Homecoming No More Origin Stories!!!

[Overman27pj]

Please just jump right in...we've already seen this rebooted at least twice on screen. Have the ball rolling downhill already!

 

[OriginalMiles]

They aren't doing the origin again.

He's appearing in CIVIL WAR, as Spider-Man.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I would love a solo that was about something important to Peter personally, that would tie into the probable themes of CIVIL WAR. Say, a story where Peter is struggling to tell MJ or May his secret. I would love to see some JMS stuff, when May knew the secret, adapted. That would be a way to go into some origin stuff but not have it overwhelm the film's plot.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

If Peter still lived in aunt Mays appartment, it would just become awkward after she told him. In the comics when that happened Peter was already much older and independent

 

[ZIPBAGS]

You could always just do a quick 5-10 minute backstory at the beginning. Similar to what they did in "Daredevil".

 

[John Locke]

Just have him explain it to Steve or Tony. So far Peter's the only superhero (in the movies) who is an ordinary person who becomes a superhero. They are going to want to know what compelled Peter to do that.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

If Peter still lived in aunt Mays appartment, it would just become awkward after she told him. In the comics when that happened Peter was already much older and independent

And... In the comics Edwin Jarvis is a flesh and blood human being that is a contemporary of Tony's, Bucky was a "boy commando", Ultron is made of Adamantium, THOR is presented as a physical match for Hulk, who was not the product of Super Soldier experiments but a gamma bomb... You see where this is going? Things change for movies. Yes, even Marvel Studios throws canon under the bus for the sake of making movies. Don't think so? Well...mi hope you won't be disappointed when Star-Lord's dad is nothing at all like from the books.

 

[Tony Stark]

Origin could be a flashback ala The Incredible Hulk, but yes we all know his origin, no need to go there, and it would backlash if they tried going there.

 

[Pink Ranger]

No origin, but the ongoing mystery behind the technology of Peter's mutation from the ASM franchise can be carried over as a story driver for the MCU franchise. Maybe tie it into the Supersoldier program somehow.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

And... In the comics Edwin Jarvis is a flesh and blood human being that is a contemporary of Tony's, Bucky was a "boy commando", Ultron is made of Adamantium, THOR is presented as a physical match for Hulk, who was not the product of Super Soldier experiments but a gamma bomb... You see where this is going? Things change for movies. Yes, even Marvel Studios throws canon under the bus for the sake of making movies. Don't think so? Well...mi hope you won't be disappointed when Star-Lord's dad is nothing at all like from the books.

It's not about departing from the comics, it's about aunt May knowing he's Spider-man at a high school age and still letting him fight crime and supervillains. My point is that it doesn't make sense

 

[queendarkness12]

Exploring Peter Parker in college could be a good idea, since there could be a lot of connections to be explored.

 

[Human Torch]

The origin is an integral part of Spidey's history. He became a hero from learning a painful lesson. ("With great power...") I think you undercut a lot of the character by not showing that. I don't doubt Marvel will want to move past a full on origin,but I still think it's preferable to having Peter tell someone his story in somebody else's movie.

Spidey: "Hey,Cap,Tony...did I ever tell you how I learned my greatest lesson?"

Tony: "Would you look at the time?"

Cap: "Yeah,I-I got somewhere to be too..."

 

[Octoberist]

The origin is an integral part of Spidey's history. He became a hero from learning a painful lesson. ("With great power...") I think you undercut a lot of the character by not showing that. I don't doubt Marvel will want to move past a full on origin,but I still think it's preferable to having Peter tell someone his story in somebody else's movie.

Spidey: "Hey,Cap,Tony...did I ever tell you how I learned my greatest lesson?"

Tony: "Would you look at the time?"

Cap: "Yeah,I-I got somewhere to be too..."

The origin has done twice already in the past 13 years. I think we 'get it'.

Marvel will probably do flashbacks and call backs BUT if you prefer to have ANOTHER origins story, then it'll be a detriment to the new franchise. That's ONE of the many reasons why Amazing Spider-Man failed: It covered nearly the same ground that Raimi did. It felt redundant.

It would feel like purgatory if there's another origins story. I'm not too sure why you're not tired of it yourself. I don't understand your thinking, I guess.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

We saw it twice in movies in 11 years.
So yeas please, no more origin story.

 

[Pink Ranger]

The origin is an integral part of Spidey's history. He became a hero from learning a painful lesson. ("With great power...") I think you undercut a lot of the character by not showing that. I don't doubt Marvel will want to move past a full on origin,but I still think it's preferable to having Peter tell someone his story in somebody else's movie.

Spidey: "Hey,Cap,Tony...did I ever tell you how I learned my greatest lesson?"

Tony: "Would you look at the time?"

Cap: "Yeah,I-I got somewhere to be too..."

However, I think some of that actually can be organically integrated into the current MCU as maybe a piece of meaningful dialogue. Like Spidey, seen as a young clueless kid, offers some wisdom to one of the more troubled Avengers, like Banner for instance. Total feels moment in the waiting.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Posted this back in December about Marvel's opening scenes.

So I had myself a MCU marathon over the weekend and saw something interesting in my watch that I think could happen in Marvel's Spider-Man(if it ever happens).

The Spider-Bite as the opening scene.

In Iron Man, the first thing we see is Stark with the soldiers. This of course is just a flash forward scene as we then see the events leading up to it later on.

In Captain America: TFA, they show a flash forward scene of a group of scientists finding him and his shield.

In Thor, they show a flashback of Odin's fight against the Frost Giants. This of course was apart of the plot later on.

In Guardians Of The Galaxy, they show a flashback of Peter and how he is abducted by the Ravagers.

So you see, there's always an opening scene that they do very quickly. I'm wondering if they do something like this, and it would be the Spider-Bite? This is just a theory on my part. They could always do something different.

The second thing that I noticed, was that a main character was presumed to be dead.

Iron Man after the Arc Reactor blew.
Captain America after he crashed the ship into the ice.
Thor after he confronted the Destroyer.
Hulk after he fell from the plane
Groot after he sacrificed himself.

So I'm wondering if we'll get something like this in a Spider-Man movie. These are just a couple of theories on my part. What do you guys think?

 

[Spidey-Lad93]

The movie opens with the titles where it shows the Spider bite and when those finish we see Peter walking towards his house and it's the police telling him the news of Uncle Ben's death and the first 10 minutes of the movie is Spider-Man chasing Uncle Ben's killer and when he defeats the killer Peter tells a montage about With Great Power etc and the screen fades In black then we see 6 months later and the movie starts

 

[Human Torch]

The origin has done twice already in the past 13 years. I think we 'get it'.

Marvel will probably do flashbacks and call backs BUT if you prefer to have ANOTHER origins story, then it'll be a detriment to the new franchise. That's ONE of the many reasons why Amazing Spider-Man failed: It covered nearly the same ground that Raimi did. It felt redundant.

It would feel like purgatory if there's another origins story. I'm not too sure why you're not tired of it yourself. I don't understand your thinking, I guess.

This is a new continuity. Nobody in the MCU knows who or what "Spider Man" is. You don't just take arguably the most popular character in comics history,plop him into continuity as an already established character and have him interact with his peers as if he'd been there all along.

You're thinking in terms of being "the audience" and not what will best serve the character narrative.

As for it being shown "twice", TASM hardly counts. Ben gets killed over chocolate milk and the killer is never found. Hardly a blow by blow account of Amazing Fantasy #15.

It's also important to note that even Raimi's version wasn't entirely on the mark. The point is how getting the powers turned Peter into a self serving,egotistical jerk. And only Ben's death brought him back to himself. They never covered the origin completely accurately,IMO. There's still a great story there waiting to be told.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Show the origin in the opening credits. That's all we need to see.

 

[Octoberist]

This is a new continuity. Nobody in the MCU knows who or what "Spider Man" is. You don't just take arguably the most popular character in comics history,plop him into continuity as an already established character and have him interact with his peers as if he'd been there all along.

You're thinking in terms of being "the audience" and not what will best serve the character narrative.

As for it being shown "twice", TASM hardly counts. Ben gets killed over chocolate milk and the killer is never found. Hardly a blow by blow account of Amazing Fantasy #15.

It's also important to note that even Raimi's version wasn't entirely on the mark. The point is how getting the powers turned Peter into a self serving,egotistical jerk. And only Ben's death brought him back to himself. They never covered the origin completely accurately,IMO. There's still a great story there waiting to be told.

Oh..my..God. Really?

Under the right writer and director, we can still have Parker's backstory in other, more clever storytelling methods (flashbacks, small sequence) rather than..another origin story. Lazy. Which is something that you advocate. You're driving me insane right now.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

TIH it

 

[PeterBenParker]

Origin in the opening credits similar to the recap of the first film in Spider-Man 2.

 

[Human Torch]

Oh..my..God. Really?

Under the right writer and director, we can still have Parker's backstory in other, more clever storytelling methods (flashbacks, small sequence) rather than..another origin story. Lazy. Which is something that you advocate. You're driving me insane right now.

There's nothing lazy about giving a proper origin. MOS did the same and Superman's origin has been told countless times in live action. Spider-Man had his told-what- twice?

Chill out. I'm allowed my opinion and I doubt the powers that be will agree with me anyway. It seems the consensus is "truncated flashback origin". If they can make it work,more power to them,I guess.

Frankly as a Life Long Hulk fan,I was disappointed Hulk didn't get a full blown origin. But this is probably the MCU policy for adapting existing film universes. FF will likely get the same treatment.

 

[samsnee]

Sorry Human Torch, you're far alone on this one. Just because it wasn't a literal translation of the page doesn't mean everyone in the audience doesn't already get the gist of it. And there is no reason why other heroes would need to know his origin.

 

[Neno_Kos]

There is no need for origin story movie. 99% I am sure we wont see one. If there is one it will be one 10 minutes long in flashbacks.