'New' Lair Screens (Possibly from the same batch seen in Oct)

[imdaly]

Everyone knew about the optional hard drive installs on Neogaf and even mentioned the mandatory installs of NBA, but from what I can tell those are the only two games that stupidly make the harddrive install mandatory.

"NBA 07" and "Full Auto" are the only two that are up in the GB range and up for required HDD installs. Interestingly, they are the only two 1080p games so far.

Remember Sony's always telling us about the power of 1080p games on the PS3 and trying to make it sound like before long just about every PS3 game will be 1080p. Which makes me wonder, if that's somehow true, will we soon be using up over 2 GB of HDD space for each PS3 game we want to play? This seems to only be a big problem with the 1080p games.

Did that stupid Sega Racing game require an install on the 360?

No 360 games require HDD installs, as none of them are limited, ironically, by Blu-ray. The 360 can read the info on the discs fast enough.

This REALLY makes me curious as to what the install size will be for Oblivion once that hits PS3...

 

[Zenien]

We don't even know if Oblivion will have a required install but if they do it's a good thing FOR A streaming intensive game like Oblivion as Hard Drive read rates outpace any mass market optical drive out there by a notable amount. It wouldn't just keep pace, it would allow less latency time for what's installed on the hard drive when compared to reading it from the CD (be it 360's x12 DVD drive or Sony's BRD).

Resolution isn't tied to install sizes necessarilly, it's not like they suddenly have more ram for better and bigger textures and sound when rendering in 1080P native in fact they'd have less available bandwithd and ram because of that many more pixles that have to be presented per frame which would eat up bandwithd.

Like I said though (and you neglected to quote) 95 percent of games on the PS3 are using the "required hard drive space' tab because that's the size of the save data.

2 (that require an install of seperate game asset data)games out of the 20-40 odd games released isn't a huge number percentage wise.

 

[imdaly]

I think even Martha Stewart would agree that required HDD installs of any console games is not a "good thing".

 

[Zenien]

Only if the frequency of games that make it mandatory combined with the storage requirements make it detrimental relative to the storage provided by the Hard Drives (as you seem to be so found of Prophesizing )

 

[Spidey17]

Zenien really got technical on that one. Hell, I'm a nerd but I don't have any idea what she said. In laymen's terms, I would need to download something to play Full Auto on my NORMAL TV, or is that crap only for people with godly entertainment systems???

 

[Spidey17]

Even as a long time Sony gamer, I'm getting really pissed at the stuff that they're trying to pin on us.

 

[Zenien]

Zenien really got technical on that one. Hell, I'm a nerd but I don't have any idea what she said. In laymen's terms, I would need to download something to play Full Auto on my NORMAL TV, or is that crap only for people with godly entertainment systems???

The type of TV doesn't matter.

Full Auto and NBA something something require you to install some of the data from the disk onto the hard drive. THis data is uncompressed onto the hard drive because hard drives read data much much faster then any optical CD/DVD based Media, so it's more efficient and can load more data into the game in less time.

So far those are the only two games that haev come up that REQUIRE you to install in game assets (textures models sounds) onto the drive. You don't need to connect to the internet because all the data just need to be copied from the game disc onto the hard drive in its uncompressed for.

All the other games just have a much much smaller "Required Hard Drive Space" for save data like what you see on your PS2 memory card.

 

[Avalanche]

More at IGN.

 

[BatMatt]

typically this isn't my typical game interest, medieval stories and dragons aren't exactly my niche but I'll get this one. Graphics look beautiful and it seems like it could be the first game to really take advantage of the sixaxis controller

 

[TheBat812]

I think even Martha Stewart would agree that required HDD installs of any console games is not a "good thing".

it is if every system comes with one.

 

[machinelover]

More at IGN.

Beautiful! I can not wait This game is looking more and more breathtaking everytime I see it. I really want to get my hands on it.

 

[Havok83]

wow great pics. Its really looking good

 

[JM0087]

It looks amazing. Now all we need is the demo.t:

 

[Spidey17]

Gawwwwwd, I want to play a demo so bad!!! This game better not end up sucking royally like Superman Returns.

 

[The Guardian]

HI GUYS, IGN POSTED A SWEET 3 PAGE HANDS ON OF LAIR, JUST FOLLOW THE LINK, ENJOY!!!up:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/780/780120p1.html


UPDATE: AWESOME NEW HD VIDEOS AND DEVELOPER WALKTHROUGH OF LAIR AT GAMETRAILERS, JUST HIT THE LINK AND SCROLL DOWN, ENJOY!!!

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2657

 

[Spidey17]

I absolutely loved whenever the dragon landed, and when it threw those rhinos, that **** was skeet-tastic. I also liked the giant sea-monster, that was pretty rad. Those are GOW level graphics, on a game that is part flight sim, as well as part rts. It will own to the ninth degree. I just hope that you can go faster in the game, cuz they seemed to be just gliding around, with some short bursts of speed thrown in.

 

[Zenien]

The Gametrailers stuff is by far the best. They've updated with a bunch of new Lair videos BTW. The developer walk through is awesome.

 

[Zenien]

 

[Zenien]

In Depth Developer Interview

The Music of Lair​

Developer Interviews (must see)
Parts 1 to 3
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18580&type=mov&pl=game

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18585&type=mov&pl=game

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18616&type=mov&pl=game

 

[Spidey17]

I'd be suprised if this game wasn't awesome.

 

[Zenien]

Riping off the Rhinos head and bowlling with it was all kinds of cool.

 

[Electro UK]

The guys over at Gamerrejects claim that the PS3's hardware is crappy. As if Motorstorm wasn't already proof that its not, THIS should be proof enough. This is gorgeous despite the hundreds of enemies on screen.

 

[Spidey17]

If they can make an enormous game like this so early in the PS3's life, then MS is in trouble, because Sony already has a game that is arguably as good looking as GOW. And then you realize that Lair is like eight times as big. Also, if these people can get a PS3 game looking like this, then MGS4 should look just as good, if not better, don't you think?

 

[Zenien]

The game is looking a lot smoother, the framerate is tons improved as are all the effects.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=mov&id=19635

 

[Spidey17]

When did this video pop up?