Cyrusbales said:
just trying to get a discussion goin, that's all!
It's no real discussion you go on trump cards
I'll go on on panel feats. Put together from various sources.
Whirlysplat said:
lol you really haven't been reading comics long.
JJ's telepathy would own the Ultimates
http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=malefic46yz.jpg
JJ isn't very succepatble to fire these days his just held off the Bull host of Angels here. Angels>Avengers
He would beat the Ultimates alone in seconds
http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaparadiselost003092cs.jpg
Maybe nano seconds, god he's fast
http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc144&image=852_JLA057_10_11.jpg
and can be very strong
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=japan59bu1ok.jpg
Supes
Here's Superman's feats.
Supes is using his Heat Vision to get the foe off of him.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5001/supes8cz.jpg
Supes shoots a beam of low-intensity Heat Vision at the Moon. People in the watch tower was blinded except for Plastic Man cause sense he had shades on. The Moon is very far from Earth, this shows the range Supes Heat Vision has.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/...tvision24vv.jpg
In this pic it shows that Supes Heat Vision stated by them, "his vision is off the charts by any standard scientific measures". They can measure how hot a star is, but they cannot measure the temp of Supermans Heat Vision.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/...tvision30nk.jpg
In this pic his power is waning under a red sun, but he still summoned enough Heat Vision to successfully power Jor-ELs planet-moving ion engines. The in this case had a mass 16 times that of Earth's.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/...tvision17gy.jpg
In this pic, Superman is flying by the sun to stop the Cannabal planet from destroying the sun. This also prove that Supes is able to blow up a planet. He also heated up a plaent with his Heat Vision before too.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/...eatvison2np.jpg
Superman calculating the guys melting point. Wich also shows how much he holds back with his Heat Vision, to keep from killing his foes.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/...124926pm7ji.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/...125029pm5zg.jpg
Supes just spraying this guy with Heat Vision. If he wanted to, he could kill the Ultimates this way.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1535/0822311an.jpg
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Superman can also blind his opponent or just lobotimize his foe with Heat Vision. If he was fighting to kill without holding back there's no telling what he'll do.
Here's proof that Supes is light speed, and is far faster than any Ultimates character
Superman catching bullets with little effort. This is something the Ultimates character can do also though.
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/...050314pm5fl.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/...gbullets2ww.jpg
Here's Superman reading at high speeds
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/...erman1451ba.jpg
Superman fighting at high speeds.
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/...115613am7bx.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/...124311pm3un.jpg
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http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/...20mongul202.jpg
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Here's Superman vibrating (phasing) his body so fast that hes going right through Doomsday Lightning/Fire Breath. This is proof that hes far faster than any Ultimates character.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/...rmanfast3ar.jpg
Here's Superman vibrating his body invisible now, something they also can't do either.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/...visible44zc.jpg
Here's Superman calculating how fast to go on Earths Surface in populated areas. He also plug Lois them ears with cotton while he flew through.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9101/0869a916yt.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/...052719pm2ys.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/...052832pm2wo.jpg
Lois asks Superman for Champagne from another contry, and by the time she finishes her short sentence, Supes already got it, and has been waiting for a while.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/...upespeed6kt.jpg
Superman traveling at high speeds in space.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/...ssagain37xc.jpg
Superman heres GL (Kyle) about a million miles away from Earth in bed, and he gets there in seconds.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/...054558pm3oy.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/...054722pm5jq.jpg
Here's Superman taking a Darksied avatar to the sun in seconds. It takes light 8 minutes to get from Earth to the Sun.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...edbeaten7sq.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...dbeaten25ph.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...13pg08097cu.jpg
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Superman is far stronger too, as is always holding back. Superman hits Lobo from Earth into orbit, Lobo stats that if he doesn't stop himself that he'll spend the next century obitting around the planet.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...upeslobo0uo.jpg
Superman and G. Zod blows are so devastating that they are creating earthquakes and the planet is falling apart. And he was still holding back while fighting under a red sun.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...032341pm7oo.jpg
Here's Supes when hes done pulling his punches.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3613/cy14oq.jpg
Here's Superman holding a black hole in the palm of his hand for a while.
Which makes him far stronger than than any Ultimates Universe character
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/...khole0015ak.jpg
Here's Superman taking several particle beams.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/60/09122118lq.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/...ability55et.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3443/09131329ai.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/...ability20ki.jpg
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Superman taking a blast equal to a million nuclear blasts.
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Superman surviving the destruction of a sun eater at ground zero. The sun eater is an enormously energetic cloud that literally eats both the energy and mass of whole stars. The sun eater was considerably larger than a star, had been in existence for millenia and had consumed the energy of many stars by travelling from galaxy to galaxy.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/...080012pm3uo.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/...080419pm3ri.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/...ability49cp.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/...ability11pn.jpg
Here's Superman actually escaping a double black hole this proves his strength, speed, and durability.
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/...led128qt3bk.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/...led138wy8fy.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/...led140kt3ew.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/...led152oe8eq.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/...led166ov4wo.jpg
need I go on, love the trump cards do you play Pokemon as well?
Read some comics and go on on panel feats please!
- Whirly
What you just showed us doesn't proove that JJ can be stronger then the Hulk. It just shows that he can lift cars, make dents in the pavement and be very angry
