MCU's Black Panther vs Cap vs Thor: Who's metahuman?

[MessiahDecoy123]

Which characters in MCU are metahuman and which are superhuman?

 

[Thör-El]

I thought Metahuman was DC's version of Mutants?

Thor's Asgardian. Cap and Black Panther are both enhanced humans.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I thought Metahuman was DC's version of Mutants?

Thor's Asgardian. Cap and Black Panther are both enhanced humans.

Hmm.

You could be right.

I always thought metahuman meant a human with moderately superhuman abilities.

 

[Chance Jackson]

Metahuman is largely a dc term for all who are empowered all 3 are empowered by human standards but Thor is not human

 

[metaphysician]

Yeah, "metahuman" and "superhuman" mean the same thing, there is no formal distinction. I mean, sometimes DC uses "metahuman" the way Marvel uses "mutant", but its hardly consistent.

All the three mentioned are superhuman. Thor gets an asterisk on that, since he's not actually human. However, since he's super by both human standards *and* Asgardian standards, he still counts in spirit.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Yeah, "metahuman" and "superhuman" mean the same thing, there is no formal distinction. I mean, sometimes DC uses "metahuman" the way Marvel uses "mutant", but its hardly consistent.

All the three mentioned are superhuman. Thor gets an asterisk on that, since he's not actually human. However, since he's super by both human standards *and* Asgardian standards, he still counts in spirit.

Good info, thanks.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Anyone know how Marvel trading cards and encyclopedias made distinctions between people like Black Panther/Cap/Spidey and Superman level strength/speed like Hulk/Thor/Thing?

I think I remember them simply stating the amount of tons a character could lift.

 

[metaphysician]

I wouldn't put much credence in those numbers. They usually have only coincidental relation with the characters as they are portrayed in the comics. Even the Shooter era HOTMU stuff was only *roughly* credible and consistent, and its been a long time since his iron-handed reign.

 

[LTuser]

I thought Metahuman was DC's version of Mutants?

Thor's Asgardian. Cap and Black Panther are both enhanced humans.

Is BP enhanced, or is it just cause he wears a vibranium suit?
Spidey - Altered (via the spider)
Hulk (altered)
FF4 (all altered)
Thor - alien (asgardian)
Cap - enhanced
IM - regular human augumented by his suit
Hawkeye - regular
Widow - regular
Wanda - super (magic)
Dr strange - super (Magic)
Vision - android
Falcon - regular augumented by his wing suit
Buckie - enhanced like Cap
Panther - i see as like stark.. Only 'enhanced cause he's got that suit.

 

[Tg11]

Thor is a god he is Asgardian so he would not be seen as metahuman or even superhuman because he is an alien but really he is a god

Black Panther is metahuman and same with Cap if you think about it

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Is BP enhanced, or is it just cause he wears a vibranium suit?
Spidey - Altered (via the spider)
Hulk (altered)
FF4 (all altered)
Thor - alien (asgardian)
Cap - enhanced
IM - regular human augumented by his suit
Hawkeye - regular
Widow - regular
Wanda - super (magic)
Dr strange - super (Magic)
Vision - android
Falcon - regular augumented by his wing suit
Buckie - enhanced like Cap
Panther - i see as like stark.. Only 'enhanced cause he's got that suit.

Black Panther gets a physical boost (speed, strength, agility) from the heart shaped herb similar to Cap and the super soldier serum.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Is BP enhanced, or is it just cause he wears a vibranium suit?


Hawkeye - regular
.

I still hold that the blind shots he took in The Avengers points to Hawkeye being something besides a highly train special forces/spy who prefers using a bow.

Black Panther is directly addressed in his movie. However he did take unarmored hits from Bucky in Civil War, but then so did Black Widow, Tony Stark and Agent 13. Perhaps Bucky was pulling his punches as he was done with killing.

 

[BigThor]

I still hold that the blind shots he took in The Avengers points to Hawkeye being something besides a highly train special forces/spy who prefers using a bow.

Black Panther is directly addressed in his movie. However he did take unarmored hits from Bucky in Civil War, but then so did Black Widow, Tony Stark and Agent 13. Perhaps Bucky was pulling his punches as he was done with killing.

Black Panther without his suit actually beat up Winter Soldier when no one else could. This was after Winter Soldier defeated a shieldless Cap, Black Widow, and Tony Stark.

 

[LTuser]

I still hold that the blind shots he took in The Avengers points to Hawkeye being something besides a highly train special forces/spy who prefers using a bow.

Then they need to address that. Cause from all we see, he seems to be regular, but very damn good..
And even his write up on the marvel cinematic wiki seems to show he is just regular (not enhanced), but is an ace marksman.

 

[BigThor]

thor and all the avengers are meta humans

Except for Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Tony Stark.

 

[Flash525]

Inhuman? Whilst I don't think Rogers, T'Challa or Thor are Inhuman, the label applies here; Wanda & Quicksilver were (for MCU purposes) Inhuman were they not? Mutants is a label exclusive to the X-Men Universe.

Rogers is just enhanced, as is T'Challa (though both mystic and technological means). Thor, for all invested purposes, is just an Alien, so his abilities can be explained away by that.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Inhuman? Whilst I don't think Rogers, T'Challa or Thor are Inhuman, the label applies here; Wanda & Quicksilver were (for MCU purposes) Inhuman were they not? Mutants is a label exclusive to the X-Men Universe.

Rogers is just enhanced, as is T'Challa (though both mystic and technological means). Thor, for all invested purposes, is just an Alien, so his abilities can be explained away by that.

Wanda & Quicksilver were activated by Loki's staff. Their being Inhuman and activated by the staff instead of terragin is an easy explanation as Inhuman should be the assumption for any human with weird powers at this point of the grand MCU story of 19 movies and 8 TV shows. However no one has ever given a definitive canonical statement of how they are able to do what they do.

 

[DrCosmic]

All of them? None of them? Those terms aren't used for MCU characters, and if we take them literally, every single one of them, Black Widow included, does things that are above what any real human can do.

What's interesting is that all of the Avengers are deemed 'enhanced' and required to sign the Sokovia Accords, which means, in the MCU, if you're good enough at fighting, you're considered beyond normal humans, which is a little bit cool.

 

[metaphysician]

Nah, it just means that the Accords cared about the Avengers' ability to act as a globally-relevant strategic power, moreso than the details of how they were able to do so.