My take on how the universe got started.

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  1. Tyrone Parker The real black Spiderman

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    Imagine you were eternal and had infinite power. You could do anything you could possibly dream of. You might start by giving yourself every pleasureable experience you can imagine. But, after a time (considering that you're infinite) this might get boring. So what do you do? You then decide to give yourself more challenging, more undesireable experiences, only so that you may get yourself out of them, renewing your experience of the pleasurable.

    This you can do in an infinite number of ways, in an infinite number of forms, with varying degrees of intensity, infinitely multiplying your ability to experience your immeasurable power until you have what we now call the Universe. And this you've done and will do throughout all eternity because this is simply what you are: an endlessly creative and destructive force, constantly changing forms to experience an infinite number of possibilities.
     
  2. DarkSovereignty Ooga Chakka

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    I like to think that the universe was incubated in the womb of a giant cosmic squid.
     
  3. BlueLightning Caballero de la Luz

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    That's an interesting take, but that only works if this all-powerfull being is incomplete, in the sense that he needs other things to keep going, like the experiences you mention.
     
  4. Doctor Evo Registered

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    If you had infinite power, why would you need to engage in these exercises in order to feel pleasure? Would you not have the power to simply alter your own consciousness to experience perpetual pleasure?

    If you can't do that, then you don't have infinite power. I think this is a major problem with the scenario you've presented.
     
  5. Lighthouse Fairness, Equality, Bacon

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    Not to mention that this being has human/animal feelings and desires.
     
  6. Doctor Evo Registered

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    Does "infinite power" imply a lack of these characteristics, though? He didn't say the being would be perfect.
     
  7. Lighthouse Fairness, Equality, Bacon

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    No, but I just have a hard time imagining something that is "eternal" and has "infinite power" having common humanoid emotions and motivations.
     
  8. KevanG Pragmatic Villain

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    Some things are just jerks.

    That's why we have things like The Sims.

    You could give your sim everything it needs to be happy and healthy until the end of time ooooooor you could spend years murdering it and it's friends in various ways and driving it insane without it every understanding a reason why beyond "The universe moves in mysterious ways."
     
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    Weed makes you a genius.
     
  10. KevanG Pragmatic Villain

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    It doesn't for the people I know. It makes them jackasses and morons.
     
  11. Monsieur Xavier Guildsman

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    Everyone knows that Doctor Manhantan created our universe.
     
  12. Godzilla2000 Dollar Store Diva

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    Um...my answer is that God sneezed.
     
  13. Mike_D202 Green Lantern's roommate

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    I wonder what's outside of space.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. DarkSovereignty Ooga Chakka

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    I still stand by my cosmic squid idea...his name was borris.
     
  15. SuperFerret King of the Urban Jungle

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    I would think that altering your own consciousness would be a risky move, and personally, if I had infinite power, even if I could do it, I wouldn't.
     
  16. Doctor Evo Registered

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    Why?
     
  17. Doctor Evo Registered

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    *Psssst!* He was kidding.
     
    #17 Doctor Evo, Nov 30, 2012
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  18. SuperFerret King of the Urban Jungle

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    I don't get it, the last time I expressed this feeling, I got the same response, and it baffles me. How could it not be a risky thing to do? You're messing with your own consciousness, the very thing that makes you you. It's essentially an elaborate form of suicide, you're killing the you that was and replacing yourself with a different you.
     
  19. BlueLightning Caballero de la Luz

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    It is truly terrifying.
     
  20. Spider-Who? ERMERGERD!

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    If you are "infinite", then I imagine the concept of time has no meaning to you, since you exist outside of both space and time. Therefore you would not become "bored", so any desire to create based on an attempt to cure said boredom would never occur to you.
     
  21. Silvermoth Krakoan native

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    Spoiler warning: That's the truth. Now when do we start a church!
     
  22. TheWatcher Dapper

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  23. BlueLightning Caballero de la Luz

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    I think that covers more than the universe...
     
  24. Doctor Evo Registered

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    Let me frame this another way.

    What does "infinite power" mean to you?
     
  25. Doctor Evo Registered

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    This is an interesting argument, but if we extend this reasoning, then how could an infinite being do anything at all within the context of our universe?
     

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