Official Green Lantern News & Discussion Thread - Part 10

[protocida]

^ Avoiding Earth altogether is too risky. People need identification.

 

[The Sage]

That's an old cover.

 

[Poni_Boy]

That's an old cover.

Was going to say the same thing lol

 

[The Sage]

I wouldn't say no earth... just, you know, only at the very beginning until Hal gets called away.

^ Avoiding Earth altogether is too risky. People need identification.

Hal is their identification, if we're referring to seeing someone who looks human. As long as the characters, be it human or alien are written well and the story is too, it won't matter if it takes place in space.

 

[Donut]

If they want an Earth scene then the bonus scene during the Credits could be Carol on Earth becoming Star Sapphire. That is the only way I will tolerate any Earth scenes

 

[Lencho01]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/warner-bros-pursue-green-lantern-205703

THR is saying that WB is moving ahead with a sequel, but it doesn't seem like any new info that we didn't already have from before it's release

Heh.

 

[WeasleyIsRKing]

Hal is their identification, if we're referring to seeing someone who looks human. As long as the characters, be it human or alien are written well and the story is too, it won't matter if it takes place in space.

Agreed, The Sage.

 

[moviedoors]

^ Avoiding Earth altogether is too risky. People need identification.

Avatar and Star Wars would like a word with you.

 

[protocida]

^ Pandora is Earth by another name, and all the planets in Star Wars are reprodutions of Earth landscapes.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/warner-bros-pursue-green-lantern-205703

THR is saying that WB is moving ahead with a sequel, but it doesn't seem like any new info that we didn't already have from before it's release

Is this legit?

It seems to support some of what was said in the initial article from CBM. The source of the original article goes on to add in the comments section that they are allegedly going with a scaled-down Sinestro Corps War, only without the non-GL centric characters (like Superman Prime and Hank Henshaw).

 

[The Sage]

^ Pandora is Earth by another name, and all the planets in Star Wars are reprodutions of Earth landscapes.

And why wouldn't it be the same in Green Lantern?

 

[Poni_Boy]

It seems to support some of what was said in the initial article from CBM. The source of the original article goes on to add in the comments section that they are allegedly going with a scaled-down Sinestro Corps War, only without the non-GL centric characters (like Superman Prime and Hank Henshaw).

Full article:

Sources say Warners still believes in the franchise, even if the studio is “somewhat disappointed” with Green Lantern’s result.


Over the weekend, Green Lantern fell a steep 66% at the domestic box office, grossing $18.4 million for a cume of $89.3 million. That’s a big decline.


Warner Bros. president of domestic distribution Dan Fellman said the movie is settling in, pointing out that fanboy pics often see a significant drop-off in their second weekends.


Still, Green Lantern fell off more than recent superhero pics Thor and X-Men: First Class. Thor dropped 47% in its second weekend, while First Class dropped 56%.


Similar films that have seen the same sort of dip that Green Lantern did include Hulk, which dropped nearly 70% in its second outing.


Green Lantern cost $200 million to produce before a sizeable marketing spend (rival studios say it was one of the most expensive on record). Warners, preparing for the end of Harry Potter, needs new franchises, so was willing to invest big in Green Lantern.


A formidable obstacle standing in Green Lantern’s way now is Paramount’s Transformers: Dark of the Moon, which opens in theaters around the globe on Tuesday night.

...where does that article say anything to support budget or storyline details? Nothing in that article is really "new" since WB green lit both a GL2 treatment and script before he movie was released.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

It still hasn't crossed $100 million domestically after 2 weeks and the international grosses have been weak. This is studio spin.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

...where does that article say anything to support budget or storyline details? Nothing in that article is really "new" since WB green lit both a GL2 treatment and script before he movie was released.

I was referring to the earlier article from CBM that was dismissed:

Warner Bros. still pushing ahead with Green Lantern Sequel

Warner Bros. are still going to produce and fund a sequel to 2011's Green Lantern despite a massive negative reaction and are already looking at Director's to replace Martin Campbell.
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I have a source who I would say is "close" to Warner Bros. and he slips me little bits here and there and is always spot on. Well he slipped me another little thing here that is interesting.

"Despite the negative critical reaction and fan boy reaction, Warner Bros. are concerned about the Box Office numbers but believe it will make $400million which is less than the $550million they projected. But they are still pressing ahead and Martin Campbell left because of "differing agreements" with some of the Producers. Warner Bros. are looking at Matt Reeves to reinvigorate the franchise with the sequel as Director. The first film was always there to set up Sinestro as the villain in the sequel which will no doubt prove to be 100 times better from what I'm hearing, I believe at the moment it's called "Green Lantern: Rise of Fear" but don't quote me on that."​

I replied asking him about the Martin Campbell differing agreements bit and he said that it was creative differences in the finished product. He said he heard rumours that Campbell stopped putting his input into the final product at the end of May after "serious rows". This is why the film was so badly put together.

Also regarding the sequel (or Green Lantern: Rise of Fear), he said Warner Bros. want Matt Reeves to direct it who has experience with filming aliens in Cloverfield.

I assure you this is genuine and my source is definitely "in the know". What do you make of this

The storyline details come from addendum in the comments section of the article:

I don't really know how to prove it on here to be honest, just going to have to stick with me on this.

My source has seen the sequel's treatment (which is a basic plot written down and can vary from around 5 pages to as many as the writer wants just depends on how detailed it is). Sinestro's downfall started in GL the catalyst being Abin Sur's death. Without his mentor to give him advice his takes some drastic and bad decisions that puts him at logerheads with the Guardians and Hal Jordan.

He creates a smaller version of the Sinestro Corps (There won't be any DC Villains from other Heroes (Cyborg Superman etc.) with a couple hundred members.. hence the "Rise of Fear" because of the rise in Fear powered rings. The sequel will also have hints that will lead into a possible third film and regard Hal Jordan.

Of course, it could all still be BS and it'll just be another SR sequel about-face.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I was referring to the earlier article from CBM that was dismissed:

Of course, it could all still be BS but this latest news adds a little fuel into the rumor mill.

It's BS, trust me on that. No one at CBM has any contacts at WB for insider scoops.

And there is no relevant "news" in this THR piece which is either A) studio spin or B) THR filler for a slow Sunday

You know the easy way to deduce that? THR, Deadline and Variety are in a daily competitive battle. When one posts a scoop the other two pick it up immediately while adding their own info (and not sourcing each other).

Top that off with the mysteriously lacking 'Breaking' and 'Exclusive' tags that all three of those trades put on info such as this makes it seem even less likely to be legitimate

 

[moviedoors]

^ Pandora is Earth by another name, and all the planets in Star Wars are reprodutions of Earth landscapes.

Direct me to the country that has floating mountains, a bioluminescent forest, gigantism in the plant and animal life, a view of a gas giant, and a biological consciousness link up and I'll hop on a plane right now to go see it for myself.

A touch stone is one thing, but you said audiences need Earth to connect with. Those two movies prove you dead wrong. People love the exotic and the strange. After getting Pandora, Oa is pretty damn ho-hum. If you're going to make a space opera, for godsake, get away from present day Earth and show me something wonderful.

 

[Karelia]

Sequel might actually happen? AWESOME! I was hoping for this. I hope WB does see it has potential if done correctly.

 

[solidsnake86]

That same story always pops up that there going forward with the sequel when the movie does poorly, its not gonna happen. I still think they should have gone with the flash first because Green Lantern, to do it properly, was always going to cost a fortune. The sad part is they spent a fortune and it still wasn't enough. I would have preferred they went smaller with the first film, stuck with earth and atrocitus and if they made money it would have justified a larger sequel.

 

[KalMart]

Direct me to the country that has floating mountains, a bioluminescent forest, gigantism in the plant and animal life, a view of a gas giant, and a biological consciousness link up and I'll hop on a plane right now to go see it for myself.

Where waffles grow on trees.

 

[protocida]

^ ^ Yet, we have Hell's Gate and it's, albeit advanced, still very human setting.

 

[moviedoors]

^ ^ Yet, we have Hell's Gate and it's, albeit advanced, still very human setting.

It's still pretty damn futuristic. Massive mining equipment, mercs running around in mech suits, crazy inter-atmospheric shuttle craft, weird looking helicopters, 3-D computer screens everywhere, coffin-link link machines, and blue alien-human hybrids running around on an obstacle course.

And that's as close to Earth as it gets (the two minutes of expository flashbacks don't count). I'd say that's still pretty out there, very firmly sci fi. Not even comparable to the plain old, boring 21st century cities and apartments we see in Green Lantern.

And do you really think Avatar made over two billion dollars because of Hell's Gate? I think it had more to do with the truly alien world that surrounded that little fortress. People ate it up. People want to have their minds blown. Don't promise us Star Wars, and then have the hero fart around in his apartment not wanting to do and see awe-inspiring ****.

If you need a human anchor, that's what characters are for.

 

[Mysteryman]

Avatar and Star Wars would like a word with you.

When they were promoting GL as the next "Star Wars", it just occurred to me they dont know why Star war was successful.
Sure ,Luke was born on another world, but he was a farm boy who dreamed of adventure.
We have all dreamed of that .
Star Wars wasnt about its visuals .
Set it in space,but it is the story and characters that will tell the tale.
Personally if they had a Compelling story to explain it ,I would have followed Hal UNDERGROUND.

 

[ultimatefan]

WB also said at one point they were going to make a sequel to SR, but they eventually dropped it in favor of a reboot.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Wait, that article says they still believe GL will make $400 million?

 

[Poni_Boy]

Wait, that article says they still believe GL will make $400 million?

The article that has the $400 mil quote is from CBM. Apparently they have an inside source at WB