MadVillainy
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That Daz thing is no rumor Pac admitted it, Suge did also as well as Kurupt and Daz and most others on the label at the time. As for point number 3 I agree but they way the portrayed it is that he just walked in and was shocked to see all this going on like he didn't know what was happening when he did. As far as the Tupac stuff I agree with as well. All I'm saying is it was far from an honest representation of them.
I don't think anyone is disputing whether or not it was a truly honest portrayal of them.
As for the Daz thing. I still take it with a grain of salt. I mean come one youre really going to take the word of Suge who hates Dre? Or Pac who at a time hated Dre and since being shot honestly had a lot of screws lose? And you know producing is more than just making the beat per say.
Snoop had this to say about it:
I do think Snoop was kinda trivializing Daz and others but stillDubcnn: So you're saying it's wrong that Daz or Warren G would claim that they didn't get the credit they deserved on The Chronic or Doggystyle?
I'ma say it like this: they didn't deserve the credit back then because they didn't do the work. They made beats, Dre produced that record. Point blank, and I'd say it in they face. They made beats, cuzz produced the record. If you a real n***a in the rap game, you'll understand what I'm saying. I can make a beat, but I can't produce! I can make a beat, but can I tell a n***a what to rap about, can I tell him when to come with the hook? Can you break the beat down? That's what producing is.
Dubcnn: Right, but if I brought in the beat, I would still want my name somewhere.
But, if you brought in the beat, that's all you did, was brought in the beat. You didn't produce this record. This song says "Produced by" not "brought in the beat by". Keep it real! So that's what nikkas got wrong, and they started pointing fingers and try to bad mouth him, when in actuality Dre doesn't need ya'll, ya'll needed him! Because this **** ya'll learned from him, that made ya'll better producers. He didn't learn **** from ya'll! See that's what nikkas don't understand! Before The Chronic, how many hit records did Dre have before that? Everything he made was a hit record right?
I seen him make tracks from scratch. My whole record the n**** made damn near everything from scratch. "Ain't No Fun", Daz and Warren G brought him the little *sings melody*, that's all they had! Dre took that muthaf***a to the next level! Warren G brought in the Donny Hathaway, "Little Ghetto Boy, laying in the ghetto streets." Dre flipped it like "Hold on, gimme that!" Took that muthaf***a and made it straight hit!
(I don't know if I can post source link because it has cursing but look up Snoop Dogg July 2006 Interview)
Also do you have a link for where Daz or Kurupt said anything about Dre and ghost producing.
AND on top of all that, if Dre is a fake who uses ghost producers for success how come guys like Daz haven't had that much real success, at leat after the 90s in Daz's case?
Im confused why people keep wanting rumored things being addressed in this moive. It's like before the movie people were saying "I wonder/hope they address the Eazy E gay rumors". Why would they do that?
They left a lot of important stuff out/changed alot (Dre looking like a saint, Eazy coming off less sleazy than he might've been, MC Ren getting left out of a lot, etc.) but why would they address the rumors/theories. If they made a Beatles biopic should they address the Paul is Dead rumors with serious screen time?
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