JLA Snags A-List Producer; Shooting in Aus!?

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Yes, the fact that a lot of actos have played Batman is a joke, not the movies themselves or their quality.

Jesus, it's like talking to a stump half the time.

If it's not broke, don't fix it. Here's the Batman franchise, finally reborn with a tone and star the people actually like, when all the musical chairs casting is part of what killed the franchise in the first place.

I never said I wasn't open to someone enlightening me on how Bale's resent performances were varied and emotionally deep. I truly would like to hear a well-put explanation.

It doesn't matter seeing as to how you probably wouldn't hear any of it.

Now would you like to be enlightened on why a JLA movie could succeed without Christian Bale, or would you rather just be right?

I've heard a lot of bad excuses. And that you need an A-list highly marketable actor to play Batman isn't much of one.

I never said that.

What I did say, is that a JLA movie could be successful with a popular actor who is not Christian Bale. I haven't elaborated on it beyond that simple statement.

Christian Bale is popular in this role. Anticipation on the next movie is pretty high.

Why should popularity even matter? Look what that got us with Jessica Alba in Fantastic Four.

I think more often than not, casting who is right for the roles achieves far better results than casting someon because they are popular or "successful".

And if you cast a movie star as Batman, they bring a set amount of baggage to the role that will distract audiences from them playing the character as well.

Daredevil would've been more successful if someone else other than Ben Affleck was playing the lead role.
 
If it's not broke, don't fix it.
Now that's a perfectly fine argument.

At the same time, I'm kinda of the opinion, wouldn't it be kinda nice to see a different take on Batman? I mean, isn't it nice to have, say, Frank Miller's Batman and Denny O'Neil's Batman in the comics? To be able to read and enjoy those decidedly different versions of the character in their own way?

I could see the same thing being the case for live action actors playing Batman. Bale made a fantastic realistic Batman in Christopher Nolan's Gotham. A troubled and lost young hero. Now what if we saw something else in JLA? A different Batman. More fantasy based, definitely.

I'm not saying it'll be better. But it'll be different. And sometimes it's a good thing to experience and enjoy different things.
Here's the Batman franchise, finally reborn with a tone and star the people actually like, when all the musical chairs casting is part of what killed the franchise in the first place.
No, Batman & Robin being a ****ing horrible movie is what killed the franchise in the first place.

Batman Forever - and certainly Batman Begins - did just swimmingly with a different actor playing Batman.
It doesn't matter seeing as to how you probably wouldn't hear any of it.
I'll hear whatever you have to say.

Well, maybe not you. But somebody intelligent. Get hunter rider to explain it.
I've heard a lot of bad excuses. And that you need an A-list highly marketable actor to play Batman isn't much of one.
But that isn't what I'm saying at all.

My "excuse", my argument is that if you make a JLA movie that's a quality film, and features an actor who turns in a quality performance as Batman, it will be a successful film both critically and commercially.

How can you even disagree with what I'm saying when it's glaringly obvious you don't even comprehend the words I'm writing? At least I understand your point of you.

And how can you call me the ignorant, close-minded one when, again, you're the one who so far as been incapable of even understanding anything other than your own point of you? I understand what you're saying. I comprehend it. But I disagree. You can't even do that.
Christian Bale is popular in this role. Anticipation on the next movie is pretty high.
Agreed.
Why should popularity even matter? Look what that got us with Jessica Alba in Fantastic Four.
Popularity shouldn't matter. And it certainly doesn't matter when talking about quality. But you were talking about box office, I believe. Or, at least, public perception. And all I was saying was that, I believe, people would go to see another popular actor play Batman.
I think more often than not, casting who is right for the roles achieves far better results than casting someon because they are popular or "successful".
Agreed.
And if you cast a movie star as Batman, they bring a set amount of baggage to the role that will distract audiences from them playing the character as well.
Possibly. And I've never said a giant star should be cast. Simply that, if they were cast, it's perfectly possible that they'd do as well as Christian Bale.
Daredevil would've been more successful if someone else other than Ben Affleck was playing the lead role.
Agreed.
 
Tell me how someone like John Preston wasn't hollow and one-dimensional? He was, thanks to drugs, devoid of all emotion. He couldn't feel anything. He couldn't react to anything. He had to be a rigid and soulless.
He was those things while he was ON Prozium, but I think he did a wonderful job of showing a character experiencing emotion for the first time and trying to hide that fact from those around him.

Or what about good old Patrick Bateman? A yuppie so bored with life that he loses his humanity, he loses any emotional core he could possibly have and instead turns to murder and psychopathic acts to gain some remnant of human feeling.
I've seen that movie quite a few times and it's just... I dunno... out there. LOL I still don't know if it was all supposed to be in his head, which I guess is the whole point.

Trevor Resnik? A man who's repressed guilt strips him of all other emotions save for mental, emotional, and physical exhaustion. He forgets his guilt, blocks it out, and is left with nothing but a hollow nothingness. He can't sleep because he can't feel, because he can't give himself peace.
Saw the film. Didn't like it. Too dark for my taste, but quite visceral. Bale was able to convey confusion and an almost primal fear that was palpable. Interesting ending too.

Even Batman - where Bale does exhibit the most emotion - is, through most of the film, emotionally repressed and has a forced emotional hollowness in hopes of escaping the pain of the loss of his parents.

Notice the similarity between this characters? With all of them, Bale didn't have to breath any life into them. Because they are so emotionally troubled, he can play them as if...they're not real. As if they have no soul, no deep emotional backing.
Check out Laurel Canyon and Captain Corelli's Mandolin for characters in real world situations, Velvet Goldmine and A Midsummer Night's Dream for range, and Reign of Fire for a stupid but fun popcorn character. Then watch Swing Kids and Newsies. While nothing to sing about (pun intended), after seeing films like Batman and Reign of Fire, it's like watching Kurt Russell go from playing Jungle Boy on Gilligan's Island to Snake Plissken in Escape from New York. Then there was that little film he did with Spielberg.... LOL

Having said all that - I've seen quite a few Bale pics - his being cast or not cast as Batman in a JLA film doesn't bother me one iota, and I'm a pretty big fan of his. I honestly don't think the general audience will care five minutes into the movie provided it's a well written and acted film. Will they notice Batman is being played by a different actor? Sure. Will it negatively affect the B.O.? Nah, I don't think so, especially if the actor is talented and a known audience draw. JMHO
 
It's funny how quickly things change in Hollywood. Last summer Gregory Noveck DC Comics' ''Man in Hollywood'' said this about the JL movie.

July 23, 2006

Gregory Noveck, senior vp of creative affairs at DC Comics, which is owned by Warner Bros., talked about protecting DC characters like Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and The Flash in Hollywood. And he squashed any hopes that a Justice League of America movie starring the likes of Christian Bale and Brandon Routh will ever happen. "There are some huge obstacles economically," he said. "How many 800-pound gorillas can dance on the head of a pin?" What he could announce, he said, was a series of DC homevideo animated features from the pages of Superman, Doomsday and Teen Titans "targeted at the core fan base, written by Marv Wolfman and Tom DeSanto, in the art style of the original books, not dumbed down for kids."
Source:http://reporter.blogs.com/risky/2006/07/adapting_graphi.html
 
Heres a new photo of George Miller taken on September 6th in Manly (suburb of Sydney). He opened the Manly Arts Festival last week but there was not a single mention of JL when he was interviewed.

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http://www.newsphotos.com.au/ImageDetail.asp?RefNum=94612596
http://www.manlydaily.com.au/article/2007/09/08/6319_news.html
 
I think the WB gave him a gag order not to talk about it, because everything's still in the planning stages (they probably think having him talk about it will jinx the JL project and not get it made). They'll probably let him talk about it when filming starts.
 
Cconn, obviously, has know idea what talent is.
You're very wrong. I no talent very well. :whatever:

Seriously, I wonder if they'll ever be a point in time where you people will actually think; "hey, if I can't even insult someone properly, I'm probably pretty stupid."

You're kidding yourself. You're not smarter than I am. You're no better judge of quality or talent than I am, and you're certainly not better at being a prick.
 
He was those things while he was ON Prozium, but I think he did a wonderful job of showing a character experiencing emotion for the first time and trying to hide that fact from those around him.
But that's exactly what I meant; Bale had to emote for about 5 minutes total in the whole film. How is talking in a monotone voice for 97% of a movie talent?
I've seen that movie quite a few times and it's just... I dunno... out there. LOL I still don't know if it was all supposed to be in his head, which I guess is the whole point.
Or it could be partially in his head and partially not.

But that's really a mute point in terms of Bale's performance.
Saw the film. Didn't like it. Too dark for my taste, but quite visceral. Bale was able to convey confusion and an almost primal fear that was palpable. Interesting ending too.
Personally, I thought the film was fantastic. I love, LOVE when psychology is explored and fleshed out in films and the movie did a fantastic job of that. Add to that some solid cinematography, and you've got one great mindf**k movie.
Check out Laurel Canyon and Captain Corelli's Mandolin for characters in real world situations, Velvet Goldmine and A Midsummer Night's Dream for range, and Reign of Fire for a stupid but fun popcorn character. Then watch Swing Kids and Newsies. While nothing to sing about (pun intended), after seeing films like Batman and Reign of Fire, it's like watching Kurt Russell go from playing Jungle Boy on Gilligan's Island to Snake Plissken in Escape from New York. Then there was that little film he did with Spielberg.... LOL
Maybe I'll check them out sometime. But none of those really catch my interest.
Having said all that - I've seen quite a few Bale pics - his being cast or not cast as Batman in a JLA film doesn't bother me one iota, and I'm a pretty big fan of his. I honestly don't think the general audience will care five minutes into the movie provided it's a well written and acted film. Will they notice Batman is being played by a different actor? Sure. Will it negatively affect the B.O.? Nah, I don't think so, especially if the actor is talented and a known audience draw. JMHO
My belief exactly.
 
What I did say, is that a JLA movie could be successful with a popular actor who is not Christian Bale. I haven't elaborated on it beyond that simple statement.

A new Batman isn't the problem. It's happened before and it will happen again. The problem is that there will now be two different Batmen most likely at the same time. That's lame.
 
A new Batman isn't the problem. It's happened before and it will happen again. The problem is that there will now be two different Batmen most likely at the same time. That's lame.
I don't have a problem with it.

There's been two Supermen at one time.

There's been multiple animated versions of Batman at the same time.

For me, personally, it's as simple as being smart enough to realize that JLA and Nolan's movies are two different entities and that they needn't be intimately connected to be watched or enjoyed.
 
There's been two Supermen at one time.
There's a difference between a TV show and a movie. A lot of people still think that Batman Begins is a prequel. I had to constantly dispell that notion from my mother's head when she was watching the movie and now she's just simply confused that they're two different Batman movie universes.

And just imagine how she was when I tried to explain Superman movie continuity when she watched Superman Returns. And she didn't even see Superman the Movie and Superman II which just made it worse :dry:

Imagine how she'll be if there were two different Batmen of two different continuities going around that the exact same time :wow:. Her head would explode. Do you really want that to happen to Mom :(

There's been multiple animated versions of Batman at the same time.
There were enough differences in style to differentiate the two though. Different voices, different animation styles, different continuities, different everything.

Who's to say that there would be too much of a difference to differentiate the two. It's harder for live action than a cartoon when they go on at the same time IMO.

For me, personally, it's as simple as being smart enough to realize that JLA and Nolan's movies are two different entities and that they needn't be intimately connected to be watched or enjoyed.
Poor Mom :csad:
 
Cconn, it's 'know', not 'no'. I never said I was better or smarter than you. Don't be so damn over sensitive at what was, obviously, a really lame attempt to be funny by me. There, I admitted it. It was stupid.
 
Cconn, it's 'know', not 'no'. I never said I was better or smarter than you. Don't be so damn over sensitive at what was, obviously, a really lame attempt to be funny by me. There, I admitted it. It was stupid.
Apology accepted.
 
There's a difference between a TV show and a movie. A lot of people still think that Batman Begins is a prequel. I had to constantly dispell that notion from my mother's head when she was watching the movie and now she's just simply confused that they're two different Batman movie universes.

And just imagine how she was when I tried to explain Superman movie continuity when she watched Superman Returns. And she didn't even see Superman the Movie and Superman II which just made it worse :dry:

Imagine how she'll be if there were two different Batmen of two different continuities going around that the exact same time :wow:. Her head would explode. Do you really want that to happen to Mom :(
I don't know about yours, but my mom is actually non-******ed, so she'll fair just fine.
There were enough differences in style to differentiate the two though. Different voices, different animation styles, different continuities, different everything.

Who's to say that there would be too much of a difference to differentiate the two. It's harder for live action than a cartoon when they go on at the same time IMO.
And who's to say it wouldn't be too much of a difference to differentiate the two? At least I'm open to the idea. Unlike yourself and others who won't even give it a chance.
 
I don't know about yours, but my mom is actually non-******ed, so she'll fair just fine.
:csad:

And who's to say it wouldn't be too much of a difference to differentiate the two? At least I'm open to the idea. Unlike yourself and others who won't even give it a chance.
I really don't think that Warner Bros will differentiate the two too much causing confusion. Remember there are still a lot of people who think that Batman Begins is a freaking prequel.

I think the only way to really separate the two is give Batman the grey suit and not a black one like he wears in all the other movies.

Like I said, recasting is the least of this movie's problems. The fact that there will be two Batmen and Supermen. No Martian Manhunter. An incredibly poor choice for villians. John Stewart over Hal Jordan. Mischaracterizations of Barry Allen and Batman. Just really make me not want this movie to happen.
 
This is ridiculous... The Justice League of America could possibly get a movie sometime soon, who WE ALL ARE FANS OF, and yet there are people complain about how bad it will be? Before a lick of thing has even be confirmed about?

I love Bale. But having another Batman in a different movie, is not a problem. You already had two Supermen in the media,(well don't know if Routh is anymore) and it wasn't a problem then.

Yes, the WB can wait and hopefully get Bale to do a team up. Do you know why he is so willing? Because of the ridiculous amounts of money he would get if he did signed to do such thing. Thats the reason why the WB is getting another Batman for this movie. Thats the reason they are not waiting to do this movie later. Why the 3rd Batman movie, would be Bales last as Bruce Wayne...

GL is in this movie. Dont care which one it is. Hal, John, Kyle, Guy. As long as one is in, that is the point!

And the Villians... I see nothing wrong with the Omacs... You know why you won't get Darkseid or the White Martians in this movie? Cause I can see them saving it for the 2nd and 3rd installments, after the 1st one makes more than the Spiderman movie! Yes I said it!
 
I'd rather wait several years for the right JLA movie that's not being rushed to beat a writer's strike out. With all the right actors cast in the roles.

And that's exactly what is happening with this movie right now.
 
I cant really say that I think its being rushed. The script was turned in this past Feb. ,was it not? and its still not *OFFICIALLY* greenlit yet.
I want to wait and see the casting, costumes, etc etc before crying foul.
so till then, i'll be watching for news.
 
Sorry I must of missed it but when did they say there would be No Martian Manhunter?:csad:

:csad:


I really don't think that Warner Bros will differentiate the two too much causing confusion. Remember there are still a lot of people who think that Batman Begins is a freaking prequel.

I think the only way to really separate the two is give Batman the grey suit and not a black one like he wears in all the other movies.

Like I said, recasting is the least of this movie's problems. The fact that there will be two Batmen and Supermen. No Martian Manhunter. An incredibly poor choice for villians. John Stewart over Hal Jordan. Mischaracterizations of Barry Allen and Batman. Just really make me not want this movie to happen.
 
Yeah, but I'm pretty open to the idea of JLA movie. Of course I also want MOS, so...Not sure how that would work out.
 

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