Mother gets 5 years probation for spanking child.

[E-Man]

I have a feeling that the grandmother doesn't like her. That's why she called the cops. It's probably some beef between the mother and the grandmother's son that the grandmother got involved to such stupid levels as calling the cops for spanking. I wonder how big the red marks are, and what is the kid's skin tone. If the kid is light then it could get red marks easily from anything. This is such a dumb case.

 

[Harls]

Apparently, in Texas, domestic corporal punishment is illegal. What the punishment for punishment should be is debatable.

There are a fair number of studies which claim that spankings not only don’t work but also have negative long-term effects. From Wiki:

When some people become parents, they can use whatever kind of studies they want to base their parenting styles on. However, when I become a parent I plan on spanking my kids if they do something very wrong. This is why I believe the law shouldn't be in on this simple discipline method, unless the parent is abusing the child. A simple "no-no" spank is not abuse.

Personally, I was spanked as a child -- not often, and you know why? 'Cause I straightened up pretty fast. They didn't hurt (at most a momentary sting), but a spank was more of a symbol of, "You did something completely unacceptable/really bad" and I knew I better not do that thing anymore.

I happened to respond to spanking when I was very young and no longer acted out. Some children need verbal warnings, some need time outs, some need to get grounded -- the point is, not every method of discipline works with every child. To remove spanking as one of the options is purely ridiculous.

 

[Hound55]

Apparently, in Texas, domestic corporal punishment is illegal. What the punishment for punishment should be is debatable.

There are a fair number of studies which claim that spankings not only don’t work but also have negative long-term effects. From Wiki:

Bare minimum I'd have added a disqualifier "can" before the "have negative long-term effects".

Any study which attempted to claim more than that would be hyperbole.

 

[JewishHobbit]

This is rediculous. I whip my kids with my hand as needed, more when they were younger, and now that they're 5 and 7, I only do it maybe 4 times a year.

Call me a bad parent and send me to jail but at least I did my job right and my kids are well behaved sweet children who respect their elders and other kids that they play with. They're happy, confident, and loving... something that my friends who don't whip can't say the same about when it comes to their kids.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I was spanked.

I deserved it when I got it.

I turned out just fine.

Case = ridiculous, I hate this place sometimes.

 

[Dr.]

Bare minimum I'd have added a disqualifier "can" before the "have negative long-term effects".

Any study which attempted to claim more than that would be hyperbole.

Yes, that’s a fair clarification. For the more measured and “official” wording, I would defer to the quotes from the professional bodies that I cited in my post.

I was spanked.

I deserved it when I got it.

I turned out just fine.

Case = ridiculous, I hate this place sometimes.

And drunk, you might very well be a better/safer driver than many sober folks. And your two-pack-a-day grandfather may live cancer-free to age 100. But general health recommendations and many laws are based on statistical trends and evidence, not anecdotes.

 

[Immortalfire]

"You don't spank children today," said Judge Jose Longoria. "In the old days, maybe we got spanked, but there was a different quarrel. You don't spank children."

Judge Longoria is an idiot.


Parent: "Oh I don't believe in spanking"

Yeah, well be prepared to have a loudmouth, whiny, dumbass kid.

 

[Yurka]

I was spanked as a child, I will spank my children as well.

What the hell is happening to my country... and Texas of all places...

 

[DarkKnight88]

Yikes I guess my parents would've got the death penalty.

 

[Paroxysm]

I was spanked as a child too and look how I turned out! Oh wait! My parents didn't have to spank me or my brother. We listened to our parents.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

And drunk, you might very well be a better/safer driver than many sober folks. And your two-pack-a-day grandfather may live cancer-free to age 100. But general health recommendations and many laws are based on statistical trends and evidence, not anecdotes.

What???!

 

[Dr.]

What???!

Just hypothetical examples to illustrate the suspect nature of anecdotal evidence.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Their many ways to raise a child. Kids who don't get spanked can grow to be just as bad as kids who do get spanked. I think you have to try many different ways untill you find the right one.

 

[Casius--J]

Well my parents always say not every child is the same, you have to discipline each one differently. I got spanked quite a few times but my younger siblings barely got any, but to be fair I needed them a lot more than they did lol

Whilst I think 2 is a bit young to be getting spanked I don't feel the law should have in place in the discipline of a child. Only when it turns to abuse is when the law the should intervene but outside of that never!

5 years probation is absolutely ludicrous

 

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

Oh I got spanked growing up and I deserved everyone of them. I should have got more because I got away with a lot of stuff. My kids get "disciplined" when needed. This is why kids are going crazy these days.

 

[Hotwire]

Judge is a dummy. Kids, I mean brats need spankings. I hated it as a kid, but now see that as a adult...only way to learn. My sisters 2 year old gets spanked a lot...doesn't learn though...kinda already has that "bully/I do what I want" side to him. For example, kid got in trouble for spitting at kids in daycare...

This is a prime example of spanking not working. If you are using it as punishment for the behavior, and the behavior in continuing, you need a new method.

Just because you don't spank your child, does not mean they will grow up to be a bad person. There are other contributing factors. Like, just not paying attention to the child.

 

[chaseter]

I got spanked, my kids will get spanked.

People wonder why our society has so many problems. Maybe it's because instead of spanking your kids to put fear and respect in them they get a 10 minute time out or no McDonalds??? No Xbox for 30 minutes Jimmy.

 

[Hotwire]

I got spanked, my kids will get spanked.

People wonder why our society has so many problems. Maybe it's because instead of spanking your kids to put fear and respect in them they get a 10 minute time out or no McDonalds??? No Xbox for 30 minutes Jimmy.

Sorry to see you've already given up on other options.
Those punishments may work on some kids. For me, just seeing disappointment is my father's eyes hurt more than any spanking I could have gotten.

Perhaps, instead of beating the bad behavior out of them, consistently reward good behavior, then the child sees they achieve better results from good behaviour, than bad.

 

[chaseter]

I have seen other parents try alternative options and their kids turn out to be *** holes. My siblings and myself and all of my cousins were all spanked and we all turned out just fine. Not getting to use facebook, your xbox, your cell phone, getting a timeout...those don't work. Those are all laughable.

Were your parents spanked? What about your grandparents? Were you spanked? If the answer is yes to those questions then there is no need to question it. It's foolish to think you know better than 3 generations of parenting. Yes all kids are different and it is always better to reward than to punish but lets face it, all kids act up now and then. They don't learn anything when they are allowed to sit and stew in the corner for 10 minutes. Kids learn more from a sore bottom than they do from a 10 minute timeout.

This is all my opinion. Hopefully my wife will feel the same way. I can't stand seeing kids acting up and their parents can do nothing because society has changed so much.

As kids grow up and they learn more from seeing disappointment from their parents then that is all good. A 7 year old kid isn't really going to learn a lesson from calling you a **** because he heard a kid at school say it unless they get a punishment that they will remember, that they will fear.

 

[JAK®]

Anybody who claims that they know a method of punishment that works on every kid is talking ****.

And that includes people who say that spanking never works.

 

[Hotwire]

One could make the same argument for not changing anything. If it worked for our parents and grandparents, who are we to try and improve upon it? I manage to control my autistic 3 year old daughter, and hormonal 13 year old daughter without resorting to hitting them. Do they act up from time to time, sure. Do I get the urge to spank, sure. But then I realize that striking my child will only serve to make them fear me, and that is not what I want. I want them to respect me, and fear and respect do not go hand in hand. Ask my wife. Her father was an abusive drunk. She feared him, but had no respect.

You teach respect, you instill fear.

 

[JAK®]

One could make the same argument for not changing anything. If it worked for our parents and grandparents, who are we to try and improve upon it? I manage to control my autistic 3 year old daughter, and hormonal 13 year old daughter without resorting to hitting them. Do they act up from time to time, sure. Do I get the urge to spank, sure. But then I realize that striking my child will only serve to make them fear me, and that is not what I want. I want them to respect me, and fear and respect do not go hand in hand. Ask my wife. Her father was an abusive drunk. She feared him, but had no respect.

You teach respect, you instill fear.

Good for you if you can discipline your kids without spanking. But not every kid is the same.

You don't understand spanking if you think it's about fear. You certainly don't understand it if you link it with abuse.

For the record, I wasn't spanked.

 

[Hotwire]

Anybody who claims that they know a method of punishment that works on every kid is talking ****.

And that includes people who say that spanking never works.

Well, enterthemadness showcased an example of spanking failing miserably. Not that spanking doesn't work in certain cases, just that there are other options. You're right, there is no one clear cut method. However, some seem to feel that spanking is the only option. It is not.

 

[Hotwire]

Good for you if you can discipline your kids without spanking. But not every kid is the same.

To say this, is to say that not every parent is capable of controlling their child without resorting to spanking.

You don't understand spanking if you think it's about fear. You certainly don't understand it if you link it with abuse.

For the record, I wasn't spanked.

Ever heard a kid say, "If my dad finds out, he's gonna beat the s*** outta me!" That kid fears his father, not necessarily respects him.

 

[JAK®]

To say this, is to say that not every parent is capable of controlling their child without resorting to spanking.

No it isn't. Some kids listen to reason. Some listen to spanking. Some kids just never listen at all. There are of course bad parents. But not all bad parents spank either.

Ever heard a kid say, "If my dad finds out, he's gonna beat the s*** outta me!" That kid fears his father, not necessarily respects him.

I've never heard a kid say that. But then again I've never known a kid that was beaten by his parents.