"Make America Great Again!": The TRUMP Thread!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 22

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The hyperbole in here is bemusing.

By the by, all 5 members of this little banded group having perks simultaneously hasn't been a reality for at least a decade. The inherent economic flaws in the EU's setup have been evident since Greece started going under, but the EU made no effort to take initiative to curb its decline, which effectively forces individual countries into making their own decisions.
You are taking it literally, and that's your mistake.
It was a metaphor

The all point was that we are all in this together and it's not good to run when the going gets tough.
If things are broken, we band together and try to fix it, not exit and leave others hanging.

Worst even is leaving and wanting others to give a pat on the back and keep things much as they are.
Basically, wanting all of the gains but none of the loss.

There would be no actual problem to Europe as an all if GB´s leaving didn't affected all countries involved, one way or the other.
This is not just GB's problem, but everyone's, since it affects the stability of the all EU.

Hell, it even affects GB as an union, since, at the time of the Brexit, Scotland and Northern Ireland talked about wanting the leave.
 
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The "Adam Ruins Everything" bit on the Electoral College is a good one.

Trump is just hypocritical on this whole thing. He once blasted Obama for not winning the popular vote, but winning the Electoral vote (which was wrong because Obama won both), but he'll take his own Presidency in any way it comes.

Always nice to see other people watch Adam Ruins Everything. The voting episode you mentioned, the car episode, diamonds, and forensic science episodes were all great.
 
I thought I would be more shocked, but I think I got all my horror out after he won the election.
 
I keep reminding myself of three facts.

1) He won't be president forever.

2) Most voters voted for Hillary.

3) I'm grateful I witnessed Obama's presidency. What a gift for every non-deplorable out there on our blue gem of a planet.
 
Unfortunately I have three hang ups:

1. He's president. He will always have been president. Even if he gets impeached. Every history book will show that America elected this horrible, unstable, garish man. This is a permanent stain on America's record.

2. He and his horrible views have been normalized. Trump may just be the beginning to something much worse.

3. A lot can happen in 4 years. Do you know how long Caligula reigned? Almost 4 years. 2000 years later, he's still a household name.
 
Are you implying that I've never shoveled someone? Like some sort of ****??? :argh:

Just like most of the alt right my skin color virtually makes me Alexander the Great.

Yes, I work in a cubicle and I wish I could get much hotter women but still...
 
Unfortunately I have three hang ups:

1. He's president. He will always have been president. Even if he gets impeached. Every history book will show that America elected this horrible, unstable, garish man. This is a permanent stain on America's record.

2. He and his horrible views have been normalized. Trump may just be the beginning to something much worse.

3. A lot can happen in 4 years. Do you know how long Caligula reigned? Almost 4 years. 2000 years later, he's still a household name.

this just all of this
 
Just like most of the alt right my skin color virtually makes me Alexander the Great.

Yes, I work in a cubicle and I wish I could get much hotter women but still...

You realize I was being sarcastic, yes?
 
he wasn't being sarcastic about the shovel though... I was... I've seen him do it. why do you think jokesonm3's post are so incoherent now?
 
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You are taking it literally, and that's your mistake.
It was a metaphor

The all point was that we are all in this together and it's not good to run when the going gets tough.
If things are broken, we band together and try to fix it, not exit and leave others hanging.

Worst even is leaving and wanting others to give a pat on the back and keep things much as they are.
Basically, wanting all of the gains but none of the loss.

There would be no actual problem to Europe as an all if GB´s leaving didn't affected all countries involved, one way or the other.
This is not just GB's problem, but everyone's, since it affects the stability of the all EU.

Hell, it even affects GB as an union, since, at the time of the Brexit, Scotland and Northern Ireland talked about wanting the leave.

Why should Britain or any other member state remain within a sickly and falling trade block? The EU treaties themselves make clear that anyone can leave. The origins of the EU are as a consensual customs agreement. Now it is a supranational quasi-government that militates against national self-determination and tries to punish anyone who wants to get out. There is anger and bitterness at Britain because it was one of very few significant net contributors to the EU' s budget. Fine, that's understandable if rather cheap and mercenary. But I cannot understand why you think the POTUS has a moral obligation to side with the EU rather than Britain in this.
 
President of the United States twitter account
January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again!
What's he insinuating at now?
I wonder. :o
 
Isildur´s Heir;34710945 said:
You are taking it literally, and that's your mistake.
It was a metaphor

The all point was that we are all in this together and it's not good to run when the going gets tough.
If things are broken, we band together and try to fix it, not exit and leave others hanging.

Worst even is leaving and wanting others to give a pat on the back and keep things much as they are.
Basically, wanting all of the gains but none of the loss.

There would be no actual problem to Europe as an all if GB´s leaving didn't affected all countries involved, one way or the other.
This is not just GB's problem, but everyone's, since it affects the stability of the all EU.

Hell, it even affects GB as an union, since, at the time of the Brexit, Scotland and Northern Ireland talked about wanting the leave.

Yeah, I know it was a metaphor, and it still doesn't work. Listen, I applaud your positivity and sense of cooperation, but you're mistakenly projecting your noble vision for the Union onto it, you're not explaining how it actually functions.

In theory, or maybe as part of their little sales pitch, the EU was supposed to be about communal prosperity. In reality it's worked out as anything but that. The EU's GDP comprises of 75% services and 25% goods, so the fact that free trade is possible within the zone is almost irrelevant since a minority of the GDP is generated as a result of manufacturing, transit or retail. What ends up happening is all the skilled labor from the Eurozone flocks to the countries like Germany, the UK, France, and Spain which ends up generating productivity for those countries but leaves all the others with almost zero economic growth. There is no communal prosperity because the way the Union is set up means all trade and labor must gravitate towards the bigger nations.

So not only do the smaller countries lose their skilled labor, but they also have to make contributions to the EU for the "benefits" - none of which are very relevant or that they actually end up enjoying. The EU has become a very sophisticated version of a protection racket, only the money that's being paid for protection generates zero benefit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union

Have a look at the average growth between 2004-2015, most countries are below 2%, which isn't amazing. Interesting little statistic, for a long time Portugal had the highest number of masters graduates per capita in the world, and they've also perpetually had one of the highest rates of unemployment in the EU, because there's no incentive for their labor force to stick around when labor mobility is so easy. The result is going to be that any of the Non-Nordic, non-founding member countries are going to continuously lose their own skilled labor, and the possibility for their own established services industry, while they continue to pay the Union exorbitant amounts for decreasing benefits. The only option is for the EU to drastically revamp itself, or for it to collapse slowly as more and more countries are forced to leave to try and better their economic prospects.

The EU in its current form isn't the default "correct" answer, if anything its outlived its usefulness and for any of the smaller nations to keep their heads above water they need to pursue economic policies that benefit them, not the cream at the top of the EU hierarchy. Trump backing a bit more individual sovereignty on this score is not necessarily a bad thing, despite him being a tool.
 
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He lost the popular vote so I'd say the people don't matter.
 
Seeing more people turn out at the protests than showed up for his inauguration gives me hope.
 
The only 'People' trump cares about is himself... (and probably his kids)... the rest of the American people are nothing to him. he's already ****ing them over and he's not been Prez for 24 hours
 
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