Mom teaches 9 yr daughter about sex by letting her watch

[Lord Doom]

Mostly by a christian's standards but otherwise I am to be considered a "realist". t:

I think you're f#%ked, and I'M not a christian.
Then again, there's nothing wrong with being f#%ked.

 

[kytrigger]

While form the sound of it, the woman wasn't trying to do anythign wrong, but I still don't agree with her. Like most, I think the girl is a little young. And while I understand that hands-on learning can be the best sometimtes, it isn't always the case. I wouldn't teach my kid that murdering is wrong by going out and killing someone in front of them. And I don't think this girl will go up emotionanlly scared or anything, I just don't agreee with the parenting.

 

[Crooklyn]

It's not on the top of -your- list. Maybe it's theirs?

I'm talking about the girl. That's not something she has to be worried about for a while.

And even if we're talking about the parents, what possible reason could they have for introducing full-on intercourse to this child at such a young age? Their "excuse" of educating her is such bullsh1t, they just wanted to f**k and didn't care who was around.

and here, my opinion is, it's their life-style. Their business. They didn't harm, nor force the child. They chose not to shoo her away. No problemo.

Can you honestly say that'd be your exact reaction if the girl was your daughter, or someone you were close with?

 

[Won '08]

While form the sound of it, the woman wasn't trying to do anythign wrong, but I still don't agree with her. Like most, I think the girl is a little young. And while I understand that hands-on learning can be the best sometimtes, it isn't always the case. I wouldn't teach my kid that murdering is wrong by going out and killing someone in front of them. And I don't think this girl will go up emotionanlly scared or anything, I just don't agreee with the parenting.

Bingo. I don't Agree with it. But I don't agree with them being punished for it either.

It's their business. Though I wouldn't do it my self, I wouldn't condemn these people for it.

 

[AndThePickles]

And even if we're talking about the parents, what possible reason could they have for introducing full-on intercourse to this child at such a young age? Their "excuse" of educating her is such bullsh1t, they just wanted to f**k and didn't care who was around.

I agree. And I think that watching her mother screw around with her boyfriend is much too graphic for a young girl.

 

[Won '08]

I'm talking about the girl. That's not something she has to be worried about for a while.

And even if we're talking about the parents, what possible reason could they have for introducing full-on intercourse to this child at such a young age? Their "excuse" of educating her is such bullsh1t, they just wanted to f**k and didn't care who was around.


Can you honestly say that'd be your exact reaction if the girl was your daughter, or someone you were close with?

Can I honestly say it'd be my exact reaction?

No. I already said I wouldn't do the same.

If it were -my- child. I wouldn't have done it. Thats just not how I was raised.

If it were someone I was close to, I'd be like "wow thats pretty interesting" and keep it moving.

 

[PhotoJones]

Can I honestly say it'd be my exact reaction?

No. I already said I wouldn't do the same.

If it were -my- child. I wouldn't have done it. Thats just not how I was raised.

If it were someone I was close to, I'd be like "wow thats pretty interesting" and keep it moving.

dude, i'm a pretty liberal guy, but the one thing i do agree with most people on is protecting kids.

i have NO qualms with that mother and her boyfriend rotting in jail. protecting kids is THE most important thing we as a society have to do.

 

[Won '08]

dude, i'm a pretty liberal guy, but the one thing i do agree with most people on is protecting kids.

i have NO qualms with that mother and her boyfriend rotting in jail. protecting kids is THE most important thing we as a society have to do.

So theres a lack of protection going on in the crib cus she saw mommy and her man-friend go at it?

Sigh. Im going to go roll up and blow down some trees. I need to be high for this discussion.

 

[Lord Doom]

While form the sound of it, the woman wasn't trying to do anythign wrong, but I still don't agree with her. Like most, I think the girl is a little young. And while I understand that hands-on learning can be the best sometimtes, it isn't always the case. I wouldn't teach my kid that murdering is wrong by going out and killing someone in front of them. And I don't think this girl will go up emotionanlly scared or anything, I just don't agreee with the parenting.

That's pretty much how I feel. Only thing is, IT WAS ILLEGAL. They're going to jail either way. They should've known what the consequences of their actions would be. I'm not saying I agree with what they did, I'm just saying, "Why do it in the first place?" I understand that they wanted to "educate" their little ****e, they just should've thought it through. You don't go around having sex in front of children without thinking about what's gonna happen in the future.

 

[PhotoJones]

So theres a lack of protection going on in the crib cus she saw mommy and her man-friend go at it?

Sigh. Im going to go roll up and blow down some trees. I need to be high for this discussion.

she didn't just see it man...her parents SHOWED her. there's a HUGE difference.

and yeah that's a lack of protection.

 

[kytrigger]

That's pretty much how I feel. Only thing is, IT WAS ILLEGAL. They're going to jail either way. They should've known what the consequences of their actions would be. I'm not saying I agree with what they did, I'm just saying, "Why do it in the first place?" I understand that they wanted to "educate" their little ****e, they just should've thought it through. You don't go around having sex in front of children without thinking about what's gonna happen in the future.

I actually agreed with most of what you were saying, until you randomly called the little girl "****e"....

 

[kytrigger]

dude, i'm a pretty liberal guy, but the one thing i do agree with most people on is protecting kids.

i have NO qualms with that mother and her boyfriend rotting in jail. protecting kids is THE most important thing we as a society have to do.

If it can actually be proven that weren't in any way trying to harm the girl, then I don't think they should really be put in jail. I do think that the child would need to be in the custody of her father instead though.

 

[PhotoJones]

If it can actually be proven that weren't in any way trying to harm the girl, then I don't think they should really be put in jail. I do think that the child would need to be in the custody of her father instead though.

it doesn't matter if the child was harmed or not. the laws are in place to protect those kids that ARE harmed.

 

[Lord Doom]

I actually agreed with most of what you were saying, until you randomly called the little girl "****e"....

That's obviously what her parents are raising her to be. Teaching her how to have sex at 9 years old?! And doing it in front of her?! What do they expect her to be when she gets older?
The girl's probably thinking, "Wow. If sex is so important to my mommy, maybe I should have it as much as possible..."

 

[kytrigger]

That's obviously what her parents are raising her to be. Teaching her how to have sex at 9 years old?! And doing it in front of her?! What do they expect her to be when she gets older?
The girl's probably thinking, "Wow. If sex is so important to my mommy, maybe I should have it as much as possible..."

Or, they were trying to show her that sex is a normal part of life and were trying ot take the mystery and allure out of it so she wouldn't just go trying it herself just out of curiosity.

It's the same as letting a younger kid have a very small glass of wine at dinner. Not only do they feel more like a grown-up and act more mature, but it shows them that there is no huge wonderful mystery about alcohol so they are less tempted to try it randomly with there friends after school.

I highly doubt they were thinking 'lety's raise our daughter to be a ****e", they were actualyl trying to help teh kid understand something. Unfortunately, they did it a a very wrong way IMO.

 

[Lord Doom]

Or, they were trying to show her that sex is a normal part of life and were trying ot take the mystery and allure out of it so she wouldn't just go trying it herself just out of curiosity.

It's the same as letting a younger kid have a very small glass of wine at dinner. Not only do they feel more like a grown-up and act more mature, but it shows them that there is no huge wonderful mystery about alcohol so they are less tempted to try it randomly with there friends after school.

I highly doubt they were thinking 'lety's raise our daughter to be a ****e", they were actualyl trying to help teh kid understand something. Unfortunately, they did it a a very wrong way IMO.

You're right. They probably didn't THINK they were raising their daughter to be a ****, but that's probably what's gonna happen. Let me ask you, are you a guy or a girl?

 

[kytrigger]

guy

 

[Lord Doom]

guy

Have you ever seen a pornographic film before?

 

[kytrigger]

yes

 

[Lord Doom]

yes

When you watched your FIRST pornographic movie, what was going through your mind?

 

[kytrigger]

When you watched your FIRST pornographic movie, what was going through your mind?

I honestly don't remember. i didn't see one until I knew all about sex.

 

[Lord Doom]

I honestly don't remember. i didn't see one until I knew all about sex.

I was thinking "Wow. I really want to do that." And I'm guessing that you were thinking something along those lines. Now, if a little girl sees her mommy (whom she probably idolizes) in the middle of an act that appears to be VERY pleasurable to her mom, wouldn't she be thinking, "Mommy seems to enjoy it. She does it a lot. Maybe I should do it to."
It's a kind of peer presure, which children at that age are HIGHLY susseptible to, only the presure is more of a suggestion (maybe I worded that wrong) and the peer happens to be someone the girl adores and probably tries to be like. Now, if the mother had told her daughter, "You should never do this until you find someone you love," or "You should wait until AFTER you're married before you try this," then that would be fine. But she probably didn't (or maybe she DID, hell I don't know) and the little girl is gonna grow up thinking that sex is some wonderful and inconsequencial act that she should do whenever she gets the chance.
The point is, the mother wasn't teaching her daughter about the safeties of sex or even the beauty of it. She was teaching her how to HAVE it.

 

[kytrigger]

I was thinking "Wow. I really want to do that." And I'm guessing that you were thinking something along those lines. Now, if a little girl sees her mommy (whom she probably idolizes) in the middle of an act that appears to be VERY pleasurable to her mom, wouldn't she be thinking, "Mommy seems to enjoy it. She does it a lot. Maybe I should do it to."
It's a kind of peer presure, which children at that age are HIGHLY susseptible to, only the presure is more of a suggestion (maybe I worded that wrong) and the peer happens to be someone the girl adores and probably tries to be like. Now, if the mother had told her daughter, "You should never do this until you find someone you love," or "You should wait until AFTER you're married before you try this," then that would be fine. But she probably didn't (or maybe she DID, hell I don't know) and the little girl is gonna grow up thinking that sex is some wonderful and inconsequencial act that she should do whenever she gets the chance.
The point is, the mother wasn't teaching her daughter about the safeties of sex or even the beauty of it. She was teaching her how to HAVE it.

But we don't know that. I see what you're saying, but the mother could have just as easily been telling her daughter things like "only do this with someone you love". Like you said, we simply don't know.

As for the porn, you're right that I probably was thinking "I want to do that", but I was much older, knew actually knew all about sex, and had gone through puberty and actualyl had a libido, somethign the girl in all likelihood is missing.

Once again, I don't agree with the mom in how she was teachign the girl about sex, but like you said, children are very susceptible to suggestion, and if the mom did actualyl talk to her about sex and how it was special and only for married people to do it, then there is just as good of a chance that the girl won't grow up a total ****.

I also think some people here aren't giving children enough credit. Children are actualyl much better at handling mentally difficult situations than most people think. If she actually didn't like seeing the sex (which is a possibility) there is still an extremely good chance that it will not mentally scar her for life like some are thinking it would, which I hope is the case and the child turns out fine. In fact, a lot of what we consider mentally traumatizing events for children don't hurt them nearly as much as the aftermath when they see their friends and family have changed because of them.

 

[Lord Doom]

But we don't know that. I see what you're saying, but the mother could have just as easily been telling her daughter things like "only do this with someone you love". Like you said, we simply don't know.

As for the porn, you're right that I probably was thinking "I want to do that", but I was much older, knew actually knew all about sex, and had gone through puberty and actualyl had a libido, somethign the girl in all likelihood is missing.

Once again, I don't agree with the mom in how she was teachign the girl about sex, but like you said, children are very susceptible to suggestion, and if the mom did actualyl talk to her about sex and how it was special and only for married people to do it, then there is just as good of a chance that the girl won't grow up a total ****.

I also think some people here aren't giving children enough credit. Children are actualyl much better at handling mentally difficult situations than most people think. If she actually didn't like seeing the sex (which is a possibility) there is still an extremely good chance that it will not mentally scar her for life like some are thinking it would, which I hope is the case and the child turns out fine. In fact, a lot of what we consider mentally traumatizing events for children don't hurt them nearly as much as the aftermath when they see their friends and family have changed because of them.

Indeed.
BTW, I was kidding around when I called the girl a "****e" which is why I put ****e in quotation marks. Otherwise I agree with you completely.

 

[kytrigger]

Indeed.
BTW, I was kidding around when I called the girl a "****e" which is why I put ****e in quotation marks. Otherwise I agree with you completely.

Yeah, I just think that this is one of those cases where the mom was actually trying to be a good parent, and just screwed up royally. At least the girl is with her father now, and hopefully he isn't having sex in front of her.