine, and so on and so forth.

 

[thedeadite]

Wait a minute, and this may have been mentioned already but I'll say it anyway. Because Dumbledore's sexual orientation wasn't alluded to in the books, that made him straight in the books?? Seriously people, there are ALOT of people out there who don't go around flaunting their sexual orientations, that doesn't make them all straight. Older people, in particular, show little to no indications of what gender they prefer romantically. I actually like the fact that she had a gay character in her books that was never aluded to as being "gay". Much like many books have characters that are never alluded to as being straight. Being gay doesn't mean that everyone automatically needs to know or else you're hiding something.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

As a gay male myself i happen to hate people who practically go "Hi my name is (fill in name) and im gay", when they first meet you. Really is that all there is to you and nothing else. If your gay and an idiot or an ***hole. In my eyes thats what i see first. You just and idiot or an ***hole who happens to be gay and the same goes for people who are friendly and caring..etc. Dumbledore being gay doesnt change the fact that he is the greatest wizard there is or was.
Secondly, in case people did not get the memo, GAY DOES NOT EQUAL PEDOPHILE. why is it that the second someone is mentioned to be gay he automatically is hitting on little kids. The references to glances at harry and whoever else is just ******ed and ignorant let's take a moment to remember how old we are....some people needed to grow up a bit

 

[The Lizard]

Well Matt, it wasn't just something she came up with off the top of her head:

I think what Matt (and myself) is claiming is that Rowling came up with the gay angle recently, as in within the last year, as opposed to having conceived Dumbledore as a gay character from the get-go.

"While working on the sixth Potter film, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, which focuses largely on Dumbledore and Harry's relationship, as well as the elder wizard's interaction with a young Voldemort, Rowling said that she slipped director David Yates an eye-opening note after noticing that there was a reference in the script to a girl in Dumbledore's past."

Seeing as how production on this film didn't even start until after Deathly Hallows was published, this doesn't really mean anything.

There is of course no way to prove this theory and as I've said it really doesn't matter since we're talking about a fictional character anyway. But the cynic in me recognizes that this is a backhanded way for the admittedly liberal Jo Rowling to score points with the gay community for whatever reason.

Anyway, if Dumbledore was really gay from the start, wouldn't he have confided in Harry at some point during all those times that Harry felt like an oddball outsider? Particularly during that final spirit-world conversation when Dumby was confessing all his secrets....

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

She said "I'd've told you yearS ago."

Plural.

 

[Erzengel]

Gunny. :heart:

 

[The Lizard]

She said "I'd've told you yearS ago."

Plural.

Pfft. So she says.

I interpret that to mean "Gee I should have pulled this out of my ass years ago!"

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

This is mindblowing watching all this subconscious bigotry oozing out of everyone.

• The books don't say that he's straight or gay.
• It wasn't relevant, so she didn't mention it until they tried to go against her wishes and make him straight in a movie (and even then she didn't make it public), and when a fan outright asked her (in public) if he'd been in love before.
• None of you would be saying "Pffft, right, so she SAYS! " if the fan asked her if he'd been in love, and she said, "Yes, he was in love with a witch named Lucy."

I had no idea how many "cool" posters really say they accept gay people, but, uh, wouldn't want their daughter to marry one................or their wizard to be one.

 

[Prognosticator]

WTF?!! Dangit that spoilers the whole series for me!

 

[terry78]

Well, it was pretty apparant that Filch was batting for the other team, but Dumbledore...hmm.

 

[Prognosticator]

It was really a loaded mystery though, b/c aren't all Brits gay??

 

[BlackLantern]

To the person who called me ignorant about fan fiction.....I just don't like it....that's my feeling on it.

 

[terry78]

It was really a loaded mystery though, b/c aren't all Brits gay??

Just metrosexual. The most unkempt, macho british dude is still viewed as more cultured than any of us. It's that accent, man.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

To Stacy in New Foundland, stay with it. It gets easier with more practice and the rewards will be great!

 

[Matt]

This is mindblowing watching all this subconscious bigotry oozing out of everyone.

• The books don't say that he's straight or gay.
• It wasn't relevant, so she didn't mention it until they tried to go against her wishes and make him straight in a movie (and even then she didn't make it public), and when a fan outright asked her (in public) if he'd been in love before.
• None of you would be saying "Pffft, right, so she SAYS! " if the fan asked her if he'd been in love, and she said, "Yes, he was in love with a witch named Lucy."

I had no idea how many "cool" posters really say they accept gay people, but, uh, wouldn't want their daughter to marry one................or their wizard to be one.

It has nothing to do with being a biggot. Because we didn't interpret the character a certain way and now are calling Rowling (who has been saying a ton of stuff that seems pulled out of her ass at these recent interviews) on her BS that makes us biggots? I'd say if anyone is being a biggot, it is the people who have never read the books coming in this thread saying that anyone who does not accept this as gospel now is a homophobe (and there have been more than a few in this thread). I've already explained how I percieve the character and why Rowling saying he is either gay or straight contradicts my view on him.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

It has nothing to do with being a biggot. Because we didn't interpret the character a certain way and now are calling Rowling (who has been saying a ton of stuff that seems pulled out of her ass at these recent interviews) on her BS that makes us biggots? I'd say if anyone is being a biggot, it is the people who have never read the books coming in this thread saying that anyone who does not accept this as gospel now is a homophobe (and there have been more than a few in this thread). I've already explained how I percieve the character and why Rowling saying he is either gay or straight contradicts my view on him.

Dude. Where in the books does it say that he's straight?

 

[Erzengel]

This is mindblowing watching all this subconscious bigotry oozing out of everyone.

• The books don't say that he's straight or gay.
• It wasn't relevant, so she didn't mention it until they tried to go against her wishes and make him straight in a movie (and even then she didn't make it public), and when a fan outright asked her (in public) if he'd been in love before.
• None of you would be saying "Pffft, right, so she SAYS! " if the fan asked her if he'd been in love, and she said, "Yes, he was in love with a witch named Lucy."

I had no idea how many "cool" posters really say they accept gay people, but, uh, wouldn't want their daughter to marry one................or their wizard to be one.

I like my Wizards heterosexual.

It's maaagggiiicccc.

 

[Matt]

Dude. Where in the books does it say that he's straight?

It doesn't. I just said that saying he is either gay OR STRAIGHT would contradict my view on him. Quit being an ass Wilhelm.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

It doesn't. I just said that saying he is either gay OR STRAIGHT would contradict my view on him. Quit being an ass Wilhelm.

If it doesn't, then...*b00m*...he could be either.
Now are you going to sit there for 2 seconds and tell me that it would've caused as big a Hullaballumadorble with everyone, and there would be just as many insults hurled her way, and cynical, arrogant pronouncements about her "REAL" inner motives, if she had been asked the question, and had responded:

"Well, sorry to all of you fan-fic fans, but, Dumbledore is Straight. He had an unrequited affair with a witch named Julia Wigglebottom." ?!?

It's all because, Gay = Bad.

 

[Matt]

If it doesn't, then...*b00m*...he could be either.
Now are you going to sit there for 2 seconds and tell me that it would've caused as big a Hullaballumadorble with everyone, and there would be just as many insults hurled her way, and cynical, arrogant pronouncements about her "REAL" inner motives, if she had been asked the question, and had responded:

"Well, sorry to all of you fan-fic fans, but, Dumbledore is Straight. He had an unrequited affair with a witch named Julia Wigglebottom." ?!?

It's all because, Gay = Bad.

No, it probably wouldn't have been on the news, but that makes neither Lizard or myself "homophobes". And yes, I would've taken just as much issue with it if she said he were straight, but again...I've already explained my views on this and in all honesty, you are stirring the pot simply for the sake of it.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I like my Wizards heterosexual.

It's maaagggiiicccc.

There's room in the Rainbow for ALL of us.