Manager fired for not opening on Thanksgiving

[Erzengel]

Fixed.

When I'm visiting Florida, there's 2 things I don't eat, pizza and bagels.

 

[Pink Ranger]

When I'm visiting Florida, there's 2 things I don't eat, pizza and bagels.

What about pizza bagels?

 

[Immortalfire]

Beauty of capitalism: The chain is absolutely free to do whatever it wants.

Beauty of free speech and media: This man is free to speak out and the media is free to report it to inform the consumer.

Beauty of capitalism 2.0: The consumer is free to boycott the chain and let them take a hit in their pocketbook for this jackassery.

God bless America!

 

[Victarion]

Bagel Bites is the proper term.

 

[Erzengel]

What about pizza bagels?

I like thin crust anyways.

 

[Immortalfire]

It is what it is.

Off topic: What the hell does this phrase even mean?

 

[C. Lee]

Yes, and that day is called The Tony Awards.

I've never watched them, so I'll have to take your word on that.

People can and do celebrate that every day too you know. And it doesn't mean this day you can't discuss what was going on then, before and after the massacre.

And again....you didn't get my point. And from your posts, I doubt you ever will.

The only one doing the cursing, "*****", angry, etc. is you.

If you think this is me being angry, you are sadly mistaken.

Off topic: What the hell does this phrase even mean?

Things happen.....

 

[PyroChamber]

If I wanted to have pizza for thanksgiving instead of cooking I'd at least get a deep dish pizza.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm a manager at a grocery store and I have to work tomorrow. Next year, assuming I'm still there, I'll have it off(unless the owners decide to close it). That's how it usually works with me. It sucks working on holidays, but this is my job. I have to deal with it.

 

[Motown Marvel]

I don't see what Pizza Hut did was wrong. They are a business, they made a business decision that they communicated across the company. Since when is Thanksgiving a moral-based holiday anyway? Typical first-world employee entitlement.

That stated, I would not eat at Pizza Hut because their food is bad, but that's besides the point.

Employee entitlement? These people are on the bottom performing an unglorious and clearly unrewarding job so everyone above them can make bank. I understand that's how companies work, but at least have some respect for your employees and allow them to enjoy a simple holiday with their families.

There needs to be a respectful relationship between employees and management. And this is an example of management not fulfilling their end.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I can understand the manager's feelings, but there are aspects to every job that are unpleasant. Even if he's morally correct, it still wasn't his call to make. I have a hard time believing that this is the only issue that resulted in the firing. It seems like there is more to this story.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Maybe people who could give a crap about that holiday or cooking a huge meal to celebrate the genocide of a people.

Oh **** we got a hipster here...

On the subject:

1.) This guy is a manager, by not opening, he is not performing his duty, thus warrants being fired

2.) WTF is Pizza Hut doing being open on Thanksgiving anyways???

3.) But then again, some places do need to be open on Thanksgiving. I admit I've done fast food on Thanksgiving before, mainly due to the "not everyone always has someplace to go for a home cooked meal" bit. There were times, living in Tennessee, where I didn't have any place to go for Thanksgiving, so I just hit the drive thru

4.) I've worked holidays before. It sucks, but it's not the end of the world.

Bottom line?

I agree that companies should close on Thanksgiving (and Christmas, and all over major holidays). Let employees be with their families.

On the flip side, this guy performed textbook insubordination. And life goes on after working a holiday. Not the end of the world.

Also - I really want some Pizza Hut pizza right now.

 

[SentinelMind]

yeah, this is all a sad trend. I can understand emergency services employees needing to work, but forcing low level retail to work is immoral and disrespectful. What's the point of calling it a Federal Holiday? Does that only impact Government Employees?
Of course, Christmas will be next.


Anyways, Happy Thanksgiving!!!!

 

[terry78]

You mean, thanks to the native americans for giving us this land?

Haha, that felt like the appropriate response in this thread.

 

[PyroChamber]

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/pizza-hut-manager-fired-after-refusing-open-thanksgiving-2D11665028

After being fired for refusing to open his restaurant on Thanksgiving, a Pizza Hut manager has his job back.

Tony Rohr, who worked his way up from cook to general manager at the company, was told it was mandatory to keep his Elkhart, Ind., store open on the holiday.

"I just decided I wasn't going to agree to it," Rohr said. "All of these people the whole year had been told they were going to have the day off."

Luckily for him, Pizza Hut stepped in and "strongly recommended" that the local franchise hire him back, saying the company respects "an employee's right to not work on a holiday."

Pizza Hut issued this statement Thursday morning:

As follow up to the situation in Elkhart, IN, we feel strongly that the situation involving our independent franchisee and the local store manager could and should have been avoided. We fully respect an employee's right to not work on a holiday, which is why the vast majority of Pizza Huts in America are closed on Thanksgiving. As a result, we strongly recommended that the local franchisee reinstate the store manager and they have agreed. We look forward to them welcoming Tony back to the team.

Rohr said that in his 10 years with the company, this was the first time any location had asked him to work on Thanksgiving.

Many spots are opening in an effort to squeeze out extra sales from holiday shoppers.

"They just said it was a competitive decision and that everyone was open, so we will be too," Rohr added. "I said, 'Why can't we be the company that stands up and says we care about our employees, and let them have the day off?'"

Rohr said earlier that he had no regrets about pushing back.

"No, not at all," he said. "I'm glad I did that."

Guess they're not as greedy as some thought.

 

[SentinelMind]

They are greedy...they are getting bad publicity. Wait until next year.

 

[chaseter]

I worked at a municipal water treatment plant (that means I made the water safe to drink that comes out of your kitchen sink)...they run 365 days a year...depending on conditions they can run 24 hours a day....holidays were just overtime pay to me. Would I have liked to be off from work that day, sure....but for most of my time there it just wasn't possible. We were always short handed....one time I worked 7 days a week for 4 and a half months straight because we had no one else to take over a shift....one winter in the middle of a giant snow/ice storm I worked the water plant for 3 days straight as the only person there, no one else could make it in.

My situation, as providing a public necessity, was different from running a restaurant that is probably one of many in a city. It's nice to be able to get time off for a holiday....but I can't see losing your job over refusing to work.

I don't remember a water treatment plant on the Flintstones.

 

[The Guard]

Well, this guy taught everyone an important lesson. Just keep complaining and complaining until your dreams come true.

 

[Immortalfire]

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/pizza-hut-manager-fired-after-refusing-open-thanksgiving-2D11665028

Guess they're not as greedy as some thought.

When bad publicity comes rolling, I've found most companies will do an about-face regarding whatever brought the bad to start with.

 

[jonathancrane]

I am happy the situation worked out to the guy's favor. Cases such as this are going to become more common, with Black Friday moving into Thursday (what will that make it? Grey Thursday?) Again, trying to criticize the companies for doing this is criticizing the nature of Capitalism. Capitalism does not care for the family unit, history, or people in general; it's all about cutthroat commerce (which is why I will be snagging my iPod mini tomorrow.)

 

[cheungcheung]

I'm a manager at a grocery store and I have to work tomorrow. Next year, assuming I'm still there, I'll have it off(unless the owners decide to close it). That's how it usually works with me. It sucks working on holidays, but this is my job. I have to deal with it.

All the grocery stores in my area seem to be closed.... Then again I live in Massachusetts where walmarts, etc. aren't allowed to be open on thanksgiving due to pilgrim laws

 

[Warhammer]

Whoa, I never knew that.

 

[cheungcheung]

Yea

The earliest any store can open in mass is Friday at midnight...

 

[Motown Marvel]

Well, this guy taught everyone an important lesson. Just keep complaining and complaining until your dreams come true.

Complaining? He stood up for something that was important to him, and stood up for his employees knowing full well it would result in his misfortune. He didn't whine and complain, he just said "no". Good for him.

 

[terry78]

What's the difference between complaining and standing up for something?