Nolanize Everything: Change characters from any Comic to fit into Nolan's world

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I thought this might be a fun idea,
This is a thread for using Christopher Nolan's method (he used on Batman in Begins and Dark Knight) on any character to fit them into his Batman world.
Some assumptions on my part are that Nolan boils the characters down to their character (who they are inside) and makes some minor changes to their appearance and origin to fit into the real world and to help the story.
I started another thread about changing villains to fit into the movie, but what about other characters?
You can pick other DC characters, and change them how you think they might be changed for the Nolan Batman film.
You can even take non DC characters like Spider-Man, Savage Dragon, Captain America, Captain Planet, whoever you want.

You can consider it expanding the Dark Knight’s movie world, or simply an exercise in creativity.


I’ll start first with the Big Man at DC, Superman:
The first big idea I would use to establish him in the Nolan universe is to have him, like Batman, become a symbol. Only with Superman it is a symbol of hope and of change.

Reasons for the costume:
A)[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]One idea for his costume is that it is material found in his spaceship from when he crashed into earth, it is Kryptonian. (But I like the idea of him stopping an bomb and the blast destroying part of his costume)

B)[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Another idea, one which could be added to A even, is that it is either based on or actually is ceremonial Kryptonian clothing.
C)[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Perhaps Superman, at first, thinks he has to stay hidden. He saves the day as fast and as smooth as possible in order to stay out of sight, like in Secret Identity. He also wears a brightly colored strongman or wrestler type costume so that if anyone did see him they wouldn’t believe it. It would sound so unreal. But this idea contrasts Superman turning himself into a symbol of hope. So if this idea was used he would eventually have to decide to become public.
I think Clark would want people to see him, to notice his bight blue and red costume, to see him and feel good and want to be like him and make a difference.

He wears No Mask because he wants to gain the public’s trust. The idea that he wears no mask, so why can’t anyone tell he is Clark, would be sort of dealt with or explained.

He is so good at hiding that he seems like two totally different people.
Or maybe the need for him NOT to wear a mask is so great Clark knows he will have to risk it.

I can imagine, like Bruce Wayne, Clark plots all this out before hand. He has reasons for his actions. Clark sits down with his parents at home in Smallville and putting together a plan of attack. He has always had these amazing powers, but now he has to do something with them.
I think, like in Lois and Clark or Superman the animated series or other Superman tales, his parents are heavily involved with Clark becoming Superman. It would be like a round table discussion about what he would do and how he would go about it.
Nolan’s Batman is heavily psychological, due to the loss of his parents. Superman, similarly, is who he is all because of his parents. He grew up in a loving and supportive environment.


While Bruce is Bruce Wayne and Batman with the real Bruce is somewhere in between, Clark Kent is three people. He is Clark Kent, the farm boy who grew up in Smallville, he is Kal El the last son of Krypton and son of Jor El of the House of El, and he is Superman and represents hope, progress, change, peace, prosperity, and all the good that mankind can aspire to be. And, once again like Bruce, all of these are the true Clark Kent and maybe none are at the same time. Like Bruce’s egomaniacal billionaire persona, Clark pretends to be an anxious and bumbling country boy. Although he should still be likable.

Comic References to go off of:
Just like Nolan’s Batman, Superman would barrow from Superman comics.
Using the idea from the Superman/Batman Annual #1, Superman (or Clark Kent, or both) in all photos vibrates a little in order to smudge his features slightly.
Using the idea from Allstar Superman, while disguising himself as Clark Kent he alters everything. He talks slightly different, uses different mannerisms, slouches in order to not only appear shorter but also un-heroic, and things like that.


And like Alex Ross’ or Allstar’s Superman, this Superman not only stops crime or saves people from things like plane crashes, he also is looking globally. Superman is trying to use himself to the very fullest of his potential and cure diseases and stop natural disasters, or feed the world.


Sorry if these ideas are a little random, but its at least a small start. I know I didn't cover everything.
And I will probably add more later.


But feel free to add your own ideas, even your own Superman ideas.
how would you change the Etrigan the Demon, or Green Arrow, to fit Nolan's Batman world?
What about Wolverine or Spider-Man?

How would you change a character (any character) to fit into Nolan's Batman world?
Have fun with it and remember there aren't any wrong answers.
 
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pretty hard, bro, probably because almost all DC characters are fantastic characters with superpowers = S, but it's indeed an interesting idea
 
Yeah, I kinda have to agree. Given how thoroughly Nolan has tried to ground his Batman in as much realism as possible - right down to the physical appearances of Joker and Two-Face, two characters who have never had the most realistic disfigurements, at least in the comics - trying to establish a character like Superman within the same parameters would be really difficult...unless you made some MAJOR divergences in the way the mythos is to be presented, at least as I see it. And by MAJOR I don't mean giving Superman a kid or giving Doomsday the alter-ego of a human EMT or saying that Luthor is a Kryptonian posing as a CIA agent - I mean radically reimagining the fundamental elements of the Superman legend so that you could almost get an audience to believe that a planet like Krypton and guys like Brainiac or Parasite could actually exist in the universe that we live in. Basically, as I see it, the extent of changes needed to make Superman work in a real-world setting would be every bit as extreme and vaguely recognizable as the ideas that guys like Burton and Abrams had, albeit in a different direction than either one of them had planned.

Now, creating emotional complexity on the same level as Nolan's Batman wouldn't be quite so difficult - you could easily come up with internal conflict for him to face: for every cop on the scene of a crime Superman busts up who says "Thank Heaven he showed up!", there's probably another saying "Great, this freak'll put us out of work!"; for every idealist who sees Superman as the messianic savior the world so desperately needs, there's a skeptic who thinks this guy who can crush cars with his bare hands is probably flying recon for an oncoming invasion force. The powerless would adore him; the powers-that-be would be terrified of him. THAT alone would be a never-ending battle of its own making for the character.

That said, the prospect of a "Nolanized" Superman makes me think back to the early Superman comics of 1938 and thereabout, where he was powerful but not nearly so much as he is now, where he was taking down spouse- and child-beaters and neglectful labor bosses and hate groups as well as murderers and mobsters, and where he didn't take crap from any of them. The trick would be to translate that to film without sacrificing the basic farm-boy morality and optimism of the character, which IMO is something that CAN be made to work to his advantage - he's not Super-Batman, no matter how much WB desperately wants him to be.
 
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What I meant was, not that he should be in a sequal or in the Batman's World,
But just using Nolan's method (like what if Nolan, using his method, made a solo Superman film.)
I think the thing that Nolan has done most with Batman is to make him very psychological and personal, making him connect more with viewers because of his character. Sort of seeing what makes Bruce Wayne tick.
so I tried to apply that to Superman more and try to use Nolan's method on a character so unrealistic.

But I was also hoping to see what some other people might come up with, on Superman, or on other comic characters like Hulk or Wolverine, or so on.

Maybe its too hard because its not so well defined, and just an assumption on my part.
Its not an A+B=C thing.
 
considering nolan isnt doing anything that hasnt been done better in the comics in the past 15 years or so....im sure when it comes to other characters, all you have to do is look to the best of their comics.

this whole "nolan-izing" thing is ridiculous and over rated and just plain boring.
 
The main problem is that Nolan's approach was to make Batman's world more "real" to the point that fans forget what a microwave emitter is and how it actually would work or that a man and woman can't fall on a car and walk away.

Batman only becomes extrodinary when faced with extrodinary threats.

Superman has the exact opposite problem because you have an ordinary threat that needs to become extrodinary for Superman to even feel threatened.
 
this whole "nolan-izing" thing is ridiculous and over rated and just plain boring.

Oh my god, don't say that about Nolan!

Seriously, the most disappointing part of TDK, imo, was the fact that Joker beat Batman with dynamite and a little gasoline and in Nolan's "real" world, it took an extreme device to beat him instead of ordinary detective work.
 
There honestly isn't anything inherently unrealistic about Superman. There's bound to be life on other worlds, and the capabilities of those lifeforms are potentially limitless. Possibly the least realistic thing about Superman is the fact that he appears human, which if you think about it isn't any less possible than an amazingly lucky man who can make a nightly hobby of fighting crime while dressed as a bat.
 
There honestly isn't anything inherently unrealistic about Superman. There's bound to be life on other worlds, and the capabilities of those lifeforms are potentially limitless.
Except to my knowledge these capabilities don't apply until said lifeforms arrive on this planet absorbing the radiation from our yellow sun.

EDIT - just gotta squeeze in the glasses thing as well
 
Except to my knowledge these capabilities don't apply until said lifeforms arrive on this planet absorbing the radiation from our yellow sun.

EDIT - just gotta squeeze in the glasses thing as well

There are lifeforms on this planet right now that absorb the light of our yellow sun, it's not that far-fetched.

As for the glasses thing, I do agree with the idea that people may think that Clark and Superman do look alike, but that someone like Clark could never be someone like Superman. Combined with the fact that most people don't even know who Clark Kent is or looks like, and that Superman is assumed to be Superman all the time (which I've seen occassionally), it makes sense that most wouldn't make the connection.

I am all for Lois, Jimmy, and Perry figuring it out, but keeping it quiet. But that goes for any superhero and the people close to them. In Spider-Man 2, for example, when Pete's standing there in costume with Aunt May after saving her from Ock, realistically she'd recognize that it's him. She raised him, and I know that no matter how stupid I dress, if I'm within a few feet of my mother, she'd know it was me.
 
No way, I don't want Nolans vesion of superheroes because they won't be superheroes!

I want the comic book braught to life on the screen, I want to see the fantastic powers, the fantastical worlds and creatures. Nolan doesn't believe in these things, he said that in his Batman world, Superman and Wonder Woman don't exist?

That's his version of Batman, not the DC comic book version, I want the comic book version, the true source material.
 
Oh my god, don't say that about Nolan!

Seriously, the most disappointing part of TDK, imo, was the fact that Joker beat Batman with dynamite and a little gasoline and in Nolan's "real" world, it took an extreme device to beat him instead of ordinary detective work.

I agree, Batman being a detective genious could have worked better.
 
I think a Sci-Fi approach equal to Batman's realism might work well for the man of steel. Dealing with modern superweapons, genetics, human dependance on modern technology and of course the media (in this case Lexcorp's) exploiting all of this as much as possible. Metropolis could be where the most advanced technologies of the DC movieverse are being developed.
 

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