Kang the Conquerer NOT owned by Marvel

[Dasher10]

Im still baffled by why Universal still has Namor when they've not done anything with him since gaining the film rights.

They don't. Marvel recently renegotiated for him back. And as Marvel's first superhero and the foundation of the 616 Universe, he really does deserve to be at Marvel. Universal also has a similar deal to the one Sony has where their properties are in the MCU.

 

[KDM1986]

Im still baffled by why Universal still has Namor when they've not done anything with him since gaining the film rights.

I'd assume it's more about distribution rights, just like solo hulk films.

 

[random_havoc]

Hate Fox at this point. Will not pay a dime to see any of their movies

 

[ironman29758]

You neglect the cold stone truth that Fox won't use him anymore than the Shi'ar Empire.

Fox is still greedy and untrusting whether its Rothman or Watts.

That may be true, and then again, it may be a wait and see as well especially depending on who the directors and writers and what they do with the characters as well, even though Marvel have came out with a lot of good to fantastic movies(only films I truly dislike are Iron Man 3, and Thor 2), it's hard not to forget that has been a fair amount of editorial interference problems as well as shown with Edgar Wright and Ant Man, Joss Whedon and AoU(fighting for certain scenes such as Hawkeye and the farm scene), Jon Favreau and Iron Man 2, Louis Leterrier and the Incredible Hulk, etc.

There was a time when people complained that Sentinels would never be seen in a Fox X-Men film, neither would Apocalypse, or even more comic accurate X-Men costumes and stuck with dull black leather costumes(First Class was definitely a step in the right direction plus a more comic book accurate Jubilee, Nightcrawler and Deadpool). Even though Fox is far from my favorite company, I have honestly enjoyed a lot of the X-Men films that have came out since First Class, which have steadily given me more hope in the franchise, we don't if and how any of the characters will be used and how Kang might fit into the Fox(specifically Brian Singer/Simon Kinberg/Dan Harris/Michael Dougherty team) X-Men narrative/cannon but if he is used in Apocalypse(preferably in the same way Rama Tut was used in X-Men Evolution) than that would perfect for me as a viewer. I want to wait and see before personally rushing into the "pack it up and send it to Marvel Studios" and "I won't pay money to Fox in order for Marvel to get it back faster", because honestly Fox X-Men is doing more than alright and I hate how low Marvel/Disney is stooping to in order to get Fantastic Four and X-Men back because it's coming across as more than petty, with them stopping merchandise and taking off certain characters off shirts like the recent Secret Wars shirt.

 

[PyroChamber]

This sucks, a lot of people wanted Kang to be the next big bad after Thanos, if marvel can't use him then what character can be a big enough threat that they can use?

 

[Dasher10]

This sucks, a lot of people wanted Kang to be the next big bad after Thanos, if marvel can't use him then what character can be a big enough threat that they can use?

I just named a few a page back.

 

[ernesth100]

Yes! Attuma vs avengers ftw!

 

[Zarex]

This sucks, a lot of people wanted Kang to be the next big bad after Thanos, if marvel can't use him then what character can be a big enough threat that they can use?

Grandmaster and his fellow Elders, Inhumans, Masters of Evil, Celestials, Supreme Intelligence and the Kree, Skrulls, Michael Korvac, Eternals, MODOK, Squadron Supreme, Hercules and the Greek Pantheon. And that's assuming Marvel doesn't get the FF family rights back, which is a very strong possibility with the reboot looking terrible and FOX angling for TV rights,

 

[Eddie]

This sucks, a lot of people wanted Kang to be the next big bad after Thanos, if marvel can't use him then what character can be a big enough threat that they can use?

Beyonder is likely with Marvel, Dormammu certainly is, the Masters of Evil are (not every character, of course, but the vast majority), Mephisto, etc. They have options. That's also assuming they even want a "big bad". They could always focus less on an overarching plot for a bit.

 

[ernesth100]

Agreed, not every Avengers enemy has to be Thanos level. They just have to have some power enough to pose a threat make them come together and carry a film.

 

[Zarex]

Beyonder is likely with Marvel, Dormammu certainly is, the Masters of Evil are (not every character, of course, but the vast majority), Mephisto, etc. They have options. That's also assuming they even want a "big bad". They could always focus less on an overarching plot for a bit.

After I calmed myself down I thought the same thing. I love Kang, but does Marvel want to go back to the Big Bad route after Loki, Ultron and Thanos? A superhero team throw down may be a nice change of pace. Perhaps a Skrull Secret Invasion or a field trip to the Savage Land. I'm sure they'll muddle through.

 

[Eddie]

Considering we'll have Spidey, Strange, Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, and DD very well established by that point, I could see the first post-Infinity War Avengers film drawing from New Avengers. The Hood could potentially be an Avengers film villain (if you don't know him, he tends to try to harness powers he really shouldn't, like Dormammu or the Infinity Gems).

 

[ernesth100]

I'd like a Savage Land Avengers film in the style of Jurassic Park. With Avengers encountering dinosaurs and endining with them fighting Fin Fang Foom(who I believe is a resident in the Savage Land if memory serves correct).

Skrull secret Invasion would be nice to but I thought Fox had Skrull rights.

 

[Eddie]

Skrulls are shared, but we don't know the limitations right now.

 

[Zarex]

I'd like a Savage Land Avengers film in the style of Jurassic Park. With Avengers encountering dinosaurs and endining with them fighting Fin Fang Foom(who I believe is a resident in the Savage Land if memory serves correct).

Skrull secret Invasion would be nice to but I thought Fox had Skrull rights.

I believe they are shared. But who the hell knows?

 

[Eddie]

Technically, the Chitauri are a sorta kinda Ultimate Marvel Skrull, so Marvel using the Chitauri (even if they were radically different from the source) is probably a decent indication that Feige wasn't mistaken on that Skrulls being a grey area thing.

Though for all we know, the limitations on proper Skrulls could be bad enough that it isn't worth bringing them in.

 

[TheVileOne]

How the hell did Kang the Conqueror end up at Fox?

 

[Sithborg]

How the hell did Kang the Conqueror end up at Fox?

I suspect it is the Nathaniel Richards connection, more than Rama-tut.

Despite my current preferences, it still sucks that Avengers is lacking one of their key villians.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It sort of makes sense. Kang was Rama Tut in FF before he was Kang in Avengers.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Graviton hasn't been much of a threat in the MCU. He's been imprisoned since the first season of Agents of SHIELD, and he was defeated rather easily just by Coulson alone. At the moment he's hardly a movie-level villain, and the actor isn't exactly at that level either.

well he was good enough in the past to play a villain in a huge hollywood blockbuster franchise

Hate Fox at this point. Will not pay a dime to see any of their movies

welcome to my world

 

[Knight_SV]

I suspect it is the Nathaniel Richards connection, more than Rama-tut.

Despite my current preferences, it still sucks that Avengers is lacking one of their key villians.

Don't forget immortus too.
Kind of disappointed to know that kang rights belong to fox when all of us projected that he will be the big bad after thanos

 

[Hypestyle]

Kang should be shared. He can traverse different dimensions. He can look one way in the FF films and he can look another way in the Avengers/MCU films. There's also the angle of the female Kang.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I'm kind of hoping Gunn is mistaken about this. Kang should be an Avengers villain first and foremost. His retconned origin is no worse than Pietro and Wanda being children of Magneto. You ignore that part. Worse, it makes the whole question of who is associated with the Fantastic Four more confusing. Plenty of characters who have their origins there aren't FF characters. While characters that only have small connections apparently are. Confusing.

 

[Aztec]

They don't. Marvel recently renegotiated for him back. And as Marvel's first superhero and the foundation of the 616 Universe, he really does deserve to be at Marvel. Universal also has a similar deal to the one Sony has where their properties are in the MCU.

Do you have any proof of this? Source? Because I haven't heard of anything. The last I heard Namor and Hulk solo movie distribution rights are still at Universal.

This of course means Marvel can still use these characters but Universal will have to distribute. Just like the Spider-Man deal with Sony.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I'm kind of hoping Gunn is mistaken about this. Kang should be an Avengers villain first and foremost. His retconned origin is no worse than Pietro and Wanda being children of Magneto. You ignore that part. Worse, it makes the whole question of who is associated with the Fantastic Four more confusing. Plenty of characters who have their origins there aren't FF characters. While characters that only have small connections apparently are. Confusing.

I agree. My expectation was that Fox owned Rama Tut and Nathaniel Richards. And Marvel owned Kang and Immortus. Plenty of story to go around there I think. And then in 2030 Fox and Marvel would finally get over themselves, work together and blow our minds by merging the timelines of these alternate universes in a massive crossover while revealing that these 4 personas of Kang were actually one and the same person after all.