Official Green Lantern News & Discussion Thread - Part 4

[S.A.A.D.]

Despite the Sony Imagework guys not being too good, it's pretty weird (that it's taking a long time finishing the special effects) when you consider the fact that most of the movie happens on earth. I hope that the guys use ever penny wisely, I don't want to see a Fantastic Four 2 pulled off again (the disappointing reveal of Galactus).

 

[The Sage]

Despite the Sony Imagework guys not being too good, it's pretty weird (that it's taking a long time finishing the special effects) when you consider the fact that most of the movie happens on earth.

It could mean that there are special effects heavy scenes that occur on Earth that have to be finished...

 

[KalMart]

If it's not because of the special effects guys (not being good enough), then maybe there is indecisiveness in the air between people.

If referring to the 'extra $9M',....as the Variety article discussed, it's more about being overloaded as any place would be, and it's not the first time something like this has happened. It's starting to become more of an epidemic with a lot of efx-heavy films. Problem is when you set a release date and hold to it...and production or whoever goes a week or more over...post-production doesn't get another week or more to do their thing after waiting longer to get stuff. You start adding in reshoots and other things...as well as more complex filming for effects in production...but still keep that hard deadline, it creates a log jam. So you need to start asking (paying) others out there for help, and paying for more overtime and weekend work. I don't really think it's about singling GL out as particularly being 'in danger' or what have you.


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118035870

Such pics now routinely fit the description of a "troubled" project, with "troubled" the new normal. And key players in the f/x biz say that with crunches mounting, it's only a matter of time before some f/x-heavy tentpole can't meet its delivery date -- a nightmare no studio has faced since "Titanic." Should a tentpole be forced to change dates, the ripple effects on a studio, its rivals, exhibitors and tie-ins will be widespread and injurious to bottom lines.

"I think the day (the system) breaks is the day everyone will revise their thinking," said Marvel exec VP of visual effects Victoria Alonso. "Until that day comes, filmmakers are going to push it to the limit. I think it's sad that we will have to watch one of us fail to learn our lesson."

The stresses that studio tentpoles are creating for the vfx industry are not new, as Variety reported in its May 28, 2007, issue. But they have worsened across the board.

In a way, you could also see it as a sign of GL really going for broke with its effects and pushing it to the wire to get it right, instead of cutting corners.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

It could mean that there are special effects heavy scenes that occur on Earth that have to be finished...

I know, I already had that in mind but just didn't feel like acknowledging it.

 

[TheVileOne]

They are already cutting corners by sending out a converted piece of 3D crud into theatres. When the movie was not shot in 3D.

I hate 3D. I hate 3D TV. I hate 3D videogames. I tried playing them and its pointless. I can't stand 3D TV. I prefer high definition. Good high definition TV looks so much better than 3D. I thought Dark Knight in IMAX especially the IMAX sequences looks just about any 3D movie I can remember. We need to see more bold cinematic experiences like Dark Knight with tentpole and less 3D converted garbage like COTT 2010.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

Really, I basically don't get the hate for 3D movies, aside from one or more not feeling okay while watching movies in 3D and aside from the cost of tickets for movies that are in 3D (despite me not having to pay for movies that are in 3D). As long as I don't end up in pain and can't tell the different between movies that are shot in 3D and that are converted to 3D, I actually couldn't careless about peoples' hate for 3D movies, and to be frank--I'm friggin' tired of hearing people complain about 3D movies. Just to make it clear, I like 3D movies when I find them acceptable, but I also don't think that they are the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[RoughNTumble]

Really, I basically don't get the hate for 3D movies, aside from one or more not feeling okay while watching movies in 3D and aside from the cost of tickets for movies that are in 3D (despite me not having to pay for movies that are in 3D). As long as I don't end up in pain and can't tell the different between movies that are shot in 3D and that are converted to 3D, I actually couldn't careless about peoples' hate for 3D movies, and to be frank--I'm friggin' tired of hearing people complain about 3D. Just to make it clear I think 3D when I find it acceptable, but I also don't think that it's the best thing since sliced bread.

1. Movie I want to see comes to theaters

2. Movie is only playing in 3D in my city

3. 3D gives me headaches and severe blurred vision

4. I cannot watch it

It's not hard to understand.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

1. Movie I want to see comes to theaters

2. Movie is only playing in 3D in my city

3. 3D gives me headaches and severe blurred vision

4. I cannot watch it

It's not hard to understand.

Hence why I was talking about not feeling okay. If it's not in 3D, ask about a 2D print at your local theater or go to a different movie theater. Or wait for it to be released on dvd and blu-ray, or watch it on the internet, or wait for it come on a specialty channel.

 

[jmc]

Hence why I was talking about not feeling okay. If it's not in 3D, ask about a 2D print at your local theater or go to a different movie theater. Or wait for it to be released on dvd and blu-ray or wait for it come on a specialty channel.

I live within 20km of 5 theatres, only one was playing Thor in 2D, and playing only one session.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I would also like to say that I was not trying to say that no one has a right to hate movies that are in 3D, however, just because they are problematic it doesn't mean that there is absolutely no way of working around them.

 

[mcallima]

If it's in 3D, they don't play it in 2D where I live. I'll make an exception for Green Lantern because I'm a fan, but I refuse to see 3D movies otherwise.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I have no problem with 3D in a movie like this, as long as its done well (i.e. not like in Clash of the Titans). I feel bad for you guys though who get headaches while watching films in 3D. That does suck. I'm glad I've never had that problem.

The only time 3D bugs me is when it seems silly and unnecessary. In a film like GL? Makes perfect sense. But in The Great Gatsby? Hell no.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

As someone who is normally 'annoyed' proof when it comes to 3D movies, I hope that the 3D for Green Lantern is good enough, Green Lantern is my most anticipated movie this coming Summer.

 

[jmc]

I would also like to say that I was not trying to say that no one has a right to hate movies that are in 3D, however, just because they are problematic it doesn't mean that there is absolutely no way of working around them.

It is a problem if your not given the option.

 

[KalMart]

Really, I basically don't get the hate for 3D movies, aside from one or more not feeling okay while watching movies in 3D and aside from the cost of tickets for movies that are in 3D (despite me not having to pay for movies that are in 3D). As long as I don't end up in pain and can't tell the different between movies that are shot in 3D and that are converted to 3D, I actually couldn't careless about peoples' hate for 3D movies, and to be frank--I'm friggin' tired of hearing people complain about 3D movies. Just to make it clear, I like 3D movies when I find them acceptable, but I also don't think that they are the best thing since sliced bread.

I think that both 3D and 2D movies can coexist, really. But I also think that 3D has a ways to go to develop more into its own unique kind of filmmaking and film viewing, rather than trying to translate/adapt all our 2D sensibilities and techniques to it. They end up being at odds with eachother that way and we're caught in the middle, so to speak. Part of it may integrate a different kind of 'screen', or giving the viewers more of a 'choice' of depth of field, and so on. I kinda' look at it like...how much physical dimension/depth/layers can a painting have before it turns into sculpture? Is it still a painting, or is it a sculpture...or...should it evolve into a new/unique and self-contained format of art?

As it stands, we're still looking at 'dimensionally-enhanced 2D', and its limitations/issues are inherent to the process. I really think that further developments in capture and presentation technology have to advance in order to move it away from that, as well as a further-evolved approach of visual storytelling. If we continue to apply 2D composition sensibilities to it, it'll have a tougher time.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I hope that the joyless scenes in the movie are as mercifully short as possible (the Earth portion of the movie). Hopefully, the acting and the delivery of the dialog can compensate for them, I don't know about you guys, but I pretty much know what to expect.

 

[Rowsdower!]

They don't have to be short as long as they are good. Remember, we want this movie to be successful and that means selling it to an audience that might not be ready for a full-on space opera.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

They don't have to be short as long as they are good. Remember, we want this movie to be successful and that means selling it to an audience that might not be ready for a full-on space opera.

Of course they don't have to be short if they are good, I rather have the stuff that sounds boring turn out to be good. One of my main concerns is the personalities of some of the characters, I don't want them coming off as average Joes too much. One thing that I am digging is the relationship that Hector has with his dad, they are two dudes who are suppose to be unlikable guys against each other in some way, then there is the super villain vs super villain side. It's kind of been done in Batman Returns, but that was different and this will be different too. In Batman Returns you had Catwoman, Max Shrek, and The Penguin going at each other.

 

[powerbomb1411]

I can't help but call BS every time I watch a spot and see it claim Guardians are protectors of life. They're responsible for a giant massacre.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

Never mind.

 

[Doctor Who]

I wonder if the rest of the Corps will be wearing masks like Hal when danger draws near...........

 

[KalMart]

I hope that the joyless scenes in the movie are as mercifully short as possible (the Earth portion of the movie). Hopefully, the acting and the delivery of the dialog can compensate for them, I don't know about you guys, but I pretty much know what to expect.

I think that most of this will take place on Earth, so you may be out of luck there.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I can't help but call BS every time I watch a spot and see it claim Guardians are protectors of life. They're responsible for a giant massacre.

But nobody knows that.

Spoiler

And it was Krona.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I think that most of this will take place on Earth, so you may be out of luck there.

I know that I'll be out of luck, but to what extent? That remains to be seen.

 

[dark_b]

Showtime and Filmnerjamie. do you remember how much money was spend on the extra money shots in SUperman Returns? i remember some news that Singer got more money for some extra action money shots.

the reason why i am asking this is because 9 millions is a lot of money to me. but 9 millions is IMO not a lot of money for a 200 million summer production. so if someone here is expecting that the whole movie will look better because of 9 then i think they are wrong.
GL has CGI suits. . not jsut one but 2. and they have CGI aliens. and again not one alien but sometimes 3 aliens together in close up . try to understand that for perfect photorealism GL would have to have at least 2 years of preproduction and 1 WHOLE year of post production.