OFFICIAL: Best CBM of 2014 thread (so far)

Best CBM of 2014

  • 300: Rise Of An Empire

  • Captain America: The Winter Soldier

  • The Amazing Spiderman 2

  • X-Men: Days Of Future Past

  • Transformers: Age Of Extinction

  • Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

  • Sin City: A Dame To Kill For

  • Other.

  • Guardians Of The Galaxy


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C'mon Cap! Take it Back!!

I think it's the only one that will stand up for years to come and remain a great movie in fans' minds
as time goes on and more repeat viewings are done of DOFP and Guardians, i think their flaws will become more and more glaring
liked both of em, don't get me wrong on that, but I don't think they were particularly "great films"
 
^Funnily enough I would actually say the sort of opposite, I have watched TWS once since getting it on BD and not really had the desire to do so again. Also, I saw all 3 movies twice at the cinema, on 2nd viewing I enjoyed DOFP and GOTG even more than the first time, TWS just stayed the same for me really.
 
Idk, TWS has been amazing each time I've seen it

I only saw the other 2 once so far, TBH, but just thinking back on them is enough to bring out the flaws
DOFP was almost as overrated as FC, and the poll now being much closer than the last one shows, I believe, that people have begun to realize as such

And Guardians was fun, and a great time, but also a little light on story... great intro film? absolutely.. great film, period?? dunno about that...
they both also had weak-ass endings... TWS wasn't that much better, but at least the emotion was cranked way up compared to the other two
 
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The other day I watched the elevator scene on my lunch break twice.

And with the extended DOFP coming out next year, I'm probably not buying the one released this year on blu-ray.
 
Idk, TWS has been amazing each time I've seen it

I only saw the other 2 once so far, TBH, but just thinking back on them is enough to bring out the flaws
DOFP was almost as overrated as FC, and the poll now being much closer than the last one shows, I believe, that people have begun to realize as such

And Guardians was fun, and a great time, but also a little light on story... great intro film? absolutely.. great film, period?? dunno about that...
they both also had weak-ass endings... TWS wasn't that much better, but at least the emotion was cranked way up compared to the other two

Well, its obvious our opinions are at odds here, as I dont find FC to be over-rated, and I found TWS to have least emotion out of the 3 movies. DOFP had easily the most, multiple times I was close to tears in that movie, and the end was the biggest one for me.

I actually think TWS's 3rd act is the weakest part of the movie.
 
DOFP didn't bring me to tears at any part of the movie. :huh:

Only one that was close was Guardians.
 
I haven't seen Guardians or Cap 2 yet (for some dumb reason; I should get on that), but the best comic movie I've seen this year was Batman: Assault on Arkham.
 
DOFP didn't bring me to tears at any part of the movie. :huh:

Only one that was close was Guardians.

It nearly brought me to tears multiple times, but there were tears of happiness as well as sadness mixed in there. The most prominent ones for me were Xavier looking into Logans past, seeing the pain there and nearly breaking down, then Xavier seeing Xavier of the future "We need you to hope again" and then Charles speaking to Raven at the end, especially the "I have faith in you Raven" line, and then Logan waking up in the future and seeing Jean and Scott was the tip of the iceberg.

The brilliance of that movie for me was the range of emotions I went through watching it, both times.

Guardians had some great emotionals bits as well though.
 
I will agree FC Is overated.I have it as last on my list of 5 good X-Men films.

While I still prefer X2 to DOFP I really like DOFP despite me not liking the good non FC
films-X-Men and the wolverine as well as X2 being erased with the time travel.

With certain people I respect giving high marks to GOTG I may break down and rent it when it hits DVD.

While I can be tough on MS films especilly when I feel need to defend the Fox and sony films I like WInter Soldier Is as far as I am concerned the best they have produced.

I have bought DOFP with itunes,have pre-orded the DVD and if "rogue Cut" Is on Itunes I will buy again so I am putting my money where my mouth Is.
 
Yeah outside of the scene with Jean and Scott, none of those scenes really impacted me. X-Men were my favorite book when I was younger and by X-Men: The Last Stand, I've been annoyed with it essentially being Wolverine movies. So the fact that this movie made me almost forget that and being good to boot, that's high praise for me.

But if given the option right now, I'd watch TWS, then GOTG and followed by DOFP. Which is funny since that is how I'll watch it again as I won't be buying DOFP because of the inevitable extended edition that'll be released after the movie next year.
 
Yeah outside of the scene with Jean and Scott, none of those scenes really impacted me. X-Men were my favorite book when I was younger and by X-Men: The Last Stand, I've been annoyed with it essentially being Wolverine movies. So the fact that this movie made me almost forget that and being good to boot, that's high praise for me.

But if given the option right now, I'd watch TWS, then GOTG and followed by DOFP. Which is funny since that is how I'll watch it again as I won't be buying DOFP because of the inevitable extended edition that'll be released after the movie next year.

Thats the exact opposite of the order I would go with them, I think TWS is the worst one out of all, but its still great.

And well, I wouldnt say DOFP was a Wolverine movie, he may have had the most screen-time, but really it was about the battle for Mystique's soul between Charles and Eric, with Charles taking the 1st steps to what would be an important future.

For me TLS was the only movie were it got ridiculous with Wolverine being the central character, that should have been Scott's and Jeans movie all the way. But FC, TW and DOFP since then have all been great, X-Men always have and always will be my favourite heroes, and I have absolutely adored the 1st 2, and now the last 3, with DOFP being the pinnacle of the recent efforts and it sits alongside X2 as the best in the series and one of the best CBM's ever for me.
 
You seem to like to add the words worst and TWS in the same sentence a lot. LOL
 
it's interesting to see what people find emotional that others don't
I though Steve's "I'm with you till the end of the line" was much more powerful than Xavier's speech to Raven (but maybe I was just tired of giving a crap about Mystique/Lawrence by the end of that film)
The only bit that stirred feelings in me on DOFP was the plane scene and the ending

GOTG on the other hand, was probably the most emotional outta the group. Between Rocket, especially his talk with Drax, the bits with Quill's mother, and anything having to do with Groot, I was constantly having teh feelz in the theatre. If the plot had been stronger, that movie would've been perfect.
 
it's interesting to see what people find emotional that others don't
I though Steve's "I'm with you till the end of the line" was much more powerful than Xavier's speech to Raven (but maybe I was just tired of giving a crap about Mystique/Lawrence by the end of that film)
The only bit that stirred feelings in me on DOFP was the plane scene and the ending

GOTG on the other hand, was probably the most emotional outta the group. Between Rocket, especially his talk with Drax, the bits with Quill's mother, and anything having to do with Groot, I was constantly having teh feelz in the theatre. If the plot had been stronger, that movie would've been perfect.

Agreed on pretty much everything :up:

I thought as a introduction to the GOTG, the films plot was pretty solid overall. DIdn't need anything to complex just starting out. Definitely one of the best firsts of a property I've seen. Just would have preferred more time with Ronan and Nebula. Ronan's a great character who was capable of alot more.

Personally I had much more issues with DOFP then the other two. But I can see how my major issues with that film won't matter much to others. Though I had alot of problems with the pacing and forced exposition too early on as well.
 
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It nearly brought me to tears multiple times, but there were tears of happiness as well as sadness mixed in there. The most prominent ones for me were Xavier looking into Logans past, seeing the pain there and nearly breaking down, then Xavier seeing Xavier of the future "We need you to hope again" and then Charles speaking to Raven at the end, especially the "I have faith in you Raven" line, and then Logan waking up in the future and seeing Jean and Scott was the tip of the iceberg.

The brilliance of that movie for me was the range of emotions I went through watching it, both times.

Guardians had some great emotionals bits as well though.

Same here
 
it's interesting to see what people find emotional that others don't
I though Steve's "I'm with you till the end of the line" was much more powerful than Xavier's speech to Raven (but maybe I was just tired of giving a crap about Mystique/Lawrence by the end of that film)
The only bit that stirred feelings in me on DOFP was the plane scene and the ending

GOTG on the other hand, was probably the most emotional outta the group. Between Rocket, especially his talk with Drax, the bits with Quill's mother, and anything having to do with Groot, I was constantly having teh feelz in the theatre. If the plot had been stronger, that movie would've been perfect.

^This. I don't even think the plot needed to be too strong for GOTG first movie it just needed to give more focus to Ronan and Nebula as they were severly lacking.
 
It nearly brought me to tears multiple times, but there were tears of happiness as well as sadness mixed in there. The most prominent ones for me were Xavier looking into Logans past, seeing the pain there and nearly breaking down, then Xavier seeing Xavier of the future "We need you to hope again" and then Charles speaking to Raven at the end, especially the "I have faith in you Raven" line, and then Logan waking up in the future and seeing Jean and Scott was the tip of the iceberg.

The brilliance of that movie for me was the range of emotions I went through watching it, both times.

Well said :up:
I would also add a plane scene to that list. And the ending credits when the X2 theme was playing.
 
^This. I don't even think the plot needed to be too strong for GOTG first movie it just needed to give more focus to Ronan and Nebula as they were severly lacking.

They were my only issues with the movie really, at least Nebula will return.
 
You seem to like to add the words worst and TWS in the same sentence a lot. LOL

Well, out of the big 3, to me it was worst, but it was certainly not a bad movie, look at my sig, not many are above it this year :yay:.

Same here

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Well said :up:
I would also add a plane scene to that list. And the ending credits when the X2 theme was playing.

Ah yes of course, 2 more great parts that nearly had the tears rolling.
 
Thats the exact opposite of the order I would go with them, I think TWS is the worst one out of all, but its still great.

And well, I wouldnt say DOFP was a Wolverine movie, he may have had the most screen-time, but really it was about the battle for Mystique's soul between Charles and Eric, with Charles taking the 1st steps to what would be an important future.

For me TLS was the only movie were it got ridiculous with Wolverine being the central character, that should have been Scott's and Jeans movie all the way. But FC, TW and DOFP since then have all been great, X-Men always have and always will be my favourite heroes, and I have absolutely adored the 1st 2, and now the last 3, with DOFP being the pinnacle of the recent efforts and it sits alongside X2 as the best in the series and one of the best CBM's ever for me.

TWS is good and entertaining but eh... as far as emotional attachment goes... I felt nothing especially the relationship between Bucky/Cap and at the end , it got cheesey. I also thought the "death" of Nick Fury could have been played better. I only got a good reaction from Black Widow from that moment and that was it.

But X-Men: Days of Future Past, so much emotion! And the only "emotional" scene that I kinda don't like was the plane scene. But the climax with Charles convincing Mystique while the X-Men from the future are getting killed one by one, Storm's death, "we need you to hope again", the new future which is my favorite :hrt: are all amazing and the acting was just superb!
 
TWS is good and entertaining but eh... as far as emotional attachment goes... I felt nothing especially the relationship between Bucky/Cap and at the end , it got cheesey. I also thought the "death" of Nick Fury could have been played better. I only got a good reaction from Black Widow from that moment and that was it.

I think that part of the problem with the Bucky/Cap friendship is that you needed to have an ultra-precise memory of the first film. I personally didn't remember who Bucky was, and I know a lot of people didn't either.

In contrast, I did remember who Peggy Carter was, and thus all of those scenes were meaningful, like the hospital visit, and also like when they found her photograph in that abandoned bunker, and also in the scenes that were about her where she didn't show up, like Cap not interested in being in a relationship. I think it came down to that being a much better developed relationship in that film.

So within the second movie, the entire emotional core is about a Bucky-Cap friendship that is supposedly epic, and that's a problem.
 
But, Bucky is shown and discussed within the confines of TWS. Therefore, those scenes have meaning.
 
But, Bucky is shown and discussed within the confines of TWS. Therefore, those scenes have meaning.

That was the intention of those scenes, like the flashback in front of the door, but in my opinion they weren't effective, certainly not as effective as the memory of the Peggy-Steve relationships from the previous film.

Building an emotional connection, setting up a strong emotional response, is hard to do. Filmmakers try to do it all the time and they don't always succeed. It's not just about having scenes that intend to succeed, it's about those scenes being effective.

In the case of the First Avenger, I think Peggy-Steve is a good relationship, and part of that is that it's the emotional core of the film, they structure the whole movie into convincing the viewer that Peggy and Steve have a sincere and deep love, and that Peggy Carter is a real human being and not just a love interest. If you think about it, Steve's arc as a hero in that film runs completely parallel and simultaneous to his arc as Peggy's lover, the two are totally integrated.

Here's an article from Film Critic Hulk on the issue:
Film Critic Hulk
http://filmcrithulk.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/peggy-carter-why-captain-america-works/
PEGGY CARTER – WHY CAPTAIN AMERICA WORKS
July 22, 2011

HULK WANT TO TALK ABOUT PEGGY CARTER AND STORYTELLING 101, BECAUSE HULK ARGUE THEY THE REASON THE FILM REALLY WORKS.

FOR ONE, SHE HAVE TO WORK OR ELSE THE MOVIE FAIL. WHILE IN THE SCRIPTING STAGE, THE WRITERS COULD HAVE SIDELINED PEGGY CARTER AS MERE LIP SERVICE, AS THE MAJORITY OF SUMMER BLOCKBUSTERS ARE WANT TO DO WITH THESE STRANGE “WOMEN” PEOPLE. BUT INSTEAD THEY MADE CHOICE TO BRING HER TO THE FOREFRONT OF THE FILM. HULK NOT EXAGGERATING, SHE IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE MOVIE. AND IF THE FILM DIDN’T DO IT THEIR STORY JUSTICE, THEN IT WOULD HAVE FAILED EASILY.

HOLLYWOOD’S INCLINATION TO MARGINALIZE FEMALE CO-STARS TEND TO DRIVE HULK BATTY. THEN AGAIN, MOST SCREENWRITERS ARE MEN, AND A GOOD MAJORITY OF THEM WOULDN’T HAVE SINGLE CLUE HOW TO WRITE WOMEN. EVER WONDER WHY SO MANY MOVIES JUST MAKE THEIR FEMALE LEADS EITHER BACKGROUND DAMSELS OR JUST ANOTHER GRUNT WITH A GUN? (ii)

PEGGY CARTER NEITHER OF THOSE THINGS. SHE NOT HIS SIDEKICK WITH BOOBS. SHE NOT MERELY HIS “LOVE INTEREST.”

SHE SMART, CAPABLE, SOLDIERLY, AND DISTINCTLY FEMININE.

OF COURSE, NONE OF THAT POSSIBLE WITHOUT HAYLEY ATWELL.

In contrast, The Winter Soldier is trying to do many things, within that list is convincing us that Steve-Bucky is an epic friendship, and it might have succeeded if more time had been invested into it. I didn't buy into it, and I know other people didn't buy into. I think that film may have been better if it was smaller.

For whatever it's worth, these are the relationships that each of the three top CBMs this year had to nail:

The Winter Soldier: Steve and Bucky have an epic friendship ;
Guardians of the Galaxy: Quill, Gamorah, Drax, Rocket, Groot are greater as friends than they would be if they were alone;
Days of Future Past: I'm not sure, but arguably that Raven loves Xavier as her older brother, which I'm not convinced of;

Phrasing it that way, I realise that GoTG is the strongest of the three.
 
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TWS is good and entertaining but eh... as far as emotional attachment goes... I felt nothing especially the relationship between Bucky/Cap and at the end , it got cheesey. I also thought the "death" of Nick Fury could have been played better. I only got a good reaction from Black Widow from that moment and that was it.

But X-Men: Days of Future Past, so much emotion! And the only "emotional" scene that I kinda don't like was the plane scene. But the climax with Charles convincing Mystique while the X-Men from the future are getting killed one by one, Storm's death, "we need you to hope again", the new future which is my favorite :hrt: are all amazing and the acting was just superb!

Yeah I agree about both, TWS had some emotion in it, certainly more than the majority of MCU movies up until that point, but again, compared to other CBM's there isnt that much. Its why I personally feel Marvel Studio's have not made a truly top level CBM yet.

I would say TASM2 had a stronger emotional current than TWS did, despite TWS being the far superior movie.

But, Bucky is shown and discussed within the confines of TWS. Therefore, those scenes have meaning.

I know what you mean and somewhat agree, BUT, I see DA Champions point as well, their relationship wasnt really developed enough in the 1st movie for the story to have impact it needed in the sequel. Thats not the fault of the Russo's of course, but it is an issue.
 

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