Official Green Lantern News & Discussion Thread - Part 10

[nimrod]

How many?

Huh?

 

[Rowsdower!]

No. It wasn't long enough. It should've been longer.

The assassination of Abin Sur by the coward Parallax.

 

[KalMart]

How many?

Put it this way......many, many more than those who did like it. Hence its performance, WOM, and reviews.

 

[jmc]

Talk about desperate, in order to generate some form of hype Reynolds is coming down under for the Melbourne and Sydney premiers. Good luck.

 

[The Sage]

Talk about desperate, in order to generate some form of hype Reynolds is coming down under for the Melbourne and Sydney premiers. Good luck.

It's not normal for stars to show up for their movie's premiere?

 

[jmc]

It's pointless, people have already seen it online or have seen the shalcking it's received.

 

[cherokeesam]

It's pointless, people have already seen it online or have seen the shalcking it's received.

...."shalcking"....?

Is that an attempt at "shellacking," maybe....?

Anyho, the performance of a movie on the other side of the planet has little to no effect of the performance of a movie on another side of the planet. In fact, most movies that tend to do great in America fall flat in, say, Europe, and vice versa. For all we know, GL could turn out to be box office gold in other parts of the world. Like, say, Outer Borneo.

 

[chiefchirpa]

...."shalcking"....?

Is that an attempt at "shellacking," maybe....?

Anyho, the performance of a movie on the other side of the planet has little to no effect of the performance of a movie on another side of the planet. In fact, most movies that tend to do great in America fall flat in, say, Europe, and vice versa. For all we know, GL could turn out to be box office gold in other parts of the world. Like, say, Outer Borneo.

... if there's nothing called the internet and to some lesser extent, TV entertainment channel and WOM from personal contacts all over the world.

 

[DaveMoral]

... if there's nothing called the internet and to some lesser extent, TV entertainment channel and WOM from personal contacts all over the world.

That pre-supposes that people have the same taste and expectations in a film cross-culturally. Which really isn't the case.

Not to say GL is going to do better overseas. But not everyone thinks about film in the same way that Americans and Europeans do.

 

[Iron_Stark]

No. It wasn't long enough. It should've been longer.

The assassination of Abin Sur by the coward Parallax.

The assassination of Abin Sur by the coward Parallax: Based on the Graphic Novel Green Lantern by DC Comics.

Now that's a movie title.

 

[chiefchirpa]

That pre-supposes that people have the same taste and expectations in a film cross-culturally. Which really isn't the case.

Not to say GL is going to do better overseas. But not everyone thinks about film in the same way that Americans and Europeans do.

1) The article should be read and understood the way it's written & in some cases translated. A review by Variety should read the same whether by people in the US or in Japan.

2) You're saying is actually the truth - culturally people outside the US will have greater barrier of acceptance than Americans to American produced films. So that's why #1 bears more importance to people out of the border. Hey, they got more choices of films than people in the US.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I've actually wondered what foreign folk think of American movies/superheroes. Like how big was TDK over in Japan, did they like Thor, is anyone over there getting hyped for Man of Steel etc.

As big as anime is over here, it would have to go both ways, I'd think.

 

[cherokeesam]

I've actually wondered what foreign folk think of American movies/superheroes. Like how big was TDK over in Japan, did they like Thor, is anyone over there getting hyped for Man of Steel etc.

As big as anime is over here, it would have to go both ways, I'd think.

Check out boxofficemojo and look under the superhero genre....they've got all the answers.

In general: foreign audiences liked Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Thor, Hellboy, Blade and Hancock better than American audiences; while Americans liked Batman (Burton, Schumacher *or* Nolan) better than foreign audiences. Americans also liked Iron Man, Superman Returns, Ghost Rider, the Hulk movies, and the Punisher movies better than foreigners did. Americans preferred Daredevil; foreigners preferred Elektra. For the most part, the X-Men films are more popular in America, but XMO: Wolverine and X-Men: First Class proved to be more popular overseas. Jury's still out on Green Lantern comparisons --- the movie hasn't reached most of its foreign markets yet.

 

[BestGirl]

But it's reached the big markets already, hasn't it?

 

[chiefchirpa]

Check out boxofficemojo and look under the superhero genre....they've got all the answers.

In general: foreign audiences liked Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Thor, Hellboy, Blade and Hancock better than American audiences; while Americans liked Batman (Burton, Schumacher *or* Nolan) better than foreign audiences. Americans also liked Iron Man, Superman Returns, Ghost Rider, the Hulk movies, and the Punisher movies better than foreigners did. Americans preferred Daredevil; foreigners preferred Elektra. For the most part, the X-Men films are more popular in America, but XMO: Wolverine and X-Men: First Class proved to be more popular overseas. Jury's still out on Green Lantern comparisons --- the movie hasn't reached most of its foreign markets yet.

I think Americans got to know origins movie better, and foreign countries will accept better on sequel (any sequels), continuing universe series (Thor) and films starred by famous actors (Hancock).

GL is too strange concept for foreigners to accept, except in those countries where American culture has prevailed some times (Australia, UK, Singapore, Hong Kong, the Phillipines)

 

[Lencho01]

I think you guys may be over generalizing as to who liked which films more based on BO.

 

[Octoberist]

After seeing Transformers 3, how the heck was it possible that Green Lantern was as, or not more, expensive? Seriously, t3's practical effects and ILM CGI destroys Lantern effortlessly.

 

[HighFivingMF]

After seeing Transformers 3, how the heck was it possible that Green Lantern was as, or not more, expensive? Seriously, t3's practical effects and ILM CGI destroys Lantern effortlessly.

Spielberg.

 

[dark_b]

After seeing Transformers 3, how the heck was it possible that Green Lantern was as, or not more, expensive? Seriously, t3's practical effects and ILM CGI destroys Lantern effortlessly.

its hard to compare metal and organic skin. its very different IMO.
and its also hard to know how much practical effects costs compared to CGI.

i read that the editing in GL was a mess. but Bay brings editing to another level. i mean this as negative as possible. he is filming very fast hes movies. so fast that he doesnt care about any detail. shots go from daytime to night and dusk. without any logic. it just bad filmaking. but thats the way he brings hes budget very low.
its true that the finale in TF3 is big . but there is no logic. BB is with Sam in one shot. and in another shot he is captured by decepticons.

 

[protocida]

^ You can easily deduce that he was captured. Not anything needs to be shown.

 

[Metallo]

After seeing Transformers 3, how the heck was it possible that Green Lantern was as, or not more, expensive? Seriously, t3's practical effects and ILM CGI destroys Lantern effortlessly.

I've been thinking the same thing. I look up at the screen and I just don't see all that FX budget money up there with GL.

Many of the effects didn't impress me that much while others did.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

I've been thinking the same thing. I look up at the screen and I just don't see all that FX budget money up there with GL.

Many of the effects didn't impress me that much while others did.

kind of like how superman returns had a ridiculous fx budget, but was just meh imo


ILM is still the industry's gold standard

 

[Spideyfan93]

its hard to compare metal and organic skin. its very different IMO.
and its also hard to know how much practical effects costs compared to CGI.

i read that the editing in GL was a mess. but Bay brings editing to another level. i mean this as negative as possible. he is filming very fast hes movies. so fast that he doesnt care about any detail. shots go from daytime to night and dusk. without any logic. it just bad filmaking. but thats the way he brings hes budget very low.
its true that the finale in TF3 is big . but there is no logic. BB is with Sam in one shot. and in another shot he is captured by decepticons.

Stop hating.

Michael Bay achieved far superior SFX with less money. Green Lantern's SFX will never be on that level. t:

 

[Metallo]

kind of like how superman returns had a ridiculous fx budget, but was just meh imo


ILM is still the industry's gold standard

Sony Imageworks digital effects look terrible sometimes and I thought they looked terrible in Spider-Man 3 AND Superman Returns sometimes.

But I think the work on Green Lantern was overall worse than the work in Superman Returns. I felt there were more cases where work in Superman Returns topped the best in Green Lantern.

If anything rendering The ring constructs should have made it easier to get away with CGI but even those special effects didn't always look up to snuff.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Companies seriously need to stop hiring Sony Imageworks. At least on films that rely so much on the CGI.