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Awesome news, I'm so glad it wasn't Tony Scott.
As reported on the SHH front page:
Not sure what to think about this. Hoped Campbell would have been back but Forster's list of movies all have gotten critical praise, so maybe this is a good thing.
I think overall everyone is concerned a little about the action. but if the guy can milk perfomances and do great story... isn't that enough to celebrate about? I mean the thing with CR is, it had a great story. Sure the action was great... but i liked have a subtle end to the villian in Le Chiffre. Now the sequence at the end with Vespers death... that was action but i think that he can make the sequences more about the emotion and story within the sequence much like Vesper's death and have the action take the background which i personally think is ok. Anyone else think it would be okay if the action was just in the background for the story, there was necessary but out when not?
As reported on the SHH front page:
Not sure what to think about this. Hoped Campbell would have been back but Forster's list of movies all have gotten critical praise, so maybe this is a good thing.
Precisely.I agree with you. Action has not often been the problem in Bond movies, it's often the story that was lacking.
Actually, I'd argue that TWINE was a bit worse in the action department. The Q Boat chase was excellent, mind you, but the rest of the action in that film was poorly conceived, poorly structured, poorly shot, and poorly edited (the caviar factory is really a trainwreck of an action scene... just shots of people firing guns and Bond jumping from explosions, rather than a coherent action sequence).Only in DAD the action, with crappy CGi effects and amateurish camera works, genuinly sucked.
Exactly, and I'm sure he understands that. It was undoubtedly the exciting direction of CASINO ROYALE that attracted him, and I think he'll be more than happy to take on this edgier 007. I don't think a director of Forster's caliber would have been interested in another return-to-formula adventure.There is one thing however that Forster has to udnerstand early on: James Bond is first and foremost a spy, he is not a guy pushing buttons. So no need for supercars.
Sure it does, and we don't know anything. There is speculation. YOu can't know anything about an uncertain script. Forster is a prestigous director. It isn't common practice in Hollywood for a director of that nature to finish up someone elses' work.
I knew when we saw the list a few weeks ago they wouldn't have the balls to go for Tony Scott but i'd hoped for Proyas as second choice,still i guess this guy deserves a shot,he is good at drama and may well have an eye for action that he just hasn't had a chance to show yet.
How so? CASINO ROYALE was still a far cry from FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE. And I don't mean that as a slight... CASINO ROYALE's my favorite Bond film of the lot, but there's definitely plenty of room to trim back the action and up the suspense and character development.
Same here.I could actually even do with less action in FRWL. The helicopter and especially the boat sequence feel like unnecessary tags to me. I'd be happy with them not being in there and the fight with Grant being the action climax of the film.
Yeah. It won't happen, but hey, we can hope.But that opinion aside, it'd be great if 22 was like a modern FRWL.
Yup. I'll be happy as long as it remains on the CASINO ROYALE level (though I do think that BOND 22 will take it further... usually when a direction strikes gold, it's taken further in the follow-up).Well, they can try.
Action has never been the problem with the Bond films.....it has been the lack of a great story, tone, and DRAMA!
I knew when we saw the list a few weeks ago they wouldn't have the balls to go for Tony Scott but i'd hoped for Proyas as second choice,still i guess this guy deserves a shot,he is good at drama and may well have an eye for action that he just hasn't had a chance to show yet.
Good point.
Yup. I'll be happy as long as it remains on the CASINO ROYALE level (though I do think that BOND 22 will take it further... usually when a direction strikes gold, it's taken further in the follow-up).
Precisely.
Actually, I'd argue that TWINE was a bit worse in the action department. The Q Boat chase was excellent, mind you, but the rest of the action in that film was poorly conceived, poorly structured, poorly shot, and poorly edited (the caviar factory is really a trainwreck of an action scene... just shots of people firing guns and Bond jumping from explosions, rather than a coherent action sequence).
Exactly, and I'm sure he understands that. It was undoubtedly the exciting direction of CASINO ROYALE that attracted him, and I think he'll be more than happy to take on this edgier 007. I don't think a director of Forster's caliber would have been interested in another return-to-formula adventure.
I agree with you. Action has not often been the problem in Bond movies, it's often the story that was lacking. Only in DAD the action, with crappy CGi effects and amateurish camera works, genuinly sucked. And even then, it was more a symptom of the bad story, bad characterisation, etc. that we saw in that terrible movie.
In CR, as in the best Bond movies, the action help carried the story forward, they were not gratuitious and an end in itself. There is one thing however that Forster has to udnerstand early on: James Bond is first and foremost a spy, he is not a guy pushing buttons. So no need for supercars.
The action was lame in TWINE as well (except for the boat chase). Check out the finale; a laughably weak punch-up between a soggy Brosnan and Robert Carlyle.
Brosnan's movies really hit an action peak with TND; regardless of the quality of the movie overall, it had first class action scenes.
The only decent part of TWINE was the PTS.
In concept? Yes. In execution? Not so much.Well, the story was pretty good.