Jupiter Moon's Ice-Covered Ocean Is Rich in Oxygen

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from space.com

There may be enough oxygen in the waters of Jupiter's moon Europa to support millions of tons worth of fish, according to a new study. And while nobody is suggesting there might actually be fish on Europa, this finding suggests the Jovian satellite could be capable of supporting the kinds of life familiar to us here on Earth, if only in microbial form.
Europa, which is roughly the size of Earth's moon, is enveloped by a global ocean about 100 miles deep (160 km), with an icy crust that may be only a few miles thick. From what we know of Earth, where there is water, there is a chance at life, so for many years scientists have speculated that this Jovian moon could support extraterrestrials.
As we learned more about Jupiter's effect on its moons, the possibility for life on Europa grew even more likely. Studies showed the moon could have enough oxygen to support the kind of life we are most familiar with on Earth.
The ice on the surface, like all water, is made from hydrogen and oxygen, and the constant stream of radiation pouring in from Jupiter reacts with this ice to form free oxygen and other oxidants such as hydrogen peroxide. The reactivity of oxygen is key to generating the energy that helped multi-cellular life flourish on our planet.
Still, researchers had thought there was no effective method for delivering any of this oxygen-rich matter into Europa's ocean. Scientists had assumed the primary way for surface materials to migrate downward was from the impacts it would suffer from cosmic debris, which regularly bombards everything in our solar system. [Photos of Jupiter's moons.]
However, past calculations suggested that even after a few billion years, such "impact gardening" would never lead to an oxygenated layer more than some 33 feet (10 meters) deep into the ice shell, nowhere far enough down to reach the underlying ocean.
However, the new study suggests this oxygen-rich layer could be far thicker than before thought, potentially encompassing the entire crust. The key is looking at other ways to stir Europa's crust, explained researcher Richard Greenberg, a planetary scientist at the University of Arizona's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory at Tucson.
The gravitational pull Europa experiences from Jupiter leads to tidal forces roughly 1,000 times stronger than what Earth feels from our moon, flexing and heating Europa and making it very active geologically. This could explain why its surface appears no older than 50 million years old — its surface underwent complete turnover in that time.
A major resurfacing process on Europa seems to be the formation of double ridges, which cover at least half of its surface. Tidal forces may be causing fresh ice from below — probably newly frozen ocean water — to push upward and over the surface, where it would slowly get oxygenated.
As ridges pile on top of ridges, older material gets buried, shoving this oxygen-rich matter downward. After one or two billion years, this process alone could spread oxidants throughout the entire crust, thus reaching the ocean, Greenberg calculated.
Other mechanisms could help stir Europa's crust also. Parts of the surface could partially melt from below, leading rafts of ice to break loose and tumble around before they froze back in place.
Roughly 40 percent of Europa's crust appears to be covered with the ensuing "chaotic terrain." Also, as matter comes up from below and widens cracks, the nearby surface crumples, burying some material. These extra processes could help push some oxidants downward, but it would still take at least two billion years or so before radiation loaded the entire crust with oxygen.
As ice on the base of this oxygenated crust melts, even with the most conservative assumptions, after only a half-million years oxidant levels in the ocean would reach the minimum oxygen concentration seen in Earth's oceans, which on Earth is enough to support small crustaceans, Greenberg found.
In only 12 million years, oxidant concentrations would reach the same saturation levels of Earth's oceans, enough to support our largest sea life. Given the cold temperatures and high pressures likely seen in Europa's ocean, it could actually take in more oxygen than Earth's oceans could before its water reached its saturation point.
"I was surprised at how much oxygen could get down there," Greenberg said.
One concern about all this oxygen was that it might actually do more harm than good. The extraordinary reactivity of oxygen could in principle disrupt the chemical processes that are thought to lead to the origin of life and that may have been an aspect of early life.
On Earth, life had more than a billion years to evolve, before oxygen became plentiful in the atmosphere, and that delay gave organisms plenty of time to develop genetic mechanisms and physical structures that allowed them to use oxygen, instead of being destroyed by it.
The delay of 1 to 2 billion years before oxygen in Europa's crust made its way into its ocean is roughly the same amount of time it took life on Earth to develop before oxygen became a problem, so life might have enough of a respite to develop on the Jovian moon. Assuming life on Europa respired at rates similar to fish on Earth, the continuous rate of oxygen delivery there could sustain roughly 3 million metric tons of life, Greenberg said.
One might not have to wait for a probe to land on Europa to detect any oxygen there. "Spectroscopy done by telescopes on Earth or in orbit can tell what substances are mixed into the ice," Greenberg said.
Greenberg detailed his findings May 6 in the journal Astrobiology.


I've been saying this since forever, we should have put Titan on hold and explored this world. Tidal heating from Jupiter creates heat, and there is life strong enough to survive the intense heat from the volcanoes at the bottom of our oceans. Whoo-hoo! I say, only a matter of time.....
 
too long, didn't read...

But, no surprise there.
 
give me a minute, I'll sum it up for you....
 
"Get your ass to Europa!"

Its amazing how much findings NASA is finding nowadays.
 
if they want to talk about water worlds what about Uranus? ::waits till the jokes subside and wishes they would have given that planet a different name:: essentially Uranus is a water world with a core surrounded by a 3000km ocean of highly pressurized water. The crazy thing is they never make light of this, because the world is a toxic mix of poisonous substances. but life has been shown to thrive anywhere.


anyway I promised to sum up the news article for those lazy to read, even though that reading is fundamental...


Europa is a moon of Jupiter that has a 100 mile deep ocean. The surface of said world is an ice crust a couple of miles thick which shields the world from the dangerous radiation from Jupiter. The ice on the surface of the world is made up of hydrogen and water. The radiation from Jupiter changes the molecular composition of the ice to free oxygen and other compounds such as hydrogen peroxide. This is the same process that enabled complex life on Earth to flourish. Scientists thought the only way oxygen could reach the bottom of the ocean was from asteroids and other impacts, but when they did the math, it turns out it the oxygen from the impact material would only penetrate 33 feet into the ice shell that covers Europa; never reaching the ocean. BUT!!! Because Europa TWISTS as the result of Jupiter's gravity, the ice shell full of oxygen gets "resurfaced" meaning it gets pushed deeper into the the ocean as new ice covers the surface. Scientists beleive that In 12 million years the oxygen levels become the same as Earth's oceans. However there is a danger of too much oxygen, assuming life on Europa respired at the same rate of Earth. The oxygen levels could be more and could hold a lot of fish. Or since Dinosaurs on Earth grew big because of too much oxygen, there may very well be sea monsters there.
 
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^that's still too much reading

I'll just take it that there's oxygen and water on Jupiter's moon that can sustain life but none have been found.

I think that's a better summary
 
well they thought only oxygen would be in the surface ice due to impacts from asteroids, but when the surface ice cracks the old layer gets pushed down into the ocean. They were just wondering how oxygen got into the ocean. And now they found out it should have more oxygen then our ocean.
 
Who says oxygen is needed to support life anyway? Human scientists? What do they know other than the rules that were made on Earth?

See that's the problem with a lot of people, they think the rules we have apply to the rest of the universe.
 
Who says oxygen is needed to support life anyway? Human scientists? What do they know other than the rules that were made on Earth?

See that's the problem with a lot of people, they think the rules we have apply to the rest of the universe.

are you trying to say there could be super powered aliens on other planets?

so Superman might actually be possible? :woot:
 
Perhaps i am... :awesome:

Na but seriously, anything is possible out there in the universe. It's pretty arrogant and ignorant of us humans to think the rules we make and follow apply to the rest of the universe.
 
I thought they were supposed to be going there to study that moon anyways? Guess I was wrong.
 
Who says oxygen is needed to support life anyway? Human scientists? What do they know other than the rules that were made on Earth?

See that's the problem with a lot of people, they think the rules we have apply to the rest of the universe.

They do understand that...but it makes sense, when we're first looking for life elsewhere, to look in places that we know are capable for supporting life.
 
I already heard about this years ago when I saw James Cameron's Aliens of the Abyss Imax film where him and a team or two went to the very bottom of the ocean in these pods. Part of the film had a CGI segment where it showed what Europa looks like and that under it's ice layer it's all water.

I don't get the least bit excited over microscopic life. Wake me up when they actually find some intelligent life.
 
Microbes are a HUGE finding.... if there are microbes there, there may be life in a good fraction of stable systems. I'm sure aliens would be just around the block if life is so prevalent in the solar system alone. This is actually the first time I've heard of Europa being O2 rich, so it is news to me. If it is just comes from reactions catalyzed from Jupiter's radiation then we probably need to look elsewhere.
 
Microbes are a HUGE finding.... if there are microbes there, there may be life in a good fraction of stable systems. I'm sure aliens would be just around the block if life is so prevalent in the solar system alone. This is actually the first time I've heard of Europa being O2 rich, so it is news to me. If it is just comes from reactions catalyzed from Jupiter's radiation then we probably need to look elsewhere.

I'm not doubting that Microorganisms are a huge find when found off Earth but it just doesn't get me excited solely because of the fact that when/if they evolve into intelligent life, we'll be long gone. :csad:
 
There have been reports of Earth-like worlds next to giant stars (bigger than the sun) in other solar systems thousands of light years away.
 
So all we need to do is build a giant wet-dry vacuum, suck all the water from Europa, and put it on Earth. No more water shortages.
 
We don't have to do that, there is water throughout the solar system, there is water on the moon, there is water from comets. and outer planets. Heck Uranus has a 3000 km deep ocean of water ammonia and methane; Thats 1900+ miles deep of water we could quench our thirst with that planet for hundreds of years (if we figured a way to reach that ocean without collapsing from the atmospheric pressure. They just recently discovered that Saturn's moon Enceladus maybe a snowball world that covers a liquid ocean. In a few billion years scientist speculate Neptune would be a water world, which would be a perfect base for humans to refuel to escape the solar system once the Sun grows so big it covers Jupiter. I hope for someday we see a one world government where we can pool all of our resources to develop tools to study the solar system.
 
I've always wondered why they haven't visited Europa yet, or just send a "rover" thing there.
 
We don't have to do that, there is water throughout the solar system, there is water on the moon, there is water from comets. and outer planets. Heck Uranus has a 3000 km deep ocean of water ammonia and methane; Thats 1900+ miles deep of water we could quench our thirst with that planet for hundreds of years (if we figured a way to reach that ocean without collapsing from the atmospheric pressure. They just recently discovered that Saturn's moon Enceladus maybe a snowball world that covers a liquid ocean. In a few billion years scientist speculate Neptune would be a water world, which would be a perfect base for humans to refuel to escape the solar system once the Sun grows so big it covers Jupiter. I hope for someday we see a one world government where we can pool all of our resources to develop tools to study the solar system.

Does the moon, outer planets, and comets have microscopic life though? The fun is from the alien germs in Europa.
 
I would think since there is so much oxygen there, something big might be living there. The dinosaurs were explained to grow big because during the early days of Earth oxygen was at higher levels than today. I'm not sure if the size of Earth's gravity played a factor with their size.
 

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