Mississippi teen prevents school bus shooting

[The Guard]

Good for him.

I'm a bit puzzled as to why, if he 6'4 and 255 lbs, and was capable of tackling her, he didn't just overpower and grab the gun from her in the first place instead of tackling her, which could have ended very badly.

What was she, Miss Universe?

 

[Crook]

So let's say he tackles her but he hits her too hard and breaks her jaw? He tries to pull back and doesn't hit her hard enough and she manages to shoot 8 people? The tackle fails, he takes a bullet and so do 10 other people on the bus?

All kinds of things could've gone wrong in that situation because he doesn't have actual professional training all he had was a bug up his but and the desire to not get shot. Doesn't mean that what he did was smart or right.

Even if the cops might have not been able to respond quickly it doesn't change anything. He still endangered other people's lives by taking action in a situation that he had no business taking action in.

You can conjure up similar situations for any event of intervention. Professional or not. One could just as easily argue that had no one done anything, there would be 100% probability people would have gotten shot if she desired to follow through.

The teen's logic was simple; an act cannot be stopped if everyone just sits and watches.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

So let's say he tackles her but he hits her too hard and breaks her jaw? He tries to pull back and doesn't hit her hard enough and she manages to shoot 8 people? The tackle fails, he takes a bullet and so do 10 other people on the bus?

If its and buts were candies and nuts....Bottom line, it didn't happen.

All kinds of things could've gone wrong in that situation because he doesn't have actual professional training all he had was a bug up his but and the desire to not get shot. Doesn't mean that what he did was smart or right.

He has training on how to tackle.

Even if the cops might have not been able to respond quickly it doesn't change anything. He still endangered other people's lives by taking action in a situation that he had no business taking action in.

Their lives were already in danger.

Good for him.

I'm a bit puzzled as to why, if he 6'4 and 255 lbs, and was capable of tackling her, he didn't just overpower and grab the gun from her in the first place instead of tackling her, which could have ended very badly.

What was she, Miss Universe?

She may have tried to pull the trigger as they were wrestling for the gun. Tackling is more of a surprise. It's probably more fun, too.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Not at the high school I went to.

Maybe my school was an anomaly, but it didn't have the "jock", "cheerleader", "nerd" clicks.

Yea, sure, there were clicks, but none were really more accepted than the others. A lot of them even intermingled.

I was probably more of the "nerd" type, but I was friends with a lot of the "jocks", and "cheerleader" / "prom queen" types, as well as some of the "loners" and "goths".

My school was nothing like the stereotype portrayed in TV and movies.

Same with mine.

Everyone was friends with everyone, but there was still tight knight groups.

 

[Manic]

My school was way too big to have the social hierarchy you see on TV. You usually knew other people in similar/rival cliques (band, choir, and drama clubs were all close; the football, basketball, and wrestling teams knew one another, ect.), but there were 4,000 kids at my school all wanting attention. I didn't even know who the hell the kids on the student council were-- I honestly voted by how frequently I saw their "vote for me" posters hanging around campus. I knew who the star football players were (they later got kicked off of their college football team due to steroid use) and the class president (mostly because we went to the same middle school, so she also knew who I was), but that's about it.

 

[Majic Walrus]

You can conjure up similar situations for any event of intervention. Professional or not. One could just as easily argue that had no one done anything, there would be 100% probability people would have gotten shot if she desired to follow through.

The teen's logic was simple; an act cannot be stopped if everyone just sits and watches.

The teen's logic was faulty.

If its and buts were candies and nuts....Bottom line, it didn't happen.


He has training on how to tackle.


Their lives were already in danger.



She may have tried to pull the trigger as they were wrestling for the gun. Tackling is more of a surprise. It's probably more fun, too.

Bottom line is this, what he did could've further endangered people's lives and shouldn't have been done. It shouldn't be done in the future either. And having football training doesn't mean you have the ability to take down a crazy girl with a gun.

 

[Manic]

Oh, for god's sake.

What he did was incredibly stupid, and he could've gotten himself and everyone else on that bus killed. Can we agree on that?

Things worked out for the best, anyway. Can we agree on that?

He's a stupid hero. Case closed.

 

[katie_girl09]

This kid was stupid. Both of them. The girl was stupid for committing her crime but the football star was just as stupid for trying to be a hero. Fortunately it paid off, but it doesn't mean that it was right.

He should've waited for police to intervene instead of taking the situation into his own hands and possibly making it a lot worse than it already was.

You're just jealous.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Wow

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20090902/NEWS/909020371/Athlete-wrests-gun-from-girl-on-bus

He's got some kinda guts

Amazing.... good for him. That's f***ing brave of him.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

That's awesome. He did the right thing, I'm proud of him.

It wasn't just other familes on that bus, his family, all younger siblings, were on that bus too. I bet he was only protecting them but in the long run, was protecting everyone.

Oh and, I can almost promise the vidya will be on the internet soon enough.

 

[CelticPredator]

Not necessarily. Most jocks are a-holes and pick on people because they think it's cool. They are also full of themselves. Trust me, jocks have a history of being invovled with school shootings.

Untrue. Most people who I hang out with are jocks. I'm the nerdy kid. No one gives me real **** about it. Maybe in jest.

You must do something to provoke them if they dont like you.

 

[BatMatt]

There's nothing wrong with jocks, it feels like such a dated and stupid term anyway. I mean, I knew very few people in school that didn't at least participate in one sport. I believe boys and girls each had ten to choose from where I went, so there was plenty of variety. I make fun of lots of people, sometimes so much so that they transferred colleges, but it has nothing to do with my history in playing sports

 

[bullets]

You do know that not all jocks are *****ebags and that's just a high school stereotype?

Not in my high school experience.

 

[Manic]

I imagine it's probably a lot more likely at smaller high schools that put a lot of emphasis on their sports teams. If your school is either too big for the majority of the student body to care about the athletes or has terrible sports teams, then I imagine the jocks don't have the power to be *****ebags.

 

[CelticPredator]

If you're that weird that people give you ****...stop being so weird.

 

[enterthemadness]

So let's say he tackles her but he hits her too hard and breaks her jaw? He tries to pull back and doesn't hit her hard enough and she manages to shoot 8 people? The tackle fails, he takes a bullet and so do 10 other people on the bus?

All kinds of things could've gone wrong in that situation because he doesn't have actual professional training all he had was a bug up his but and the desire to not get shot. Doesn't mean that what he did was smart or right.

Even if the cops might have not been able to respond quickly it doesn't change anything. He still endangered other people's lives by taking action in a situation that he had no business taking action in.

I can see your point. But someone had to do something. You have a pissed of teen girl with a gun on a school bus. If no one does anything, at least 1 person is dead. Yeah, it was a risk with what he did...but it worked out and it was most likely the right thing to do. Unless if the driver were to slam on the brakes, which could either A) make the girl fall AND THEN someone take the gun from her or B) cause her to shoot all over the place while falling.

That kid is a hero yo. Also, no way in hell was any cops gonna get there in time to stop this girl.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I can see your point. But someone had to do something. You have a pissed of teen girl with a gun on a school bus. If no one does anything, at least 1 person is dead. Yeah, it was a risk with what he did...but it worked out and it was most likely the right thing to do. Unless if the driver were to slam on the brakes, which could either A) make the girl fall AND THEN someone take the gun from her or B) cause her to shoot all over the place while falling.

That kid is a hero yo. Also, no way in hell was any cops gonna get there in time to stop this girl.

We don't know that at least one person would die. The kid no doubt acted bravely, but brave and dumb go hand in hand. It was a bonehead move regardless of the outcome.

 

[Darthphere]

So you're saying it could've been like Speed where the crazed Mexican shot the bus driver?

 

[Majic Walrus]

Yeah. Except in real life Keaneu Reeves wasn't on the bus and buses can't fly!

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Yeah. Except in real life Keaneu Reeves wasn't on the bus and buses can't fly!

The Magic School Bus can fly.

 

[Majic Walrus]

The Magic School Bus can fly.

And turn into a submarine! Man that show was kickass.