Misconceptions of the Green Lantern

[Anubis]

i know next to nothing of how the gl characters are in the comic world but from what i read about various characters online and from what folks say each gl has their good and bad points about them. As for the film i am sure they will do good things with the gl characters and make them fresh and exciting characters to watch.

Well sure. That's the thing about a movie or a cartoon. You can pretty much change the character however you like. Like what Timm and company did with John Stewart.

 

[Anubis]

Or in the throat...

Ah, what a glorious day that was...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

haha what's that from?

 

[Anubis]

I'm going to guess secret Origin, but I could be wrong.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Its Robin, painted yellow, in room that has been painted yellow, beating the crap out of Hal Jordan after he's stolen his ring. Take a guess....

Spoiler

Frank Miller's All-Star Batman and Robin

 

[Ace of Knaves]

lol i thought All Star was crap? That picture leads me to believe it's ****ing awesome.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Some say that its Miller satirizing grimdark Batman. Others say that Miller had gone insane and writes whatever comes to his mind.
In any case, most people will admit that its fun as long as you dont take it seriously.

In that scene Batman wanted to meet Hal and he had Robin paint the room yellow. They even painted themselves yellow. Hal arrives and from the get go Batman is in his face insulting him and making fun of him. Robin steals his ring and then beats him up. In the Millerverse everyone sucks and is inferior to the almighty goddamn Batman.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

No, no! All star is crap, all right! Pure, fetid crap!
It's jim lee's artwork that's ****ing awesome!

 

[Ace of Knaves]

If it's satire, it's awesome.

If it's meant to be serious...?

Then another for Mr Miller.

 

[protocida]

It is. Superman is a bipolar man with God complex; Wonder-Woman is a sadomasochist feminist who only gets turned on by a good old punch in the face; Green Lantern is a complete idiot who stops his search for Batman in order to grab a hot-dog; Plastic Man is completelly useless; Batgirl is an incompetent version of Hit-Girl; Black Canary is a nymphomanic irish female Tyler Durden who has the hots for Batman and gets pissed when drunken men hit on her even tough she works in a bar whose skimpy outfit is a must; The Joker is an emo yakuza with a big dragon tatoo on his back, who likes to pick up chicks, bone them and kill them while thinking how much he loves Gotham City in his OWN. SPECIAL. WAY.

It's awesome!

 

[Ace of Knaves]

haha thanks man, imma try pick a few up then. Loves me some satire.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

If it's satire, it's awesome.

If it's meant to be serious...?

Then another for Mr Miller.

I think people are being altogether too kind to frank miller when they say it's satire, at this point in his career I genuinely think the guys lost his freaking mind.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Don't know if this was posted but, kids that watched JLU cartoon and don't read comics probably think that John Stewart is the only Green Lantern.

 

[Webhead2006]

well i hope the film does well for all the characters in the movie and treats the characters as they should be.

 

[protocida]

t:

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I think people are being altogether too kind to frank miller when they say it's satire, at this point in his career I genuinely think the guys lost his freaking mind.

hehe that totally wouldn't surprise me.

 

[thegameq]

I don't get it....

I'm no GL afficionado, but from listening to the GL fans on the hype, it's sounds obvious that Hal Jordan isn't much of a character. So other than the historical ties, why is he the main character for the movie rather than one of the more popular Lanterns?

Is his character really as boring and shallow as some of you are making him out to be?

 

[Mr. Earle]

It is. Superman is a bipolar man with God complex; Wonder-Woman is a sadomasochist feminist who only gets turned on by a good old punch in the face; Green Lantern is a complete idiot who stops his search for Batman in order to grab a hot-dog; Plastic Man is completelly useless; Batgirl is an incompetent version of Hit-Girl; Black Canary is a nymphomanic irish female Tyler Durden who has the hots for Batman and gets pissed when drunken men hit on her even tough she works in a bar whose skimpy outfit is a must; The Joker is an emo yakuza with a big dragon tatoo on his back, who likes to pick up chicks, bone them and kill them while thinking how much he loves Gotham City in his OWN. SPECIAL. WAY.

It's awesome!

Sounds pretty funny (i've only read a few issues) but writing this kind of satire is easy. Its like the equivalent of fart jokes in Revenge of the Fallen. I mean i could do this just as easily.

If you want some classy and discreet satire on Batman, while also reading great stories, you guys should read Morrison's JLA. Its basically Morrison making fun of the overly grimdark and hax Batman. Searching for character development writers had brought him to the border of insanity and his stories were very dark during the 90ies. Morrison satirizes this in his JLA. Its like catching a kid smoking and forcing it to smoke the whole package so that it will never smoke again.

In just the first issue Batman sneaks in the JL tower and he basks that Superman didnt hear his heartbeat because of a new gadget he invented. Morrison also introduced "tt" and "hh", sounds batman often makes when he is secretly boasting about something to himself. In another story Morrison tries to make fun of the Batgod and his preptime by giving him a secret room in the batcave, filled with alien technology such as UFOs, weapons and nanotechnology. And so on.

Unfortunately nobody got the joke at the time and because the series was successful, the other writers continued to write Batman that way with terrible results. "Morrison said that Batman has a room filled with nanotechnology. What if he uses it to program the human race and extinguish crime?"

Thankfully Morrison later took over the Batman book and turned it away from grimdark. He even gave Batman psychotherapy via a spiritual procedure in Thibet.

I think that's a lot better than easy laughs on Hal because "lol he is stupeed", "Superman is an arrogant *****e" and "WW is a ****e".

 

[Webhead2006]

personally as i said i dont know much on any of the earth lanterns in the comics. But i dont think there is anything wrong with hal or the others.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I don't get it....

I'm no GL afficionado, but from listening to the GL fans on the hype, it's sounds obvious that Hal Jordan isn't much of a character. So other than the historical ties, why is he the main character for the movie rather than one of the more popular Lanterns?

Is his character really as boring and shallow as some of you are making him out to be?

Because Hal is the most loved GL out there and in his universe he is supposedly the best Lantern of his corps.

John Stewart and Guy Gardner have never assumed the role of the protagonist, while Kyle was Hal's successor and the new protagonist when Hal died.
But the thing is that Hal didnt stay dead for too long and he came back replacing Kyle as the GL of earth's sector. Besides, Hal was the first human to ever join the corps and before him humans didnt even know about it.

I suppose its like Barry and Wally, only that Barry has been dead for over 20 years and he recently came back out of ****ing nowhere and for no reason other than nostalgia.

Besides, i'm sure that they'll write a more interesting Hal than the comics one. With Reynolds on board, i'm sure they'll give him a RDJ Stark vibe.

 

[protocida]

Here's more "All-Star Batman and Robin" goodness t: :

This is Vicki Vale, ace reporter from the Gotham Gazette. She thinks Batman is a freak and has the hots for Bruce Wayne and Batman. Did I mention she's a ****E****E****E****E?

This is Black Canary, an irish barmaid and champion of female underground fight club. She has the hots for Batman. Oh, and she's also a ****E****E****E****E****E.

This is Wonder-Woman, princess of Themyscera and men hater (Or, as she likes to call it, "sperm sacks") in general. She does, however, loves to be smacked arround. Guessed it? ****E****E****E****E****E.

This is Alfred, 60 years old butler and soap opera star wannabe. His favorite thing in the whole wide world? ****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES!

This is Superman, the bipolar God Complex-ridden Metropolis Man of Steel. He sure knows likes himself some ****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES!!

 

[protocida]

But if there's someone who gets the ladies's motors going, that someone is the ****ing GODDAM BATMAN! ****ES****ES****ESSAVEHOTWOULDBERAPEVICTIMS****ES****ESSEXONTHERAIN****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES!!!!!

So, yeah. ****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES****ES!!

 

[Wesley Dodds]

I never got the hal hate... He's essentially Han solo with superpowers! I mean, what's NOT to ****in love!?

 

[Mr. Earle]

Superman only punched her? I would have incinerated her with heat vision.

Btw, i really like her tiara with the nose protection. JMC you're reading this?

 

[Anubis]

I don't get it....

I'm no GL afficionado, but from listening to the GL fans on the hype, it's sounds obvious that Hal Jordan isn't much of a character. So other than the historical ties, why is he the main character for the movie rather than one of the more popular Lanterns?

Is his character really as boring and shallow as some of you are making him out to be?

It's really the result of a rather unfortunate status quo shift. You see, Hal died. He went nuts, killed almost all the GL's, absorbed the entire main battery, and tried to remake the universe in his image, then died saving the solar system. Reigniting the sun or some bulls**t. Probably the best thing the character ever did that didn't involve Green Arrow. Gave him depth. You saw how far a man would go if he lost everything. Then came Rayner. The last GL. Given a ring seemingly at random by the last Guardian of the Universe. Told, "Eh, you'll do." And left to his own devices.

Now, skip ahead a little less than 15 years, and all of a sudden, Hal's back. Guess what? The whole going nuts and destroying the GL corps? Not. his. fault. Fear demon you say?!? Wow. So, guess what? Hal's back. All is forgiven. Lets just stick Rayner and the rest of the GL's in one book and call it a day.

What happened is, and this is much like the Barry Allen Situation, that an entire generation of comic readers grew up on Rayner. Then, all of a sudden, this boring relic, whose most redeeming quality was his decent into madness and death (erased through retcons I might add) is back. Everybody else is s**t outta luck. Long live the Silver Age.

So, it's not that everybody hates Hal. Far from it. It's a 50/50 thing. All you've really heard from so far is people who simply prefer the other GL's. Who knows where the Hal fans are right now. Cuz when all this s**t went down, the Green Lantern threads in the DC comics forums was not a place you wanted to be. Like cats and dogs in there.

Now I myself am an Alan "F**king" Scott man. So, whatevs.

None of this really matters though cuz a movie is a whole other kinda animal. Hal could actually be interesting. Same for Barry Allen if they ever get that Flash movie off the ground.