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MCU Fight: Ghost Rider (Agents of Shield) vs Abomination

MCU Fight: Ghost Rider (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D) Vs. Abomination

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We will be doing VS. battles for the MCU every week and will be using the Winners and Losers to create an accurate power tier list created by some of it's biggest fans (you). So don't forget to VOTE and after voting for a Winner please include a comment on which power tier, both the Winner and Loser should reside within. Also, see below for more details on the characters abilities as well as for a list of available power tiers to choose from.

Don't forget to put which Tier group you think Ghost Rider and Abomination belong to in your posts. :up:

So, without further delay here is this weeks match up.

Ghost Rider Vs. Abomination

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Ghost Rider

- Superhuman Strength: Reyes displayed a certain degree of superhuman strength, being able to overpower thugs, and massacring them without any effort, notably breaking men's skulls while bashing in their heads, even ripping another man's spine out. While transformed, Reyes could tear the bumper off a car with his bare hands. Ghost Rider was the first person to break out of a Containment Module, which held other super-powered beings, through brute force, an act that Leo Fitz claimed to be impossible. He was also able to overpower the super strong Jeffrey Mace and beat him close to death, and he managed to destroy a Life-Model Decoy of Anton Ivanov by throwing it several meters up in the air and smashing it against a column.

- Superhuman Durability:When the Spirit of Vengeance assumes control, he is almost invulnerable to harm or damage. He survived a firework factory explosion and remained conscious, unlike Hellfire who also survived but was knocked out. Also, when transformed, he was immune to I.C.E.R. shots, which merely bounced off him with no effect. Ghost Rider also resisted Aida's electrokinesis powers, being little if not affected by her energy blasts. He is also bullet proof and has even been impaled with carbon spikes by Eli Morrow and was completely unfazed.

- Regenerative Healing Factor: The supernatural energies that empower Robbie provides full recovery from any damage done to him. Though he received a cut on his face while battling Quake, these injuries disappeared the next day without even a scar. After getting a burnt hole in his face due to Hellfire's attacks and then transforming into Ghost Rider, he emerged afterward in his human form without any sign of being damaged at all. This means that transforming into Ghost Rider and then back to his human form can allow him to recover completely from damage instantly. Reyes has described himself as nearly impossible to kill.

- Fire Manipulation: As Ghost Rider, he is resistant to fire and seemingly no flames are capable of burning either him or his clothing. He is able to imbue a metal object he touches with fire, using the object as a melee weapon, which he has done to objects such as pipes, tools, car parts, and even chains. He can do so even without transforming into Ghost Rider. His control over fire allowed him to form a ring of fire around the car he crashed into with his own flaming vehicle. He also caused his car to catch fire to make Quake fall off it as she pursued him, with his eyes glowing bright orange and him letting out a monstrous roar. He even made his car heat up at will, burning the hand of a thug that put his hand on it. Additionally, he also caused an entire room to be engulfed in fire to burn Santino Noguera to death. It is confirmed that he can use hellfire when he burned AIDA's arm and she couldn't heal from the burn throughout the remainder of her lifespan, despite possessing Jiaying's healing factor.

- Incineration: Reyes is able to channel his fire to incinerate beings into ashes. He was able to set his entire hand ablaze while transformed to incinerate Frederick by touching him, which he did again to other ghosts, even in his human form and once with his flaming chain.

- Intangibility Cancellation: Unlike ordinary humans, Ghost Rider can touch non-corporeal entities, or at least individuals whose bodies are out of phase with the Earth realm. If the situation requires, he can hold them and completely incinerate them with his fire. He was able to grab Frederick by the arm and neck in his human form before transforming and burning Frederick into embers with his blazing hand, he was able to burn Vincent to embers with the Hellfire Chain, and he was able to do the same to Hugo with his touch, though in the latter events, he was able to do so without even transforming.

- Power Imbuing: Ghost Rider has the ability to imbue his power into inanimate objects, such as weapons, vehicles, etc.: He has used this power to make his car the Hell Charger become nearly indestructible. R. Moore fired a rocket launcher straight at the hood, all the rocket did was launch the car into the air and engulf it in flames, but neither the explosion, the fire, or crashing from several stories up had any effect on the car. It has crashed into other cars and even had a head on collision with an invisible Quinjet at full speed, without any harm such as scratches or dents.

- Inter-Dimensional Travel: Ghost Rider acquired the ability to generate portals to alternate universes and different dimensions during his time in a Hell dimension. By simply swirling his Hellfire Chain in a fashion similar to a Sling Ring, he creates a vortex that is enough to open the Inter-Dimensional Gate.

- Superhuman Agility: Ghost Rider is very agile. His supernatural augmented being allows him to maneuver quickly and perform stunts such as flipping around to attack the enemy.


Abomination

- Superhuman Strength: Immense strength enables him to hurl normal humans and cars great distances, easily tear through brick buildings, and even to kick Hulk through a building. Displayed noticeably superior strength to Hulk for a period of time. (Keep in mind, this IS canon, thus the same Hulk as from the Avengers, Age of Ultron, Ragnarok etc).

- Superhuman Speed: Due to the Super Soldier Serum Blonsky's speed was noticeably higher than that of an ordinary human. When running, Blonsky could easily outpace an army platoon, and even Hulk seemed to have trouble keeping up with him. Even after Blonsky was transformed, he is still able to move at speeds greater than of a normal human, as he was able to chase down a damaged Humvee with ease.

- Superhuman Durability: Abomination's bodily tissues, much like Hulk's, are substantially harder and more resistant to injury than the tissues of an ordinary human. His durability is enhanced to a high degree, and he apparently suffered no ill effects from burning and explosions. He was able to withstand high-caliber bullets and even Hulk's melee attacks.

- Superhuman Endurance: As a super-soldier, he was able to run faster and fight for a long time without tiring. As Abomination, Blonksy's highly advanced musculature produces vastly less fatigue toxins during physical activity than the musculature of an ordinary human. He is capable of physically exerting himself at peak capacity for several days before the build up of fatigue toxins in his blood begins to impair him.

- Regenerative Healing Factor: As a super-soldier, Blonsky's regenerative healing factor allowed him to recuperate from extensive injuries in the space of a day, including fractures throughout his entire skeleton. His super-soldier healing factor was much more advanced than any other recipient of the Super Soldier Serum, meaning that all the super-soldiers took different variants. This is proven by the fact that Blonsky regenerated from extensive physical traumas within the space of a day, whereas Rogers would take a week or less to recover from such injuries. After taking a blood transfusion from Hulk, his advanced healing factor was further enhanced, allowing him to heal at the same rate as Hulk, which is already a very high rate of regeneration. This makes him seemingly invulnerable and potentially immortal.

- Retractable Skeletal Spikes: Abomination possesses sharp spikes on his arms, elbows, back, and feet. These emerged through Blonsky's transformation acted as weapons when Abomination was in battle with Hulk. The sharp spike on his elbow was used to cause a deep wound on Hulk´s chest, cutting right through the latter's extremely durable skin.

*****Below is the SPECULATIVE list of power tiers to choose from, BLUE character names are official, RED character names are speculative.. Please select a power tier for each character (they're not in any particular order). Note: both characters can share the same tier.*****


Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)

Dormammu

Eson The Searcher (with Power Gem)

Ego The Living Planet


Odin

Surtur

Doctor Strange with Time Gem

Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale)]

Hela

Ultron Prime (Vibranium)

Kurse

Ronan (with Power Gem)

Fenris

Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)

Hulkbuster Iron Man

Thor

Hulk

Malekith (with Reality Gem)

Doctor Strange

Vision

Destroyer Armor

Giant Man

Kaecilius

Top Tier (Street to block level)

Aldrich Killian

Drax the Destroyer

Iron Man

Loki

Iron Monger

Ronan

Whiplash

War Machine

Scarlett Witch

Valkyrie

Heimdall

Sif

Hogun

Fandral

Volstagg

Korath The Pursuer

Quake

Groot

Killgrave

Yondu

Lash

Hive

Frigga

Pepper Potts with Extremis

Mantis

Skurge

Korg

Baron Mordo

Master Wong

Superhuman Tier (Street Level)

Captain America

Gamora

Spider-Man

Vulture

Black Panther

Red Skull

Winter Solider

Starlord

Eric Savin (Extremis Soldier)

Ellen Brandt (Extremis Soldier)

Quicksliver

Luke Cage

Iron Fist

Jessica Jones

Crossbones

Madame Gao

Mr. Hyde

Slingshot

Aida

Raina

Deathlok

The Patriot

Carl Creed the Absorbing Man

Lorelei

Nebula

Miek

Ant Man

Yellow Jacket

Street Tier (non super human, agent level)

Daredevil

Black Widow

Elektra

Hawkeye

Shocker

Batroc The Leaper

Rocket Raccoon

Coleen Wing

Falcon

Batroc The Leaper

Kingpin

Diamondback

Nobu

Bakuto

Peggy Carter

Sharon Carter Agent 13

Dum Dum Dugan

Mocking Bird

Maria Hill

Misty Knight

The Punisher

Nick Fury

Phil Coulson

Zemo


*****As I mentioned earlier, as fights occur an official tier list will be created and updated by me and that can be viewed here.*****

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=535009

So enjoy and we are looking forward to the first results. Spread the word.
 
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Abomination pummels Robbie until he's out of breath, then Ghost Rider stands up as nothing happened and decapitates Blonsky.

Both Powerhouse tier, Ghost Rider at the very top of it.
 
Another tough one. Unfortunately GR and his feats suffered from a TV budget, but there is no doubt this version is damn powerful. Will have to think about this.

Blonsky does have some sins GR would have a field day with however.
 
Ghost Rider wins cause of the pennance stare, and as a demon he seems to have no limits to the damage he can take.
 
Ghost Rider wins cause of the pennance stare, and as a demon he seems to have no limits to the damage he can take.

Yeah, have to agree with that. Abomination has no mystical powers, just raw strength and toughness. He just isn't equipped to fight GR ...so unless he finds a +1 sword lying around, he's going down.

What about Ultron Prime vs GR ? Ultron has no soul, and can GR cut through vibranium? Could Ultron 's energy weapons harm GR ?

GR vs Hela would probably be a curb stomp ( sorry GR) .

Dr Strange v GR would be entertaining, but GR would likely lose in the end.

Trying to think of who would be an even contest for GR, but it seems like he would crush mist non-mystical opponents and the MIC mystics would be too much for him ( except maybe Loki or Malekith, whom the penance stare would both fry !)

GR v Kurse ?
 
Yeah, I have to agree with others here. I can see a situation where Abomination leaps at Reyes and basically kills him by smashing him with his fists. Then Abomination gets up turns and starts walking away thinking the fight is over. Then on the ground you see Reyes half destroyed face light on fire and turn into the flaming Skull. Then Ghost Rider gets up and uses his chain in a similar fashion to the way Hulk used the Chain in the Incredible Hulk movie. Blonsky begins choking with the burning chain strangling him from behind, and Ghost Rider says something like I have come for your Sins. Then you see Abomination's body beginning to incinerate from the direction of the chain. They show a close up of Ghost Riders eyes and in the flames you can see Abomination screaming in Agony.

At least that's how I see it.

Surfer
 
It's tough. Does Ghost Rider have the output to put down Abomination?

I may not vote on this one, unless I see some pursuasive qrguments. But for now, I'm calling it a split
 
Yeah, have to agree with that. Abomination has no mystical powers, just raw strength and toughness. He just isn't equipped to fight GR ...so unless he finds a +1 sword lying around, he's going down.

What about Ultron Prime vs GR ? Ultron has no soul, and can GR cut through vibranium? Could Ultron 's energy weapons harm GR ?

GR vs Hela would probably be a curb stomp ( sorry GR) .

Dr Strange v GR would be entertaining, but GR would likely lose in the end.

Trying to think of who would be an even contest for GR, but it seems like he would crush mist non-mystical opponents and the MIC mystics would be too much for him ( except maybe Loki or Malekith, whom the penance stare would both fry !)

GR v Kurse ?

GR vs Kurse sounds good but remember we're placing characters against characters who are in the same power tier as them for now.

GR vs Vision would be awesome as well, but we can't match up two new characters anymore since we're trying to solidy our "power tier". We have to match up a new character vs a character we previously used already.
 
It's tough. Does Ghost Rider have the output to put down Abomination?

I may not vote on this one, unless I see some pursuasive qrguments. But for now, I'm calling it a split

I think that Ghost Rider's output is supernatural not super physics. He was able to break the SHIELD containment unit because of a goal. If his patron wants someone put down he will feed the Rider enough power to get it done. He did have to power up to survive a RPG hit and took out regular humans without pulverizing human skulls, which his punch should have done given other feats he has shown.

The question is if the Abomination, not Blonsky is a supernatural target for the Rider to go after, or the alternate theory that the Rider can not stop the Hulk because Banner is the target that the supernatural patron did not give the Rider a commission to go after
 
GR vs Kurse sounds good but remember we're placing characters against characters who are in the same power tier as them for now.

GR vs Vision would be awesome as well, but we can't match up two new characters anymore since we're trying to solidy our "power tier". We have to match up a new character vs a character we previously used already.

Exactly! Also, this is the reason it's important that people take a moment to comment on which Power Tier each character belongs in. We start our fights based on the speculative placement of characters that was created mostly by jaqua99, but also had input from BigThor and myself (Surfer). But it's important to understand that the three of us can be wrong with where we placed a character speculatively, and if there is enough votes by fans placing a character on another power tier than that's where they will be placed. Then their next battle would be in the new tier to see if they can move up or down against other placed characters. So, please take a moment to comment on tier placement. It's as important as the vote.

I think both rank Powerhouse Tier.

Thanks!

Surfer
 
I think that Ghost Rider's output is supernatural not super physics. He was able to break the SHIELD containment unit because of a goal. If his patron wants someone put down he will feed the Rider enough power to get it done. He did have to power up to survive a RPG hit and took out regular humans without pulverizing human skulls, which his punch should have done given other feats he has shown.

The only human he punched in the face was The Patriot who has superhumanly strength and durability due to the serum he takes.

GR one shot every ordinary human and even ripped out their spines and crush their skulls. He punched Daisy in the stomach, but she is also an Inhuman not a regular human. Oh and GR doesn't have a "patron" he is actually the demon Zarathos and he acts under his own perception of whether you are guilty or not.
 
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Ghost Rideris more powerful than people give him credit for in the comics, much more so in fact. It seems the same is being done to the MCU version.

As I said in my earlier post it seems a TV budget limited his feats a little, but he still did some very powerful things, and I don’t think Abomination would be able to beat him. So I am voting GR.
 
People please don't forget to leave a comment on which tier each character places in when Voting. Many people are forgetting to do this step and it is necessary to help the 3 of us doing the matches (BigThor, jaqua99 and myself) with tier placements. So, please try to remember to add this information in a comment when you cast your vote; otherwise it is left to the 3 of us to decide on their tier placements and while we feel we do a good job of it, this can never be as accurate as having a bigger pool to decide on the tier placements. So, please again take a moment to comment on where you believe both characters tier placements should be. We would appreciate it.

Thanks!

Surfer
 
I would put them both in powerhouse tier. I think Ghost Rider is close to Transcendent tier, but I think the ones listed in there largely would beat him, so I think he isn't quite there. Abomination and Hulk are about equals, so they are same tier.
 
I would put them both in powerhouse tier. I think Ghost Rider is close to Transcendent tier, but I think the ones listed in there largely would beat him, so I think he isn't quite there. Abomination and Hulk are about equals, so they are same tier.

Sounds about right to me. Thanks for providing your thoughts on Tier placements for these characters.

Surfer
 
Ghost Rider was the first person to break out of a Containment Module, which held other super-powered beings, through brute force, an act that Leo Fitz claimed to be impossible"

Who else has been held in there? A hulkish inhuman who kills inhumans, a 1 off episode generic Asgardian

I really like Robbie Reyes on the show but I'd have to rewatch his feats I certainly didn't think he was a match for Thor or Hulk
 
Ghost Rider was the first person to break out of a Containment Module, which held other super-powered beings, through brute force, an act that Leo Fitz claimed to be impossible"

Who else has been held in there? A hulkish inhuman who kills inhumans, a 1 off episode generic Asgardian

I really like Robbie Reyes on the show but I'd have to rewatch his feats I certainly didn't think he was a match for Thor or Hulk

This link that jaqua99 provided earlier not only discusses the feats in that forum, but at the top if you click on the feats section it opens up a whole bunch of videos displaying Ghost Rider feats in action. Link below.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/mcu-ghost-rider-respect-thread-1877143/

The thing about Ghost Rider is his Supernatural powers. So, he may not be on Thor or Hulk's level in terms of Physical strength, but he makes up for it by basically being pretty much indestructible and having the ability to turn to ash pretty much any physical character he touches (directly or indirectly), when judging them for their sins.

Surfer
 
Ghost Rider shrugs off a few attacks from Abomination and starts to turn the tide using his chain. Then outta nowhere GR rams him multiple times with his Hell Charger.

Just as Abomination lifts the hell charger and prepares to throw it, GR jumps out and blasts hellfire down his throat.
 
Dudes. Why is Scarlet Witch ranked below Vision, who she clearly owned in CW?

I think she should be much higher up, given that she took out Cap, Thor and Black Widow with her mental powers ( which the Russos pretended she didn't have in CW)

Given that her powers can affect both the physical world ( like throwing around a whole parking lot full of cars) and people's minds (including reading minds) she's a powerhouse.
 
Dudes. Why is Scarlet Witch ranked below Vision, who she clearly owned in CW?

I think she should be much higher up, given that she took out Cap, Thor and Black Widow with her mental powers ( which the Russos pretended she didn't have in CW)

Given that her powers can affect both the physical world ( like throwing around a whole parking lot full of cars) and people's minds (including reading minds) she's a powerhouse.

Keep in mind Scarlet Witch taking down Vision in Civil War had to do with her connection with and powers coming from the Mind Stone, which is the Source of Visions powers.

Also, keep in mind, both Vision and Scarlet Witch are currently only in a speculative placement on the list. We did our best to place these characters speculatively, but are all these characters in the correct tier placement? Maybe not. That is why when doing the battles it is important to leave comments on which tier each character belongs in. We then add the fan votes for tier placement to our votes for tier placement and average it out to see where the characters truly belong. The only problem is that sometimes people are voting for who wins but not commenting on tier placement, and then it is left to us (BigThor, jaqua99, and myself (Surfer) to decide on the tier they belong.

So, again people make sure to take a moment to tell us which power tier you feel each of the characters belong in. It's an important step towards us creating an accurate list.

Thanks!

Surfer
 
So. . . what evidence does anyone have for Ghost Rider being able to tolerate attacks anywhere approaching Blonsky's firepower? What evidence does anyone have for Ghost Rider being able to damage someone anywhere approaching Blonsky's durability?

"Magic" is not an, ahem, magic get-out-of-evidence-free card.
 
So. . . what evidence does anyone have for Ghost Rider being able to tolerate attacks anywhere approaching Blonsky's firepower? What evidence does anyone have for Ghost Rider being able to damage someone anywhere approaching Blonsky's durability?

"Magic" is not an, ahem, magic get-out-of-evidence-free card.

Durability: Ghost Rider tanked the Plutonium Blast that is the equivalent to a Nuclear War head going off. You can see it going off right before he teleports to an alternate dimension where the blast went with him. Link below.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111246198/5856804-3994950547-giphy.gif

Hellfire: I realize that Abomination has survived blasts including fire, but the Hellfire that Ghost Rider puts out does not burn people slowly like a typical fire, it incinerates them in a matter of seconds Bone and all.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111246198/5856660-6919725243-giphy.gif

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111246198/5856662-0434636161-giphy.gif

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111246198/5856661-6314858113-giphy.gif

I think that those are some of the best examples that to me indicate he could take Abomination. I hope that helps.

Surfer
 
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