"Make America Great Again!": The TRUMP Thread!!! - - - - - - - - - - Part 19

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[TheCommissioner]

we're already divided, have been forever

the lines are just clear as day now

White America wants to stay white, no matter how many black friends they have and no matter how nice they are to their Hispanic neighbors

 

[Ms. Marvel]

I think it shouldn't be ignored that Trump got more minority votes than Mitt Romney and 1% less of the white vote. I know that is due in part to the third party candidates but lets not start throwing the blame at white people.

 

[Kyle]

Ah. Thought it was "trying" - in original post that I was referring to - completely misread that then, since it sounded like it was in response to what was going on right now in Florida since Florida went Trump. Just beyond used to minority in-fighting, even within the LGBT communtiy.

 

[TheCommissioner]

he did, those numbers are there

but white people voted for Trump in STAGGERING amounts

once all the numbers are in, its going to be a very clear "mandate"

 

[Kyle]

I think it shouldn't be ignored that Trump got more minority votes than Mitt Romney and 1% less of the white vote. I know that is due in part to the third party candidates but lets not start throwing the blame at white people.

He's either Pro Malcolm X's ways or Black Panthers' way. I haven't been able to quite figure it out yet which it is. He, sadly, isn't the only one. There has been graffiti reading "die whites die" and on the news was a hispanic woman protestor yelling that there will be victims and deaths on both sides (the other side being the "white devil").

 

[Ms. Marvel]

he did, those numbers are there

but white people voted for Drumpf in STAGGERING amounts

once all the numbers are in, its going to be a very clear "mandate"

Yes, as they tend to do for republican candidates.

 

[TheCommissioner]

He's either Pro Malcolm X's ways or Black Panthers' way. I haven't been able to quite figure it out yet which it is. He, sadly, isn't the only one. There has been graffiti reading "die whites die" and on the news was a hispanic woman protestor yelling that there will be victims and deaths on both sides (the other side being the "white devil").

I would be hard pressed to disagree with her

not something anyone wants, but it is a grim reality we face

 

[Kyle]

I would be hard pressed to disagree with her

not something anyone wants, but it is a grim reality we face

She was saying she would personally aim to attack and kill. That she would bringer of violence. Just to clarify. Would you still agree with her methodology?

 

[Clark-Kent]

I think there is a large portion of white people that would like to move on from racial division, and truly want other races to be able to have every opportunity. Out of those same people there is a problem still. They feel sick of talking about race and just want to ignore issues. Missing is a serious lack of needed empathy, to recognize what fight there still is to gain the equal footing.

Just saying, "Don't complain. Just work hard and get yourself up the ladder." is usually true for white people, but most likely another white person is holding that ladder steady! Those at the top are still going to hold some bias and no matter how much we'd like to just ignore the past, it keeps factoring into the present.

 

[Kyle]

I think there is a large portion of white people that would like to move on from racial division, and truly want other races to be able to have every opportunity. Out of those same people there is a problem still. They feel sick of talking about race and just want to ignore issues. Missing is a serious lack of needed empathy, to recognize what fight there still is to gain the equal footing.

Just saying, "Don't complain. Just work hard and get yourself up the ladder." is usually true for white people, but most likely another white person is holding that ladder steady! Those at the top are still going to hold some bias and no matter how much we'd like to just ignore the past, it keeps factoring into the present.

Precisely it's not racism, per se, it's apathy. That's the one word that can act as an umbrella for everything we've been seeing across racial, sexuality, gender, and political lines these past couple of days.

Even non voting, which I can't find the graph but it's staggering - 46% of the population did NOT vote. This reporting saying half the country voted for Trump is a misnomer that's confusing a lot of people - less than 25% of the country did. And since while reactionary, it's impossible that all those people are fascists - less than 25% of the country are fascists. Those non voters are more apathetic to everything rather than being fascists as well, if they were - they'd have made sure to vote Trump who was losing in the polls.

Those statistics are necessary to be seen in comparison to other years because it paints a clearer picture of what is going on. Half the country didn't vote, half of that didn't vote Trump, not all of that can theoretically be fascists. There's a deeper route problem at play than the one the "half the country voted for Trump" says - technically it's "the half of the half of the country that voted when Hillary looked like a landslide in the poll projections."

 

[TheCommissioner]

She was saying she would personally aim to attack and kill. That she would bringer of violence. Just to clarify. Would you still agree with her methodology?

of course not

but it doesn't surprise me

 

[Kelly]

Precisely it's not racism, per se, it's apathy. That's the one word that can act as an umbrella for everything we've been seeing across racial, sexuality, gender, and political lines these past couple of days.

Even non voting, which I can't find the graph but it's staggering - 46% of the population did NOT vote. This reporting saying half the country voted for Trump is a misnomer that's confusing a lot of people - less than 25% of the country did. And since while reactionary, it's impossible that all those people are fascists - less than 25% of the country are fascists. Those non voters are more apathetic to everything rather than being fascists as well, if they were - they'd have made sure to vote Trump who was losing in the polls.

Those statistics are necessary to be seen in comparison to other years because it paints a clearer picture of what is going on. Half the country didn't vote, half of that didn't vote Trump, not all of that can theoretically be fascists. There's a deeper route problem at play than the one the "half the country voted for Trump" says - technically it's "the half of the half of the country that voted when Hillary looked like a landslide in the poll projections."

I see where you are coming from, but I think the apathy you speak of has actually turned into a desensitized media, in all forms, movies, tv series, news...etc...and where media (pop culture) goes so goes the people....

 

[samsnee]

A couple of white friends said they don't think their lives under Trump would really change. Must be nice to not have to worry about that.

As I've said before, Democrats get elected President, and Republicans worry about losing their guns.

Republicans get elected and Democrats worry about losing civil rights, abortion rights, and environmental progress.

Doesn't seem quite comparable.

 

[Kyle]

I see where you are coming from, but I think the apathy you speak of has actually turned into a desensitized media, in all forms, movies, tv series, news...etc...and where media (pop culture) goes so goes the people....

The confusing part about that is which is the chicken and which is the egg. More than likely they're both the chicken and the egg working in tandem.

 

[Kyle]

A couple of white friends said they don't think their lives under Trump would really change. Must be nice to not have to worry about that.

As I've said before, Democrats get elected President, and Republicans worry about losing their guns.

Republicans get elected and Democrats worry about losing civil rights, abortion rights, and environmental progress.

Doesn't seem quite comparable.

It's all in the rhetoric. Trump got a lot of his voters the same way the KKK and Nazis get new members. Scary thing is, they can't see that they've been preyed upon.

While some align with him all the way, creating a fascist Trump regime you also have those apathetic to the fascism side of it but pulled hook, line, and sinker into the desperate answer they're seeking in "jobs, economy, stop terrorism" that they'd vote for anybody. And in 'issues' those groups defer to the same ones to blame - immigrants, muslims, those who are different, and anybody who disagrees.

There are actually members of the kkk and nazis who DON'T believe in the fascism side, but see it as someone who might have an answer so they ignore that in favor of potential security (sound familiar to the Trump supporters who aren't attacking minorities yet want to just plug their ears?). Hard to believe, but reported more often than many would suspect.

As said, there's very little dividing how Trump won than how cult and fascist groups recruit. And the scary thing is, I can't tell if Trump knew what he was doing.

 

[Clark-Kent]

I hate to say it but the black shooting deaths ended up helping Trump. Let me give a reason before that looks like a crazy statement lol. The protests that came out of "Protest first, full facts later" mentality really did get under the white skin *pun* of some people. A feeling of continued division, and the defensive feeling that somehow the shooting instances represent white people getting blamed = that's it voting for change with Trump column. We can argue the validity of those who held the viewpoints, but regardless they still exist.

I really felt in some places President Obama missed the mark, but was in a tough place as first black President. Being asked to weigh in heavier on societal issues by the media than perhaps a white President would. Having the responsibility to the black communities, and wanting to show that you stand on their side.

It's a very tough balance, but even with that I feel when representing "All the people" of the country there has to be the overall vision of calming the rhetoric. Important as President I think to always make the mission to bring peace and lessen the division. It may not have been his intention to choose sides, but to some people it did come across that way. Some aspects of his Presidency beyond people just not liking Hillary in some cases - also factored in with result we had.

 

[samsnee]

I still can't decide what terrifies me more, a Trump presidency or a Pence one. Pence probably won't get us into a nuclear war, but gays and women would be second class citizens.

 

[TheCommissioner]

oh and also, allegedly the President-Elect likes his steaks

well done


JCC

 

[Kyle]

A Holocaust survivor informs about the similarities and differences between Trump and Hitler. Says we're living in a much better time, however to still be cautious. Warns the greatest danger is not if Trump fails to implement what he wants, but if he succeeds which can bend the country more towards his way to allow for more radical fascist changes to be made. Very interesting article and very insightful since it comes from one who was there.

http://www.thewrap.com/holocaust-survivor-father-feels-president-trump/

 

[chamber-music]

I hate to say it but the black shooting deaths ended up helping Trump. Let me give a reason before that looks like a crazy statement lol. The protests that came out of "Protest first, full facts later" mentality really did get under the white skin *pun* of some people. A feeling of continued division, and the defensive feeling that somehow the shooting instances represent white people getting blamed = that's it voting for change with Trump column. We can argue the validity of those who held the viewpoints, but regardless they still exist.

Honestly I don't get why anyone would get defensive. I think you would have to have some serious race issues to look at those black protest of shooting incidents and read it as a attack on all white people. That is crazy.

People rushing to judgment or voicing an opinion without waiting for the facts is nothing new and it isn't limited to black people or shooting incidents. I'm not sure why these cases in particular would bother people anymore than any other incidents.

If Trump real wants ramp back up stop and frisk then more black shootings are probably going to happen. This will mean more protests and more civil disobedience. Things may escalate rather than decrease.

 

[TheCommissioner]

Ripples throughout the comic book industry

edited for profanity in article

 

[Marvolo]

oh and also, allegedly the President-Elect likes his steaks

well done


JCC

Ill never understand why someone spends money for a good steak and gets it cooked to a crisp.

 

[Marvolo]

Ripples throughout the comic book industry

*link deleted due to cursing*

To the artists that are boycotting the state's that went red...they aren't very bright are they? People voted for Trump in all fifty states. And a number of states, blue and red, were almost evenly split in the popular vote. The risk they face is going to be the same regardless of whether the state ultimately went to Trump or Hillary. They need to forget the myth that rednecks and racists only exist in certain states.