The Dark Knight New Joker Clip

[Tree27]

you can tell witch part it the model truck, but it gives it a crazy motion that sends chills down my spine X) I LOOOOOOVE IT!

 

[MysterioMenace]

I can't remember where, but Nolan had this great comment on a video interview about how the medium isn't important, and I totally agree with that. He's focused on making a good movie, not on paraphrasing a whole bunch of comic books that are great just the way they are.
So....NO....TDK is not based on a comic book; it's inspired by one. There is a huge difference, and - in this case - it was clearly the most effective route to go. I appreciate that you really enjoy Bat art, but this is Bat cinema. I mean... did you really ***** when Braveheart was totally incorrect to the history, or when Jurassic Park went outside the novel? No, of course not, because making a great piece of cinema is different than making a great piece of artwork or writing. And greatness is Nolan's only aim; that's what I respect.

Well said. I just feel there is also a level of respect you have to grant to the source material. Without it you wouldn't even have the film to begin with. Of course that’s not me saying Nolan doesn’t respect the comics. He undeniably respects them more then any of the past film directors. Just some feel he’s alters things too much sometimes. Not that he’s changed things beyond being recognizable, but you can reach a point where you’ve gotten rid of the entire attraction we all have to the character. Admittedly there is source material and Nolan would never deny that. I suppose you could claim that he’s more concerned with accurately representing the feeling and spirit of it all. The superficiality can be excluded so long as the themes and elements are retained. But…is it so wrong to want to see laughing gas in a comic book film? How is it so unrealistic in comparison to the terrorist-utilized fear gas? It’s the Jokers trademark! Batman fans are notoriously protective of the characters. I think a lot of it stems from all the mistreatment they’ve had in the past. There are many stigmas the character still fights against today. So I see nothing wrong with wanting to see more accuracy from a fantastical comic book. I see it as justifiable. And I suppose this is where we differ. I will always be (first and foremost) a comic book ally. The films are only a product of that main Batman medium.

 

[MessyPandas]

As much as i'm loving how this movie is turning out, that clip was a little boring and didn't flow well at all. Maybe because it was lacking a score which will hopefully make it into the final cut.

 

[Bat-Mite]

…Yah…cause a guy dressing up like a Bat and driving a tank is so real world. I see it regularly. Heck, my neighbor developed some fear gas in his basement. Pssh! What’s wrong with a fantasy world? It’s like Nolan doesn’t want to admit these are supposedly based off of comic books. Like he resents that. I resent that entire notion. Batman is a comic book. It is fantasy. Deal with it.

And the Tumbler has nothing on the Burton Batmobile. A Batmobile that looks like a Batmobiel...what a novel idea.

When has Nolan ever given the impression that he didn't want to admit they were based off of the comics? In particular, he's given very high praise to Frank Miller's Year One and The Long Halloween, even going so far as to say this film series is partially based on those comics. And Nolan's movies are very much based in a fantasy world. This has been covered many, many times on these boards. It's just that his fantasy world happens to have a "realistic" feel to it, similar to Blade Runner.

As for Nolan's batmobile, it looks VERY MUCH like a batmobile. Not only one that's taken from the comics, but one taken from what is arguably the most popular Batman comic book of all time.

Now, that might not be your preferred Batmobile, but it's a valid interpretation of the vehicle, nonetheless.

Admittedly there is source material and Nolan would never deny that. I suppose you could claim that he’s more concerned with accurately representing the feeling and spirit of it all. The superficiality can be excluded so long as the themes and elements are retained. But…is it so wrong to want to see laughing gas in a comic book film? How is it so unrealistic in comparison to the terrorist-utilized fear gas?

It's strange that you're making a fuss over this, when you've pretty much pointed out why Nolan isn't using the gas in this movie (at least, as I see it). He already had a villain using a specialized version of gas to attack the city in the first movie. Doing it again would have been repetitive. Now, some people wouldn't mind that kind of repetition. But me? I'm someone who was disappointed in Raimi using Doc Ock as the villain in Spider-Man 2, because they were using the mad scientist route twice in a row, villain wise. I wanted them to save Ock for later.

Anyway, the Joker is such a well rounded villain that he doesn't depend on his Joker Venom to make him a great character. He uses it a lot in the comics, yes, but it's not as if he uses it in every single appearance. I seriously doubt you'd throw a fit over the Joker not using his venom in a comic if he just had no reason to use it. He uses a plethora of weapons, and the gas is just one of them. This Joker uses machine guns, knives, and explosives, and there's definitely a justification in the comics for going that route with him. He's used all of those in the comics.

 

[bdaythug]

As much as i'm loving how this movie is turning out, that clip was a little boring and didn't flow well at all. Maybe because it was lacking a score which will hopefully make it into the final cut.

i think that clip is very surreal feeling w/ no score to it. i think it kicks ass!

 

[MessyPandas]

I agree its surreal. But i felt without the music there was no tension. Perhaps its because where effectively jumping into the clip with no buildup which the movie will give us, but i definitely didn't feel as excited as i have been from all the other clips released.

 

[Rocker22]

Great clip!

 

[Marvolo]

The clip is impressive.

But someone on the first page made a comment about how The previous Batmobiles aren't as tough as the Tumbler.

And while that is technically accurate, it just brings up my one and only complaint about "TDK" ... Really it's a complaint about the Nolan Bat-Films collectively.

I'm really tired of fans using Nolan's movies as an excuse to s**t all over the proceeding Batman movies.

Now I'm as excited about "The Dark Knight" as the next fan, but I can't stand it when some new detail comes up...and there's ALWAYS that one person that has to point out how said detail is "sooo much kewler than those Burton/Schumacher flicks."

Can't we just appreciate and enjoy "The Dark Knight" without taking a crack at the other films?

Just a suggestion...

CFE

Well, considering the others, besides parts of Burton's original Batman, are pure garbage they are making a fair and accurate argument. Take the batmobile from the older movies, those things can not work when designed like that. Something that long can not take a turn for **** at anything more than 70mph. Physics says its impossible. So its a valid argument to say the Tumbler kicks all theother batmobiles ass's.

P.S. I apologize to anyone who likes the original Batman film as a whole, but I only like parts of it.

 

[MysterioMenace]

When has Nolan ever given the impression that he didn't want to admit they were based off of the comics? In particular, he's given very high praise to Frank Miller's Year One and The Long Halloween, even going so far as to say this film series is partially based on those comics. And Nolan's movies are very much based in a fantasy world. This has been covered many, many times on these boards. It's just that his fantasy world happens to have a "realistic" feel to it, similar to Blade Runner.

As for Nolan's batmobile, it looks VERY MUCH like a batmobile. Not only one that's taken from the comics, but one taken from what is arguably the most popular Batman comic book of all time.

Now, that might not be your preferred Batmobile, but it's a valid interpretation of the vehicle, nonetheless.It's strange that you're making a fuss over this, when you've pretty much pointed out why Nolan isn't using the gas in this movie (at least, as I see it). He already had a villain using a specialized version of gas to attack the city in the first movie. Doing it again would have been repetitive. Now, some people wouldn't mind that kind of repetition. But me? I'm someone who was disappointed in Raimi using Doc Ock as the villain in Spider-Man 2, because they were using the mad scientist route twice in a row, villain wise. I wanted them to save Ock for later.

Anyway, the Joker is such a well rounded villain that he doesn't depend on his Joker Venom to make him a great character. He uses it a lot in the comics, yes, but it's not as if he uses it in every single appearance. I seriously doubt you'd throw a fit over the Joker not using his venom in a comic if he just had no reason to use it. He uses a plethora of weapons, and the gas is just one of them. This Joker uses machine guns, knives, and explosives, and there's definitely a justification in the comics for going that route with him. He's used all of those in the comics.

You talk very condescendingly. I don’t appreciate it. Do you think I don’t know all this?

Firstly…you repeatedly say I’m making a fuss. Since when? I’ve specifically written that I’d have not minded the gas, but it’s not something I especially needed. I’d much rather have had comic accuracy over interpretation. That’s me personally. But this is a film and departures are inevitable. The comic book continuity is something else entirely. The lacking of the gas doesn’t ruin the film for me. Very far from! Please don’t exaggerate for the sake of arguing. I’m not especially bothered and I’m well aware of Joker using knives, explosive, and firearms in the comics. I’m far from opposed to that. He doesn't depend upon the gas...and neither do I. My issue stems from personality changes. Superficial things I can get passed, but I’m somewhat concerned that this Joker will be overly serious. I stand by the Joker requiring a sense of humor, otherwise he‘s just a one-dimensional killer in a medium when homicidal madmen are a dime a dozen. I’m fearful that Nolan didn’t retain that enough. Only time will tell.

Secondly; I’ve never considered the tank featured in Dark Knight Returns to be a Batmobile. I’ve considered it just that; a tank. A so-called “bat” tank! A Batmobile is something else entirely. It’s like saying the Bat copter (now there’s an old reference) and the Batwing are basically the same because they both fly. Well…no they’re not! The Tumbler is a composite of more traditional Batmobiles and the tank featured in Frank Millers story. I’d personally much rather have something akin to the Burton Batmobile and I’m hoping that something similar will be featured in later sequel. I don't dislike the Tumbler, but it's easily not the most popular "Batmobile."

Finally; You’re right! The Dark Knight Returns being the most popular Batman story is very arguable.

 

[Schlosser85]

I actually like that it doesn't have any score, it makes it seem more gritty, in my opinion. It reminds me of the car chases in The Terminator movies.

 

[Bat-Mite]

I agree its surreal. But i felt without the music there was no tension. Perhaps its because where effectively jumping into the clip with no buildup which the movie will give us, but i definitely didn't feel as excited as i have been from all the other clips released.

I thought the lack of music in the scene was a good thing. The truck the Joker was in sounded like a roaring monster, which I thought was very fitting. It's something that would have been lost if music was there to cover it up.

 

[Octoberist]

I agree its surreal. But i felt without the music there was no tension. Perhaps its because where effectively jumping into the clip with no buildup which the movie will give us, but i definitely didn't feel as excited as i have been from all the other clips released.

i say don't put music in it. it feels different. dude, watch movies from the 70s, where there are barely any music in the movies of that said era. it's great.

 

[Marvolo]

I like having no music for this chase. It makes it more real. I like just hearing the gunfire, the explosions, and crashes. It's going to sound amazing in the theatre.

 

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

That clip was freakin awesome!!!

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Can't wait to see this scene in the context of the movie with the proper setup.

 

[ArcXIX]

t:

 

[Anita18]

'Bazooka' is more fun to say than 'RPG'.

" he's gonna need something a lot bigger to get through this "

* joker takes out RPG *

"What is that, a bazooka?!"

BOOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fixed. t:

Awesome clip. Someone should place all the leaked clips in order. Im pretty sure the entire movie has been shown on this site already.

Hah, nope. It's still only 20 minutes of a 2.5-hour film.

Because in the real world, sometimes Batman just has to take on a garbage truck.

Regarding the topic of the driver of the Garbage truck.....

I just went back and re-watched the clip, and if you pause it when it shows the driver duck you can clearly see he is a Joker goon as he is wearing a clown mask.

So Bats is kicking ass, instead of injuring innocent people.

You're right. I was wondering why he was going after the garbage truck too.

I love how the Tumbler just throws off the garbage truck. t:

And the Tumbler has nothing on the Burton Batmobile. A Batmobile that looks like a Batmobiel...what a novel idea.

But a Batmobile is not a real car. No company has made or sold it, so it doesn't have a real-world equivalent. It's not the same thing as Alfred mentioning Bruce driving a Lamborghini and you see him driving a Porsche instead.

"Batmobile" is any artistic interpretation of Batman's car. Whether you're adamant in it having the traditional comics look or not, is your opinion.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Isn't the Tumbler just a PROTOTYPE for the Batmobile? Something that he uses until he has to get the ACTUAL Batmobile?

Remember, this is Batman: Year Two, in a sense; he's still something of a rookie at this, despite his successes in Batman Begins.

Complaing that the Tumbler doesn't look like the Batmobile strikes me as the same type of complaining about Daniel Craig as Bond in Casino Royale - of course he's not suave yet - he hasn't become THAT Bond yet. He's in the larval stage of Bondess, just like the Tumbler is a larval Batmobile, so to speak.

 

[CrashNburn]

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/07/11/dark-knight-exclusive-clip/



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thanks! you're the best!

that video was amazing. i'm dying to see this movie.

 

[Symbiotic]

Isn't the Tumbler just a PROTOTYPE for the Batmobile? Something that he uses until he has to get the ACTUAL Batmobile?

Remember, this is Batman: Year Two, in a sense; he's still something of a rookie at this, despite his successes in Batman Begins.

Complaing that the Tumbler doesn't look like the Batmobile strikes me as the same type of complaining about Daniel Craig as Bond in Casino Royale - of course he's not suave yet - he hasn't become THAT Bond yet. He's in the larval stage of Bondess, just like the Tumbler is a larval Batmobile, so to speak.

No.

 

[ronny]

The comic book Batmobile is usually very silly. Even in The Killing Joke, it looks foolish. Is there a decent version of it? Something that actually adds to Batman's dark, shadowy persona rather than being decorated with gaudy fins?

 

[secretsquirrely]

No.

Actually there's no proof to support whether it is or isn't. That all depends on how TDK pans out and if Nolan feels like strapping on the fins and gadgets to the Lambo in the third installment or not. As we all know

Spoiler

the Tumbler gets blown the **** up in this film

So the chances of him getting a new "bat mobile" is always there. The only thing that truly supports the Tumbler being the permanent Batmobile is that in the BB game they label it as the "Batmobile" in the mission modes..however they might have also done this to not confuse idle fans who just wanted a new Batman game.

 

[Hole Shot]

If Nolan is going to make a third film Batman's mode of transportation is going to have to be something fresh he if plans to out do the chase scenes from this film.

 

[fu manchu]

that clip was awesome. t:

Zomgz!!!! I Just EJACULATED!!!!

i can't imagine what you'll say when you see an actually naked girl/boy.

 

[Marvolo]

Let me just say that I have always despised the batmobile in every form and incarnation up until BB. The tumbler is a logical design that agrees with what physics says is possible, and doesn't look goofy. Fuss at me and disagree all you want but this is how I feel. I know some will say 'but its a comic and it doesn"t have to agree with physics' well I disagree. Because this isn't a comic its a film and an entirely different medium, and while showing respect to the source material is important, you have to remember, it is easier to read about something and just take it as it says it is, but when you see something it takes alot more for a person to suspend disbelief. The batmobile has always failed at that in the films until now. The only thing that Tumbler did that it shouldn't have was drove across rooftops. Tho, this is a discrepency in the physics of roof weight distribution and support and not the physics of what the tumbler can and should not do.