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I think the reason the trailer is so minimal is because a LOT isn't finished yet, effects-wise. And as we saw with Green Lantern, releasing a trailer with unfinished CGI can really hurt sentiment about an upcoming movie. I think once the second, full trailer is released (whenever that may be) we're all going to be like, WHOOAAAHHH!!!
I mean, there are so many things that they didn't show (if they follow the book closely)... aerial battles, green and red martian wars, Carter and Kantos battling scores of monsters in a coliseum, Princess Dejah naked
... I'm sure once we see these things, a lot of people will be sold on this movie.And if not, well, we'll always have that other John Carter movie with the underwear model and the porn star.
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From the front page.
Walt Disney Pictures is kicking off a busy year of blockbusters with the March 9th release of John Carter, previewed this morning at Anaheim's D23 Expo.
"I assumed that live-action would move faster than animation," joked director Andrew Stanton backstage to SuperHeroHype, "and was used to being on films that could last up to four years. This is just a few months shy of that by the end of my time with it. It's actually way more familiar than I thought it would be."
The first scene showcased had John Carter (Taylor Kitsch) waking up on Mars and wandering, bewildered, up a hill. He finds a large rock that looks like it has a symbol on it. He clears off some of the dust and finds it filled with eggs, which start to hatch. Out pop what seem like hundreds of baby Thark aliens. In the distance, Carter sees Thark riders coming out to meet him, and doesn't notice Willem Dafoe's character (Tars Tarkas) coming up alongside him. Not sharing a common language, Carter instinctively jumps away, not realizing that Mars' lesser gravity gives him seemingly super-powered abilities.
The riders arrive, shooting at where Carter hid. Tars manages to talk them down, and he says he will deal with the strange being. He puts down all his weapons and puts up all four of his hands to approach Carter. Carter sees that the weapons are gone, and slowly comes out. Carter and the Tharks bumble their way through first contact, with Jeddak successfully introducing himself and Tars thinking that Carter's name is Virginia.
Tars asks if Carter could jump for him again. Carter sees this as an opportunity and leaps over Tars to his pile of weapons. Tars is horrified as his comrades-at-arms pull out their guns and runs to try to stop the violence. Despite Carter holding his own gun at him, Tars throws himself around him. The screen cuts to black, there are gunshots, and Tars screams.
Dafoe, Kitsch and Collins were then brought out to talk about their characters. Dafoe had to wear three foot tall stilts every single day of shooting to help create the realism of the nine-foot tall Tharks.
"You just gotta deal with being nine feet tall," Dafoe grinned, "That's where you start and that's an important place to start. You have to feel comfortable on stilts and basically perform a movie on stilts. I've also got four arms, so there are certain times when I'm doing things with my real arms and I have to be assisted with some puppetry to animate the other ones."
The second clip had Carter held captive in a Thark nursery. Realizing he has immense strength on Mars, he tries to pull his rusty chains loose as a bizarre dog/lizard with ten legs approaches sleepily. When it seems to conk out, Carter rips his chains off the wall and leaps to another landing, only to find the creature waiting for him. He leaps again, and the creature again is waiting for him. The creature can run as fast as Carter can jump, it seems, and Carter just can't shake him.
The third clip was between John Carter and Dejah Thoris. Dejah is betrothed to marry a man she despises for the peace of her people, but Carter appears in her bed chambers. When Carter tells her not to marry the man, she demands that he give her a reason. Carter hesitates, looking at what looks to be a wedding band on his hand. Sensing this, Dejah pulls out a pendant Carter had on him when he (presumably) first appeared on Mars. She explains she has deciphered how to send him back, if that's what he chooses. All he needs to do is hold it and say a series of sounds. Guards start pounding at the door as Carter repeats the syllables and the pendant glows. As Dejah speaks the last sound, the door bursts open and the guards ask Dejah if she is alone. She looks for Carter, but he is nowhere to be seen.
"At first there was a whole lot of trepidation that went into [playing Deja Thoris] because she's so iconic," Collins told us, "Because she's the most beautiful woman in the universe and blah blah blah. I went into it feeling really into her and left feeling like a woman who had come into her own. At the end of the day, that's really what Deja Thoris is. We all have that masculine fight. We all have that feminine compassion. We can all work it out and make our bodies look great... Hopefully women and girls will access that say, 'Hey, that girl could be me!' Because they can. and boys will say, 'Hey, that could be my partner!' because it could."
The final clip had Carter and Tarkas held in a gladiatorial arena of a rival Thark clan. Tars is gravely injured already and Carter is chained to a huge rock. Try as he might his strength is no match this time. The Tharks unleash a creature called a white ape into the arena. It's absolutely massive, easily 12 feet tall, and walks on two legs and two arms in its midsection. It's coated in a white fur, and its second set of arms seem primarily for smashing things. It sniffs out Tars, as it's apparently blind. As it moves in to kill Tars, Carter smashes his chains against the ground, pulling the beast's attention away. As it approaches him, the camera turns to the bored looking Thark leader.
"Release the other one," he says, and the screen cuts to black.
After the footage was unveiled to the audience, Kitsch acknowledged the relief in finally sharing what has been years of work.
"You feel like you're sharing in some kind of journey that we all undertook," he smiled, "It's an exciting time to finally share all this."
John Carter hits theaters in 3D, 2D and IMAX 3D on March 9th.
Walt Disney Pictures is kicking off a busy year of blockbusters with the March 9th release of John Carter, previewed this morning at Anaheim's D23 Expo.
"I assumed that live-action would move faster than animation," joked director Andrew Stanton backstage to SuperHeroHype, "and was used to being on films that could last up to four years. This is just a few months shy of that by the end of my time with it. It's actually way more familiar than I thought it would be."
The first scene showcased had John Carter (Taylor Kitsch) waking up on Mars and wandering, bewildered, up a hill. He finds a large rock that looks like it has a symbol on it. He clears off some of the dust and finds it filled with eggs, which start to hatch. Out pop what seem like hundreds of baby Thark aliens. In the distance, Carter sees Thark riders coming out to meet him, and doesn't notice Willem Dafoe's character (Tars Tarkas) coming up alongside him. Not sharing a common language, Carter instinctively jumps away, not realizing that Mars' lesser gravity gives him seemingly super-powered abilities.
The riders arrive, shooting at where Carter hid. Tars manages to talk them down, and he says he will deal with the strange being. He puts down all his weapons and puts up all four of his hands to approach Carter. Carter sees that the weapons are gone, and slowly comes out. Carter and the Tharks bumble their way through first contact, with Jeddak successfully introducing himself and Tars thinking that Carter's name is Virginia.
Tars asks if Carter could jump for him again. Carter sees this as an opportunity and leaps over Tars to his pile of weapons. Tars is horrified as his comrades-at-arms pull out their guns and runs to try to stop the violence. Despite Carter holding his own gun at him, Tars throws himself around him. The screen cuts to black, there are gunshots, and Tars screams.
Dafoe, Kitsch and Collins were then brought out to talk about their characters. Dafoe had to wear three foot tall stilts every single day of shooting to help create the realism of the nine-foot tall Tharks.
"You just gotta deal with being nine feet tall," Dafoe grinned, "That's where you start and that's an important place to start. You have to feel comfortable on stilts and basically perform a movie on stilts. I've also got four arms, so there are certain times when I'm doing things with my real arms and I have to be assisted with some puppetry to animate the other ones."
The second clip had Carter held captive in a Thark nursery. Realizing he has immense strength on Mars, he tries to pull his rusty chains loose as a bizarre dog/lizard with ten legs approaches sleepily. When it seems to conk out, Carter rips his chains off the wall and leaps to another landing, only to find the creature waiting for him. He leaps again, and the creature again is waiting for him. The creature can run as fast as Carter can jump, it seems, and Carter just can't shake him.
The third clip was between John Carter and Dejah Thoris. Dejah is betrothed to marry a man she despises for the peace of her people, but Carter appears in her bed chambers. When Carter tells her not to marry the man, she demands that he give her a reason. Carter hesitates, looking at what looks to be a wedding band on his hand. Sensing this, Dejah pulls out a pendant Carter had on him when he (presumably) first appeared on Mars. She explains she has deciphered how to send him back, if that's what he chooses. All he needs to do is hold it and say a series of sounds. Guards start pounding at the door as Carter repeats the syllables and the pendant glows. As Dejah speaks the last sound, the door bursts open and the guards ask Dejah if she is alone. She looks for Carter, but he is nowhere to be seen.
"At first there was a whole lot of trepidation that went into [playing Deja Thoris] because she's so iconic," Collins told us, "Because she's the most beautiful woman in the universe and blah blah blah. I went into it feeling really into her and left feeling like a woman who had come into her own. At the end of the day, that's really what Deja Thoris is. We all have that masculine fight. We all have that feminine compassion. We can all work it out and make our bodies look great... Hopefully women and girls will access that say, 'Hey, that girl could be me!' Because they can. and boys will say, 'Hey, that could be my partner!' because it could."
The final clip had Carter and Tarkas held in a gladiatorial arena of a rival Thark clan. Tars is gravely injured already and Carter is chained to a huge rock. Try as he might his strength is no match this time. The Tharks unleash a creature called a white ape into the arena. It's absolutely massive, easily 12 feet tall, and walks on two legs and two arms in its midsection. It's coated in a white fur, and its second set of arms seem primarily for smashing things. It sniffs out Tars, as it's apparently blind. As it moves in to kill Tars, Carter smashes his chains against the ground, pulling the beast's attention away. As it approaches him, the camera turns to the bored looking Thark leader.
"Release the other one," he says, and the screen cuts to black.
After the footage was unveiled to the audience, Kitsch acknowledged the relief in finally sharing what has been years of work.
"You feel like you're sharing in some kind of journey that we all undertook," he smiled, "It's an exciting time to finally share all this."
John Carter hits theaters in 3D, 2D and IMAX 3D on March 9th.
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Interesting. There was also some stuff about this on CBM.
It sounds like Carter is not immortal in the movie (or perhaps does not realize he is immortal at first), and discovers a portal to Mars rather than dying and astral projecting himself there. That's a little disappointing (IMO) but it might not be a big deal. I'm guessing that he is actually an immortal since we know that he "dies" in the movie from the trailer and one would assume that he probably comes back to life on Mars.
The Mars/Barsoom scenes sound incredible. Can't wait to see that gladiatorial battle.
It sounds like Carter is not immortal in the movie (or perhaps does not realize he is immortal at first), and discovers a portal to Mars rather than dying and astral projecting himself there. That's a little disappointing (IMO) but it might not be a big deal. I'm guessing that he is actually an immortal since we know that he "dies" in the movie from the trailer and one would assume that he probably comes back to life on Mars.
The Mars/Barsoom scenes sound incredible. Can't wait to see that gladiatorial battle.
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The footage didn't play very well and the reaction was lukewarm. I'm just not really getting into this project. I don't think Kitsch is going to be a big leading man, and I hear the budget for this was out of control.
My other problem with the footage is that it looks like Stanton is cutesying the material up. Lots of cutesy Disney critters. My problem with that is that this is a dying world that has descended into barbarism. All the cute animal crap sort of kills the tone. Disney is already pandering a lot by calling it John Carter instead of A Princess of Mars.
I didn't like the Dejah/Carter scene. Carter is conflicted because of loyalty toward his Earth wife or something and tries to hide his wedding ring. Dejah notes that her wedding gown is too vulgar for her tastes. Umm what? Burroughs book had Martian women be virtually naked. Stanton has clearly taken a lot of liberties in interpreting the material. He showed an image of Frazetta painting of John Carter and it just seems nothing like that. He's totally Disney-fied the material. The footage reminded me of the Prince of Persia. Basically looks like Prince of Persia on Mars. I don't like how the Tharks look either.
My other problem with the footage is that it looks like Stanton is cutesying the material up. Lots of cutesy Disney critters. My problem with that is that this is a dying world that has descended into barbarism. All the cute animal crap sort of kills the tone. Disney is already pandering a lot by calling it John Carter instead of A Princess of Mars.
I didn't like the Dejah/Carter scene. Carter is conflicted because of loyalty toward his Earth wife or something and tries to hide his wedding ring. Dejah notes that her wedding gown is too vulgar for her tastes. Umm what? Burroughs book had Martian women be virtually naked. Stanton has clearly taken a lot of liberties in interpreting the material. He showed an image of Frazetta painting of John Carter and it just seems nothing like that. He's totally Disney-fied the material. The footage reminded me of the Prince of Persia. Basically looks like Prince of Persia on Mars. I don't like how the Tharks look either.
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While I know that the footage didn't wow the press, there's a part of me who says dont be too dismissive because Andrew Stanton is talented and they even got Michael Chabon. If they manage to screw up. then that's heartbreaking.
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Andrew Stanton is talented but he's still in uncharted territory here.
Look at Rob Minkoff. Good, talented guy and he made one of the most successful and hailed animated movies ever in The Lion King. Look at his live action efforts: Haunted Mansion and The Forbidden Kingdom.
Also, freaking Taylor Kitsch's awful acting and execution. I wasn't getting the conflict in his scene with Dejah Thoris at all. Also, my understanding is that Chabon only did some re-writes and revisions.
Look at Rob Minkoff. Good, talented guy and he made one of the most successful and hailed animated movies ever in The Lion King. Look at his live action efforts: Haunted Mansion and The Forbidden Kingdom.
Also, freaking Taylor Kitsch's awful acting and execution. I wasn't getting the conflict in his scene with Dejah Thoris at all. Also, my understanding is that Chabon only did some re-writes and revisions.
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I must admit I've felt like Kitsch would be the weak link. Still hopeful tho.
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we will see.
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Sobim assuming it's not the CG but the actual designs that make ye tharks cartoony looking? It might be the placement of the eyes and long face.
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It is both really. It looks like Stanton brought too much of his Pixar self to the table by making lots of charcacters that are too cute.
Case in point, John stumbles on a Tharks nursery and out hatch these cute little baby Tharks. Another scene, Carter is imprisoned, but he's imprisoned with these ****ing baby Tharks! Why is he imprisoned amongst their little babies?! So the baby Tharks are cuddling up to him and sleeping on him. Then he meets this big Martian dog that acts like this big, cute dog that follows him everywhere.
The Tharks don't look like this threatening, tribalism warrior race. They look way too friendly and unthreatening. They look more like Gungans from Star Wars instead of say Orcs from Lord of The Rings.
This movie looks about as edgy as a spoon. I thought this was supposed to be a pretty harsh, barbaric world.
Case in point, John stumbles on a Tharks nursery and out hatch these cute little baby Tharks. Another scene, Carter is imprisoned, but he's imprisoned with these ****ing baby Tharks! Why is he imprisoned amongst their little babies?! So the baby Tharks are cuddling up to him and sleeping on him. Then he meets this big Martian dog that acts like this big, cute dog that follows him everywhere.
The Tharks don't look like this threatening, tribalism warrior race. They look way too friendly and unthreatening. They look more like Gungans from Star Wars instead of say Orcs from Lord of The Rings.
This movie looks about as edgy as a spoon. I thought this was supposed to be a pretty harsh, barbaric world.
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The dog *is* a big cuddly thing, although the books describe it as looking somewhat monstrous. The babies I would expect to be somewhat cute. And if memory serves he was being watched over by one of the women along with the babies, this was after the Tharks determined he wasn't a threat but still worth keeping an eye on.
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Well maybe Stanton has it right then. I just think they look way too Disneyfied cute.
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I was at D23 and saw all the footage.
Kitsch is very blank and not in a good stone faced, stoic quality that classic actors I had. I think maybe he and Stanton wanted to mimic that style but didn't do a very good job. He's got this hot scantily clad woman in front of him and he barely reacts at all. Like I don't get the conflict of his choice of choosing between the woman and going home.
Kitsch is very blank and not in a good stone faced, stoic quality that classic actors I had. I think maybe he and Stanton wanted to mimic that style but didn't do a very good job. He's got this hot scantily clad woman in front of him and he barely reacts at all. Like I don't get the conflict of his choice of choosing between the woman and going home.
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John Carter Exclusive Sneak Peak
http://www.blackfilm.com/read/2011/10/john-carter-exclusive-sneak-peak/
http://www.blackfilm.com/read/2011/10/john-carter-exclusive-sneak-peak/
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John Carter Exclusive Sneak Peak
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That looks pretty good!
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Wooo! I think that this movie is going to surprise people by how good it'll be. Kind of like what Rise of the Planet of the Apes did.
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This must be what the White Apes in the Colosseum scene look like! I've been dying to see the scene, it sounds like it'll be a thrill to watch:
Another image of a Thark, these people look great:
Some cool martian weaponry.
Another image of a Thark, these people look great:
Some cool martian weaponry.
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I'm crazy in love with ambitious sci fi world building, but I can't lie, I have a bad feeling about this. I want to be dead wrong. I want to see full bore sci fi done with real sincerity and passion, but I can't shake that feeling. That orange and teal look of the trailer was a big turn off too. I really hope that it's just the piss poor marketing campaign they've got going and that the movie itself is going to deliver. Please?
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The bad feeling is "the chronicles of riddick" not to be confused with the "chronicles of Narnia" effect (syndrome)
There off to the right start by omitting any mention of chronicles in the title at all.
It looks like it might be too far reaching. I think we all know why these movies tend to flop, but they can be done right.
There off to the right start by omitting any mention of chronicles in the title at all.
It looks like it might be too far reaching. I think we all know why these movies tend to flop, but they can be done right.
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