N.W.A. Straight Outta Compton

That Daz thing is no rumor Pac admitted it, Suge did also as well as Kurupt and Daz and most others on the label at the time. As for point number 3 I agree but they way the portrayed it is that he just walked in and was shocked to see all this going on like he didn't know what was happening when he did. As far as the Tupac stuff I agree with as well. All I'm saying is it was far from an honest representation of them.

I don't think anyone is disputing whether or not it was a truly honest portrayal of them.

As for the Daz thing. I still take it with a grain of salt. I mean come one youre really going to take the word of Suge who hates Dre? Or Pac who at a time hated Dre and since being shot honestly had a lot of screws lose? And you know producing is more than just making the beat per say.
Snoop had this to say about it:
Dubcnn: So you're saying it's wrong that Daz or Warren G would claim that they didn't get the credit they deserved on The Chronic or Doggystyle?
I'ma say it like this: they didn't deserve the credit back then because they didn't do the work. They made beats, Dre produced that record. Point blank, and I'd say it in they face. They made beats, cuzz produced the record. If you a real n***a in the rap game, you'll understand what I'm saying. I can make a beat, but I can't produce! I can make a beat, but can I tell a n***a what to rap about, can I tell him when to come with the hook? Can you break the beat down? That's what producing is.

Dubcnn: Right, but if I brought in the beat, I would still want my name somewhere.
But, if you brought in the beat, that's all you did, was brought in the beat. You didn't produce this record. This song says "Produced by" not "brought in the beat by". Keep it real! So that's what nikkas got wrong, and they started pointing fingers and try to bad mouth him, when in actuality Dre doesn't need ya'll, ya'll needed him! Because this **** ya'll learned from him, that made ya'll better producers. He didn't learn **** from ya'll! See that's what nikkas don't understand! Before The Chronic, how many hit records did Dre have before that? Everything he made was a hit record right?

I seen him make tracks from scratch. My whole record the n**** made damn near everything from scratch. "Ain't No Fun", Daz and Warren G brought him the little *sings melody*, that's all they had! Dre took that muthaf***a to the next level! Warren G brought in the Donny Hathaway, "Little Ghetto Boy, laying in the ghetto streets." Dre flipped it like "Hold on, gimme that!" Took that muthaf***a and made it straight hit!
I do think Snoop was kinda trivializing Daz and others but still
(I don't know if I can post source link because it has cursing but look up Snoop Dogg July 2006 Interview)

Also do you have a link for where Daz or Kurupt said anything about Dre and ghost producing.
AND on top of all that, if Dre is a fake who uses ghost producers for success how come guys like Daz haven't had that much real success, at leat after the 90s in Daz's case?


Im confused why people keep wanting rumored things being addressed in this moive. It's like before the movie people were saying "I wonder/hope they address the Eazy E gay rumors". Why would they do that?

They left a lot of important stuff out/changed alot (Dre looking like a saint, Eazy coming off less sleazy than he might've been, MC Ren getting left out of a lot, etc.) but why would they address the rumors/theories. If they made a Beatles biopic should they address the Paul is Dead rumors with serious screen time?
 
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No. I am part of this culture. My issue is how pristine all the caps are. It looks phony and inauthentic. The anachronisms are also a sticking point. There is a lot being said about the opening scene, set in 1986, where Eazy-E wears a black-and-white White Sox cap (the Chicago White Sox did not change their uniform colors to white and black until the 1990s), but that isn't the only flub on the part of the filmmakers. It's lazy work, and it's eye-catching. It broke the narrative dream for me in a few instances.
What's so anachronistic about fresh looking hats on them? If you're familiar with the culture then you know, in a lot of cases, that's where the money goes regardless of their financial situation. As for the colors, you're nitpicking, and only eye catching since you're obviously well versed in those small details. All movies have these issues though.
 
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Just saw this last night. I loved it despite being overly watered down. The portrayal of the big 3 was really lightened up for the big screen. Hope one day we get more of a documentary biopic which shows the dirt on all of them.
 
What's so anachronistic about fresh looking hats on them? If you're familiar with the culture then you know, in a lot of cases, that's where the money goes regardless of their financial situation. As for the colors, you're nitpicking, and only eye catching since you're obviously well versed in those small details. All movies have these issues though.

Sure I'm nitpicking, but I don't understand why that is being used as a pejorative. That's what is done on a message board: we dissect the details. I heard some things about "authenticity" and "reality" in interviews from the filmmakers leading up to this film's release, and I'm saying they fell short of that standard. The costumes looked like costumes. Their attention to detail paled in comparison to mine, and I'm just the consumer.
 
Just saw this last night. I loved it despite being overly watered down. The portrayal of the big 3 was really lightened up for the big screen. Hope one day we get more of a documentary biopic which shows the dirt on all of them.

F. Gary Gray announced that a Director's Cut is coming.
 
Sure I'm nitpicking, but I don't understand why that is being used as a pejorative. That's what is done on a message board: we dissect the details. I heard some things about "authenticity" and "reality" in interviews from the filmmakers leading up to this film's release, and I'm saying they fell short of that standard. The costumes looked like costumes. Their attention to detail paled in comparison to mine, and I'm just the consumer.
I really didn't mean to come across as bite-y in that post. I actually think its cool you noticed that and it's something I'll be looking for when I watch it again.
 
What about the TV version? This film getting a major box office run should mean that some of the broadcast networks (and basic cable networks) will want to show this in syndicated form in the future. (Example: ABC, CBS, NBC, CW, Fox, FX, Spike, TNT, MTV, USA, etc.) Thus, it is an interesting proposition: How to edit a film into a syndicated version, taking into account the film’s cursing, racial epithets and casual nudity? Would there be reshoots, alternate scenes, redubbing of dialogue, etc.?

Note: This posting has nothing to do with the eventual showings on premium cable that will inevitably happen (Showtime, HBO, etc.)
 
:lmao: at those CNN headlines

I swear, they've become as bad as FOX
 
What about the TV version? This film getting a major box office run should mean that some of the broadcast networks (and basic cable networks) will want to show this in syndicated form in the future. (Example: ABC, CBS, NBC, CW, Fox, FX, Spike, TNT, MTV, USA, etc.) Thus, it is an interesting proposition: How to edit a film into a syndicated version, taking into account the film’s cursing, racial epithets and casual nudity? Would there be reshoots, alternate scenes, redubbing of dialogue, etc.?

Note: This posting has nothing to do with the eventual showings on premium cable that will inevitably happen (Showtime, HBO, etc.)


They've been doing it for years. Im sure they will be fine.

And by "fine" I mean terrible. I hate watching any movie on cable, but especially R rated films.
 
Side note:
Who was the original voice of the cop on trial in the “____ the Police” song?
 
THR:
MC Ren on 'Straight Outta Compton':
"Don't Let the Movie Fool You About My Contribution"





On January 27, 1991, at a record-release party for the rap duo Bytches With Problems in Hollywood, producer/rapper/then-N.W.A. member Dr. Dre brutally attacked Dee Barnes, the host of a well-known Fox show about hip-hop called Pump It Up! Dre was reportedly angry about a Pump It Up! segment hosted by Barnes that aired in November 1990. The report focused on N.W.A., and concluded with a clip of Ice Cube, who had recently left the group, insulting his former colleagues. Soon after the attack, Barnes described it in interviews: She said Dre attempted to throw her down a flight of stairs, slammed her head against a wall, kicked her, and stomped on her fingers. Dre later told Rolling Stone, “It ain’t no big thing – I just threw her through a door.” He pleaded no contest to assault charges. Barnes’s civil suit against Dre was settled out of court.

Barnes agreed to watch F. Gary Gray’s just-released film about N.W.A, Straight Outta Compton, and reflect on it for Gawker.
 
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Warner Bros.' Chilly Summer Puts Execs in the Hot Seat (Analysis)
Stephen Galloway said:
With two back-to-back summers in which Warners — typically the No. 1 studio in market share — had trailed at No. 3, this weekend seemed especially depressing. It wasn't just that Guy Ritchie's big-budget spy caper The Man From U.N.C.L.E. imploded with a $13.4 million domestic opening (hope that it might be redeemed internationally faded fast), it also was trounced by an urban rap biopic that Warners had put in turnaround — the $29 million Straight Outta Compton.

After years of development, New Line Cinema president Toby Emmerich and other top Warners executives reluctantly let Compton go to Universal, believing its budget was too high. (Emmerich mercifully was on vacation in Italy when the movie opened Aug. 14.) Universal reveled in its $60.2 domestic million opening. So did producers Dr. Dre and Ice Cube, each of whom reportedly deferred an estimated $2.5 million in fees and now will reap the benefits. And so, too, will Thomas Tull's Legendary Pictures, which caught flak for ditching Warners for Universal in 2013 but now has a 50 percent investment in Compton (and a big chunk of Jurassic World's $1.61 billion worldwide gross).
 
What about the TV version? This film getting a major box office run should mean that some of the broadcast networks (and basic cable networks) will want to show this in syndicated form in the future. (Example: ABC, CBS, NBC, CW, Fox, FX, Spike, TNT, MTV, USA, etc.) Thus, it is an interesting proposition: How to edit a film into a syndicated version, taking into account the film’s cursing, racial epithets and casual nudity? Would there be reshoots, alternate scenes, redubbing of dialogue, etc.?

Note: This posting has nothing to do with the eventual showings on premium cable that will inevitably happen (Showtime, HBO, etc.)
Variety:
‘Straight Outta Compton’ TV Rights Nabbed by FX
FX Networks has bought the exclusive U.S. commercial TV premiere rights to “Straight Outta Compton” following its $60.2 million opening at the U.S. box office.
 

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