Okay, I know this has probably been done before, but....

[Sandman138]

The short answer is no, I don't. But Laurie is a better choice. I was having a ***** of a time with Snow.

 

[inspiritonly]

For it to last I think we need to steer away from the classically costumed superhero. A Punisher series might work. Vigilantes are always popular. How about Nick Fury agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.? I think Jonah Hex would be excellent. We need a new western.

 

[batman7289]

batman

 

[The Question]

The short answer is no, I'm not.

Don't you mean "no, I don't"?

 

[Sandman138]

Indeed I do.

 

[The Question]

Okay. My idea for a Batman animated series on HBO. Mostly character concepts so far:



Batman: The basic story is the same for this guy. The main changes are:

Training: Bruce's training is as thus. After getting into several fights at school and losing badly, Bruce is sent by Alfred to Ted Grant, the ownder of a gym in Gotham and Alfred's former feild comander back in his days in the British special forces. Ted teaches Bruce the basics of boxing, plus several more useful moves from judo and the military hand to hand combat training regime. Within a year or two, Bruce becomes a highly skilled fighter and better all around athlete. Later, at a charity event, Bruce met Henri Ducard, a French bounty hunter and private detective. Facinated by Ducard's trade, and already formulating in his mind the idea of becoming some kind of crime fighter, he asked to become Ducard's aprentice, and spent the next two summers in Paris, learning under him. Ducard taught him tracting, forensic chemistry (plus a thing or two about mixing explosives and other chemical tricks of the sort), and most importantly trained him to think like a detective. By the end of his teachings under Ducard, the two are hired by a wealthy middle eastern buisnessman, Mr. Head, to find a missing employee. Head mentions to Bruce that he is a martial arts enthusiest, and runs a camp that teaches ninjitsu and other stealth combat techniques in Asia. Bruce joins, and quickly becomes one of Mr. Head's top students. It soon becomes aparent that Mr. Head is grooming Bruce to be his heir. While at the camp, Bruce meets Mr. Head's daughter, Talia, and the two fall in love. Over the next year, Bruce lives at the camp and he and Talia grow closer. However, things take a turn for the worse when a group of armed gunmen raid the compound. Mr. Head, Talia, Bruce, and the rest of the students defenmd the camp. During the battle, Talia is shot, dead. In a fit of rage, Bruce picks up a sword and kills several of the gunmen. Afterwards, Bruce discovers that Mr. Head is in fact Ra's AGhul, a wanted terrorist, the camp is a terrorist traning facility, and the gunmen were Interpol agents. Disgusted with himself and with Ra's, Bruce leaves, and wanders across Asia and Europe for the next year, homeless and pennyless. Eventually, just after his 21st birthday, he makes his way back to Gotham, cleans himself up, and publicises the triumphant return of Gotham's favorite son.

The Gear: Basically, Batman's weapons would be very inexpensive. Mainly to keep the police from thinking that Batman has connection to wealth. Batarangs would be carved from any scrap metal he could find. Usually made from scalples he would "borrow" from the many hopsitals his company owns. Flashbangs, explosives, and smoke grenades would be mixed by Bruce himself using over the counter chemicals such as household cleaners. The grappling hook/launcher would be purchased from a military surplus store, as well as night vision goggles and the utility belt. The batmobile would simply be a black sports car with detatchible license plates. It would simply be for getting Bruce from point A to point B without being noticed. The most expensive part of his arsenal would be the suit itself. It would be armored with the more high grade, lightweight kevlar used by the miliatry, with ceramic plating in especially sensitive areas. Over that would be a black ninja like jumpsuit with leather over it in some areas. The mask would be the same, however he would cover the exposed part of his face with the black face paint used by football players to cut down on glare, and he would wear false hangs. This would keep him properly disguised while enabling him to breathe unhindered, aswell as giving a more inhuman apearence. His eyes would also be covered by this paint, and he would wear contact lenses that make his eyes look pupil-less.

Batcave: There are hundreds of caverns running underneath Gotham city. Many were closed off or destroyed when the sewers and subway stations were made. Others remain intact, but are impossible to access. The ones that run under Wayne manor can be accessed by a series of secret passageways built into the mansion. Back before the civil war, they were used as hiding places for the underground railroad. During the days of prohibition, they were used to hide booze. Currently, Batman uses them to stash his stuff. He keeps his costume and weapons down there, and goes down there to think.

Villains:

Professor Hugo Strange: A therapist at Akrham Asylum. Born into wealth, he used his inheritence to study the various siences, especially psychology and genetics. However, over the years, he lost his money through his persuits and legal trouble over some of his more contraversial work. The only remnant of his former fortune is the now run down mansion he lives in. He works at the Asylum due to the many supplies of test subjects it offers. He will often put inmates under his care through medical and psychological experiments to test their limits and see how much they can be improved, both physically and mentally. This often leads to the survivors becoming some of Batman's more than human adversaries.

The Joker: A slight revision of the origin story as presented in The Killing Joker. He's a failed stand up comedian who desperately needs money to support his pregnant wife. He makes a deal with the mob, but when that deal goes bad, they kill his wife and drop him in a vat of chemicals that drains out to the harbor. However, those particular chemicals weren't quite lethal enough to kill him, and instead put him through incredible pain, temporarily blinded him, and made him so sick that he could barely function for days. When his vision cleared, he saw that the chemicals had completely bleached his skin white and caused his hair to take on a greenish hugh. He then went completely insane. He died his hair a sharper shade of green, began wearing lipstick, donned a purple pin striped suit, and hunted down and murdered the mobsters who kills his wife. Feeling unfulfilled, he decided that he must convince the world of his philosophy, as any good comedian should. His philosophy being that life, sanity, order, and justice are all completely meaningless and the world is a place of suffering, and that you should either go mad and do as you please or put a gun to your head and save us all from your whining.

The main difference between this Joker and the regular Joker is that this Joker doesn't ignore his past. It haunts him. There are some darker moments of clarity for him where he drops the smile and thinks of his sorrows. However, he will quickly regain his murderous glee after some thought.

Two-Face: Born to strict parents who were always pushing him to succeed, Harvey Dent often kept his emotions bottled up. This would, from time to time, when pushed too far, cause him to lose his cool demeanor and go through very violent fits of anger. To regulate this, he became partially addicted to mood regulating drugs. He graduated from college early, became a state atourny, and was well on the road to becoming one of the youngest District Atournies in city history. Things changed when he began going after The Roman Empire, Carmine Falcone's criminal organization. In particular, Falcone's main luitenant, Sal Maroni. In retaliation, Maroni sent an explosive package to Dent's house. The explosion killed his wife and horribly scarred the left side of his face. To cope with the situation, Dent's mind created a new personality, Two-Face. This new persona wanted everything that Harvey did, but cared little for the consequences. He hunted down and exicuted several mobsters, including maroni, but shooting them twice in the head point blank with a 22. hand gun. However, the Harvey Demt personality, feeling that there should be some amount of justice in what was done, convinced Two-Face to flip a coin and let fate decide wether the victims lived or died.

Scarecrow: A former college professor of psychology, Jonathan Crane was fired acusasions of a violent assault by one of his students. Crane had always suffered from highly anti social behavior, worsened by ridicule from his classmates during his youth. This, coupled with mild dillusions of grandure he gained as a means of coping with the ridicule he constantly faced, caused him to orchistrait a revenge plan against two classmates that wronged him, resulting in one of their deaths. Basically, he's a sociopath. After being fired from, his teaching job, Crane murdered the Dean and several faculty members by causing them to over dose on a fear causing halucinagen of his creation before Batman stopped him and the police arrested him. He now holds a strong hatred for Batman and any law enforcement officials.

Riddler: A highly gifted child, Edward Nashton's acomplishments were often ignored by his parents out of sheer apathy, and ridiculed by his peers due to his "nerd" status. This ultimately resulted in Edward aquiring incredibly low self esteem and a very unhealthy need to prove his superiority to others. Initially, he tried his hand at game shows. However, they didn't quite acomplish his desired effect. He then turned to crime. At first, it was simple thefts, with clues left for the police to decifer. But, over time, he decided that if he was really going to get their atention, he needed to do something big. So, while taking a day job as a video game designer, he planned his greatest crime ever. He kidnapped the children of several influential Gotham citizens and gave the police (and Batman) 24 hours to solve the clues and riddles he intentionally left before he killed them.

Penguin: Oswal Cobblepot. Simply put, a crime boss who gained the nick name Penguin due to his short, stocky physique, tendancy to wear tuxedos, and affinity for birds. No real change to his origin story. The umbrella gimick is explained as him having a paranoid tendancy to carry concealed weapons. He started out as a theif, but eventually, his crew of theives grew into a crime syndicate. He's also a skilled fighter in his own right, trained in boxing and judo, and quite muscular despite his excess body fat.

Black Mask: Origin basically the same. Went insane after his neglectful parents died in a fire and he was unable to sustain the buisness he inherited from them. Became a mobster, and made everyone in his gang wear masks, believing that in donning masks they became new individuals, and thus their slates were wiped clean, enabling them to reinvent themselves. His mask was carved from his father's coffin.

Killer Moth: A sort of anti-vigilante, Drury Walker serves as security for hire for the mob. He wears a grey jumpsuit and helmet/mask, and carries a gun that fires several different types of poisonous darts.

Mr. Freeze: Victor Freis was born with a medical condition that forced him to stay in especially cool temperatures at all times. Because of this, he became a scientist, hoping to find a cure for his condition, or at the very least a way for people like him to function normally. However, one day, his wife came down with a terminal illness. Freis cryogenically froze here, and devoted all of hsi reaserch to finding a cure for her. However, his benifactors cut his funding. Desperate to save his wife, he used one of his prototypes, a rather bulky cryo suit that would allow him to go outside in warner weather, and weaponized it. He began robbing facilities owned by his former employers for money. He was fought and stopped by Batman. Sympathetic of Freis' plight, Batman, as Bruce Wayne, offered to fully fund Freis' reaserch in finding a cure for his wife and made arangements for him to be able to work out of prison. Freis is now Batman's go to guy for scientific problems.

Maximillian Zeus: A mentally unbalanced crime boss who believes himself to be the Greek God Zeus. He weilds a powerful taser disguised as a staff, qand forces all of his subordinates to dress in a manner fitting Greek soldiers. He believes Batman to be Hades, the ruler of the dead.

Poison Ivy: An idealistic college student and strong environmentalist, Pamela Isley was manipulated by her college professor, Jason Woodrue, into joining him and a group of eco-terrorists. He told her to destroy a pharmiceutical company that was poisoning the environment. However, Woodrue's motives were not pure. He simply wanted to destroy the company because he wanted to beat them to a new medical breakthrough. Pamela succesfully destroyed the plant, but was nearly killed by toxic chemicals in the process. Realizing that Woodrue had been manipulating her, she kidnapped him and kept him alive for her own experiments. Now quite insane, Pamela spent several months imunizing herself against most conventional poisons, and became a very dangerous eco-terrorist.

 

[The Question]

More character ideas:


Killer Croc: Born with a condition that gave him green, scaly skin, Waylon Jones was often abused and teased as a child. Possessing a horrible temper, Waylon once atacked and nearly killed a student in school for calling him names, biting off and eating his ear. Eventually, Waylon dropped out of school and joined the carnival, serving as an aligator wrestler. By this point, to make himself apear even less human, he cut off his nose and ears and began filing down his teeth into rasor sharp points. Eventually, he got fed up with being treated as a freak. So, he rallied his fellow side show freaks, killed his employer, and stole enough money from the carnival to get to Gotham. There, he and his fellow freaks became a small gang. He eventually fought and was stopped by Batman. Because of his great temper and canabalistic tendancies, Waylon was sent to Arkham. While initially possessing the strength of a long time weightlifter and wrestler, Waylon became one of Hugo Strange's test subjects, and through those experiments gained superhuman strength, speed, durability, and senses.

Clayface: Basil Karlo was a former actor who became drug addicted and somewhat mentally imbalanced after a failed career. After he learned that they were remaking his only real hit, he donned the costume of his character from the origional film, Clayface, and hunted down and killed the producers. He was captured and sent to Arkham. There, he was one of Hugo Strange's test subjects, and gained shapeshifting abilities.

Ventriloquist: Keeping him more or less the same. Crazy mob boss who thinks he's the assistant to the real mob boss, his dummy Scarface. His gang is small, but he's slowly gaining more influence over the city.

The Roman: Carmine Falcone. The last remnant of the Cicillian Mafia in the U.S., and the most powerful mob boss in Gotham. His possition has been challenged by newcomers such as The Penguin, and especially by the investigations of Jim Gordon and The Batman. Interestingly, he seems to be one of the few organized crime figures in Gotham who is willing to work with the more psychologically imbalanced criminal element, employing both Copperhead and Victor Szazs as hitmen, both of which would probably have become serial killers is left to their own devices based on they psychological profiles.

Firefly: A serial arsonist and pyromaniac, Garfield Lynns decided to make a profit off of his obsession by selling his services to the mob, sabotoging targets with explosives. While seen mostly out of costume, he will don a protective suit and mask and weild a flamethrower and grenades during any physical confrontations, specifically when the police first arrive to arrest him after his identity after he is discovered.

Mad Hatter: Suffering from schizophrenia, Jervis Tetch would often act out an Alice in Wonderland inspired fantasy world. As his real life was quite uneventful, he soon became completely lost in his dillusions, believing himself to be his favorite character, the Mad Hatter. Wanting to populate his world with other characters from the books, he's begun kidnapping people who fit the physical descriptions and personality traits os specific characters and forcing them to play with him, through brainwashing techniques if necessairy.

Cluemaster: Aurthur Brown, an expert theif made famous for intentionally leaving misleading clues at the scenes of his crimes to throw off the police. While technically retired from crime, he teaches a class on hos to commit the perfect theft. Batman and Gordon often use him as an informant.

King Snake: Sir Edmund Dorrance, a British crime lord and long time rival of The Roman who has recently made a play for Gotham city. While blind, he is a highly skilled hand to hand combatant. He's like Daredevil, but evil.

Bane: King Snake's illigitimate son. As an act of defiance against his father, who abandoned him as a child, he has come to Gotham city to prove himself as a true criminal mastermind. He has taken control of a small hispanic gang and turned it into a well organized group of criminals. He is also addicted to a steroid coctail called Venom.

Man-Bat: Kirk Langström, an orderly at Arkham Asylum and assistant to Hugo Strange. When Kirk became aware of Strange's experiment's on the inmates, he threatened to call the police. Hugo then kidnapped Kirk, faked his death, and made him one of his test subjects. Strange's experiements gave Kirk several bat like characteristics, including enhanced senses and functional wings.

Calander Man: Julian Day, a man suffering from multiple personality disorder and an obsession with the dates on the calander. He has a new personality for every day of the week and every holiday. Some of these personalities are benevolent, such as on Valintines Day where he will become a suave, romantic matchmaker. Others are quite sinister, such as on Halloween where he will ritualistically sacrifice five people to the Celtic gods, or on Saturdays, where he becomes psychotically paranoid and takes on canabalistic tendancies. He comes to Batman's atention after a series of unusual murders and crimes that leads Batman to see a pattern.

Rupert Thorne: A new, rather young mob boss who's trying to take The Roman's territory. To this end, he has formed an alliance of sorts with the Penguin.

Copperhead: A mob hitman with several traits commonly atributed to serial killers. He was one of Hugo Strange's test subjects in Arkham, and gaines snake like characteristics, including superhuman contortionist abilities and a venomous bite.

Ten Eyed Man: A former specvial forces marine who was blinded after taking a flashbang in the eyes. He now sees using special micro cameras on the fingertips of his gloves that are connected to his optic nerves. He's become the leader of a gang of bank robbers, and is a highly skilled fighter, capable of taking on Batman hand to hand.

The Royal Flush Gang: A small gang of criminals with a playing card theme. Their activities are more akin to a street gang, although their numbers are quite small. They are later assimilated into The Joker's gang.

Allies:

James Gordon: Born and raised in Gotham, Gordon started out as a beat cop, eventually making his way up to Captain. Early in his career, he was the officer who happened upon the Wayne's being mugged and shot the mugger dead before he could harm Bruce. Ever since, Jim as kept tabd on Bruce, and the two have become good friends. Jim is also fully aware that Bruce is Batman, having followed both of their cases very closely. Instead of using a bat signal, he uses a small electronic pager that Batman gave him. Jim is a highly skilled detective and potent hand to hand combatant, only hindered by a stamina weakened by years of smoking cigarretes. The reason he calls Batman is not because Batman is a better thinker than he is, but because Batman isn't tied up by the red tape and won't lose his job by doing something illegal. Also, little known fact. Unlike a police officer, if a vigilante does something illegal to gaun evidence, that evidence can still be used in court.

Alfred: Bruce's loyal butler, as always. Former member of the British special forces, Alfred is a highly skilled army surgion, which comes in handy whenever Bruce gets injured on the job. He's also a crack shot, and was the man who taught Bruce marksmanship. While somewhat aprehensive about Bruce's activities, he is none the less supporting, and uses all of his skills and resources to aid him. Alfred was also, after the military and before his service of the Waynes, an actor on the London stage.

Dr. Leslie Thompkins: A close friend of the Wayne family, Leslie helped Alfred look after Bruce after his parents died. She became a sort of surrogate mother to him. She disaproved highly of Bruce's vigilante activities, but is still often called in to help him when he's injured beyond Alfred's ability to heal.

Catwoman: A cat theif well known for never having killed anyone on the job and wearing a pair of cat ears aswell as a catsuit and night vision goggles, Selina Kyle used the wealth she stole to make her way from the streets she grew up in to Gotham's high society. However, she has also been known to use the larger amounts of money she steals to help the disenfranchised of Gotham from time to time. Serves as more of a neusence for Batman than anything else. He often ignores her completely, feeling thjat trying to catch her would be a complete waste of his time, seeing as how she's never killed anyone and often steals from people who can afford it or who probably deserve it. That being said, he hardly aproves of her actions. Both she and Carmine Falcone are aware that she is his illigitimate daughter, although he does not know she's Catwoman.

Ace: A German Shepherd Alfred took in while Bruce was in Asia. Based mostly on the Batman Beyond version of him. Raised as a puppy to participate in illegal dog fights until he escaped. He and Bruce don't get along.

Robin: Dick Grayson. This version of Robin would be a little older. About 15. His parents were killed by the mob when the circus they worked for wouldn't pay up on protection, as usual. Dick was put into foster care, but being hot headed and stupid, wanted revenge. He ran away, donned a ski mask and his old acrobatic costume, and went after the men who killed his parents. He was partially succesful at first, but was soon captured and taken to be exicuted by two enforcers. By this time, Batman had become aware of this new vigilante going after the mob, and arrived just in time to save him. Knowing that Dick was just going to get himself killed if he went at it alone, Bruce offered to train Dick and give him the proper weapons and gear, since he seemed so adiment on persuing a career as a vigilante. So, Dick became Bruce's aprentice, and Alfred is made his legal gaurdian. At first, Alfred refuses to let Bruce make someone else turn out like he did, buit Bruce soon convinces him, saying that Dick is going top go down that path no matter what they do, and he simply wants to make sure he doesn't get killed doing it. Robin's costume is much different, being an all black body suit with a clack full face mask, green lensed goggles, and a red kevlar vest over it. He wears a gold R pin on his vest, a gift his parents gave him as a small child. His relationship with Bruce is more like that of siblings than father and son.

 

[batman7289]

live action batman

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Okay. Here's my idea for a live action Superman series. It would not be in continuity with Smallville in any way, although it would have some of the same actors because I'm too damn lazy to think of other ones.

The series starts with several reports of a mysterious flying man in a red cape saving lives. No one's sure what to make of it, but everyone's interested. Especially investigative reporter Lois Lane. Lois, along with her new partner, the quite and rather laid back Clark Kent, try to uncover the mystery of the flying man who the press has dubbed "Superman."

Cast (haven't thought of everyone, so please give any suggestions)/character descriptions:

Clark Kent/Superman: Tom Welling

Clark is quiet, reserved, and easy going. It's not that he's a bumbling dork. He simply doesn't draw atention to himself. You'd never notice him in a croud. The only thing he gets noticed for is his writing. As Superman, he is the swift yet silent saviour of Metropolis. He'd been doing the hero thing all over the world for a few years, but since he was going to settle down in one place, obviously the sightings of him would consolidate, and thus the secret identity was in order. His M.O. in the show is a bit different than in other versions. He goes in, saves the day, and leaves without stopping for interveiws or snapshots. As such, the glasses/baggy suit thing actually works as a way of keeping Clark Kent and Superman seperate from one another in people's minds. One of Clark's more noticible character traits in the show is his lack of using technology. He prefers old fasioned methods, such as type writers, over more high tech conveniances.

Lois Lane: Erica Durance

Cynical, stubborn, and one of the best damn reporters around. Lois refuses to let a story die, which often gets her into alot of trouble. Her relationship with Clark is comperable to that of Bruce Willis and Cybill Shepherd in Moonlighting. In other words, they are often arguing and throwing little insults at each other, and you know they're going to have sex eventually. Lois' relationship with Superman is slightly different here, as they almost never actually speak to each other, with Superman instead leaving her a series of notes which Lois can quote in her stories about him. This leads Lois to build up the image of a perfect man for Superman (which is helped by the fact that he's a super powered guy in a cape who saves lives), and gives her a sort of school girl crush on secret admirer type of deal. It also, eventually, leads to Clark actually becoming jealous of himself.

Lex Luthor: Micheal Rosenbaum

Lex is a billionare philanthropist, inventor, and socialite in Gotham city. He started out in a poor family in Metropolis and, through his vast intelect and scientific inventions, pulled himself and Metropolis out og the gutter. He turned Metropolis from a nothing town to a major city. His inventions have also put the United States roighly ten years ahead of the rest of the world in terms of technology. He is well loved in Metropolis for his charity and remains a public figure for his wealth, influence, and eccentricities such as his obsession with physical fitness and his aptitude to only wear clothes that are either green or purple. However, behind closed doors, Lex leads a much darker life. Because of his first hand experiences of the evils of the world, Lex wishes to save humanity from itself. Wether we like it or not. To this end, he has enganged in several illegal activities such as human experimentation, and has manipulated events and put such figures as poloticians and mobsters under his control. He has massive influence over Metropolis' main crime syndicate, Intergang, who he supplies with weapons and funding. Through this, he is able to instill order in Metropolis' criminal underworld. He wishes to control Superman, both to use his power to help change the world for the better, and to insure that Superman doesn't abuse his power to change the world for the worse.

Perry White: Michael McKean

Perry is the Daily Planet's seasoned editor in chief. Though often impatient and blunt with his reporters, Perry is none the less a caring man who tries to do his best to help his friends. Being a bit more down to Earth than Lois, Perry is the first to link Clark's tendancy to suddenly be nowhere to be found and Superman saving the day.

Jimmy Olsen: Liam Aiken

An intern/photagrapher for the Daily Planet, Jimmy is very much a fly on the wall in the Daily Planet, going largely ignored yet seeing everything. In many ways, Jimmy is like a young Clark: Somewhat socially akward and prone to take on far to many responsibilities. Jimmy is highly adept at the use of electronics and computers, and his skills at photography are often overlooked in favor of his ability to fix computers and photo copiers, along with making him get coffee.

Brainiac: Brent Spiner

An alian AI created on the planet Colu, programed with the task of pacifiying and and all alien worlds it comes across by removing all free will. In stark contrast, the being itself is quite full of emotion and life, possessing a rather witty sense of humor, a pechant for whimsy, and a need to stop and savor every new thing it experiances. However, it's programing is like the instinct to eat or to sleep or to **** for us. It needs to do it. Thus, it often gets very angry with whoever tries to stop it. The AI latched on to the body of carnival side show mystic Milton Fine, and vastly enhanced Fine's meager psychic abilities to great levels. It took Fine's stage name, Brainiac, as it's own for the hell of it. Brainiac was drawn to Metropolis because of Lex Luthor's technology.

The Parasite: Adam Baldwin

A rude, violent, thrill seeking thug from Suicide Slum, Rudy Jones was abducted by Lex Luthor's company due to his unique genetic structure. He was experimented on illegally by Lex's scientists to try and find a way to end world hunger by allowing humans to absorb the energy they needed directly. It worked too well, allowing Rudy to absorb any energy directed at him and convert it into physical power. The more energy he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. A side effect is that he became completely hairless and his skin and eyes turned purple. Of course, he also escaped.

Morgan Edge: Rutger Hauer

Metropolis media mogul and crime lord. A major player in Intergang and Lex's contact to the organization. Considers himself Lex's friend, although Lex is warry of him.

Toyman: ?

Winslow Schott, the son of toy store owners who was killed by Intergang for not paying protection money. Winslow was put into the system, but ran away and began living on th streets. Found an old costume shop where he lived, and began dressing and speaking in the manner of a 50s sitcom character. Eventually goes on a bid for revenge against the mosbters responsible for the deaths of his parents. Uses high tech weapons of his own design made to resemble toys, including life sized, voice controled green army men robots with limited AI, a bouncy ball that smashes anything it hits to bits, and a yoyo he uses to strangle people. All of his devices are made from materials stolen from a wharehouse that stores discarded Lexcorp inventions, for which he has a job as a security gaurd.

The Prankster: ?

Oswald Loomis, a former actor who, after being fired, killed the studeo executives. Was sent to jail, and later recieved Winslow Schott as a cellmate. The two escaped together, and became black market wepaon designers.

Metallo: James Marsters

An enforcer and hitman for Intergang, John Corben is also a graduate of Harvard and MIT, holding degrees in Law, Engineering, and the preforming arts. Somewhat eccentric, he's the type of enforcer who woul torture a man to death while listening to classical music. Was transformed into a cyborg by Lex Luthor to help test and counter Superman.

Terra-Man: ?

Tobias Manning, a former Texas oil baron who, after seeing the damage his company was having to the environment and having a mental breakdown, used all of his wealth to buy a stockpile of weapons and became an eco terrorist. He was secretly supported by Lex Luthor, who gave him technology that would enable him to control plant life and cause artificial earthquakes. Terra-Man targets corperations that do harm to the environment, often destroying their facilities with small earthquakes. Another sign of his mental breakdown is that he speaks in the manner of a cowboy, and often wears a cowboy hat.

General Dru-Zod: Ron Pearlman

The violent, xenophobic, fascist leader of Krypton's military who was imrpisoned for trying to take control of the council. He was sentenced to an eternity in the Phantom Zone, but was freed when S.T.A.R. labs was experimenting on Superman's ship and the devices within it.

Hank Henshaw: ?

Part of a crew of four atronauts who supposedly died when their suttle exploded in the Van Allen Belt, they instead barely survived, exposed to massive amounts of radiation and slowly dying. Lex Luthor took them in and tried to save their lives, using the gene therapy involved as an excuse to atempt to give them super powers. Hank developed the ability to manipulate machines with his mind. When Superman raided the facility the four astronauts fought him. However, due to their rappidly decaying bodies, they all died to to the stress of the battle. Hank was able to repair his body by transforming himself into a sort of techno/organic life form, and was thus the only survivor. Driven mad, he blamed both Superman and Lex Luthor, and vowed to kill them.

Manchester Black: ?

A street level thug from Britan, Black is a horendously violent vigilante with vast psychokinetic abilities. He leads a vigilante gorup known as The Elite who have become known as terrorists and murderers in the U.S. Secretly, they are supported by Lex Luthor, who funds them and helped bring the team together in the first place.

Vera Black: ?

Manchester's kid sister and second in command. Much less violent than her brother and more inclined towards peacefull sollutions. Lex Luthor gave her her cybernetic arms.

Okay, I haven't thought of any storylines yet, but when I do, I'll post them.

Pretty cool, the only things I didn't exactly like/suggest, though, were:

Perry White: Hugh Laurie, dammit.

Metallo: If it were me, I'd add some more of S:TAS in him--mainly, his going mad by his inability to feel anything anymore. Sure, make him still a villian, but a sympathetic one, that would eventually snap and try to kill everyone in retalliation for his pain.

The Elite being run by Luthor: I think the Elite would be severely dilluded if they worked for the "villian" of the piece. What made them interesting was that they were trying to save people, just like Superman, only difference being they weren't afraid to kill to do so. The only reason I'd see the Elite joining with Luthor would be to eventually destroy his entire empire from the inside.

 

[The Question]

Perry White: Hugh Laurie, dammit.

You make a good arguement, Of course, simply saying Hugh Laurie's name is a good arguement.

Metallo: If it were me, I'd add some more of S:TAS in him--mainly, his going mad by his inability to feel anything anymore. Sure, make him still a villian, but a sympathetic one, that would eventually snap and try to kill everyone in retalliation for his pain.

Maybe. I could definately see a scene, later on, with Metallo beating the crap out of Clark Kent (who he just found out was Superman), and ranting about how he gave up everything just to be better than Clark, and now he's oing to live up to that.

The Elite being run by Luthor: I think the Elite would be severely dilluded if they worked for the "villian" of the piece. What made them interesting was that they were trying to save people, just like Superman, only difference being they weren't afraid to kill to do so. The only reason I'd see the Elite joining with Luthor would be to eventually destroy his entire empire from the inside.

They'd be exactly the same as they always were, but just funded by Lthor. My version of Luthor for this is akin to that in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. More John Sunlight than James Moriarty.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

They'd be exactly the same as they always were, but just funded by Lthor. My version of Luthor for this is akin to that in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. More John Sunlight than James Moriarty.

Well, you have to think about the audience that's watching the TV show. To them, Lex Luthor is a villian, plain and simple, no matter how anti-hero-ish he is, he is the antagionist of the Superman saga. Having The Elite being part of him, unless they were planning to double-cross him and bring Lex to justice, makes them instantly villians.

 

[Speedball]

Hmm...A New Warriors TV show would be cool. It should have the same sense of humor as the comic book, well...up until Stanford.

 

[The Question]

Well, you have to think about the audience that's watching the TV show. To them, Lex Luthor is a villian, plain and simple, no matter how anti-hero-ish he is, he is the antagionist of the Superman saga. Having The Elite being part of him, unless they were planning to double-cross him and bring Lex to justice, makes them instantly villians.

True. But then, Th Elite were basically used as villains when they first apeared anyway. They wouldn't plan to double cross Lex as they share his philosophies and need his money.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Okay, I have always wanted to see this, and I will not go into casting because I do NOT want to argue with people'd preconceived notions of what this show should or should not look like.

The Sandman.

it has suffiecient storylines for many seasons and seeing as how the fad right now is storytelling (sad state of affairs isn't it?) I think this show would actually have a shot, it has everything that lost has been hailed for and more.

 

[Sandman138]

If it was a show, Alan Rickman couldn't be Dream.

 

[The Question]

I actually thought it would be cool if Gaiman and WB made a series of half hour shorts that would be shown before WB movies in the theaters. Kind of like the old movie serials from the 30s and 40s. Just to be different.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

it would be cooler if they did an animated series, perhaps in the Hempell style from the "kindly ones" series, the sam keith era is too sketchy, and a live action series would break my heart with it's chessyness, tv people could grow a pair and actually make in a hour long.

now that's good tv.

 

[The Question]

Personally, I think live actions would look really great, if they used the proper special effects. There shouldn't be an over abundance of CGI, for one thing. Although, I once heard an idea for The Endless where they would have regular actors in costumes and everything, and then CG over them in post production to give the feeling that they're not entirely there.

 

[blind_fury]

Teenage Bruce Wayne tv series showing his training to become Batman.

 

[GL1]

^"Gotham" For teh win!

I personally would enjoy a Nightwing Series among a few other things. I like the idea of Spider-Girl and more I really like the idea of teenagers at Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters... it could be almost any set of X-Men, New Mutants, GenX, Academy X... there's just a ton of potential there for fun and action and tons and tons of drama and angst.

I'd also fall for a "Themiscira" young Diana show in a Xena-meets-Smallville but it's Wonder Woman thing... a Runaways 'Adult Swim' Americanime would be hot as well.

A Captain America/Invaders WWII miniseries. A Wakandan Political Drama. Hmmm... it seems I have low standards.

The one show that would knock my socks off though is a Lois Lane show. A show (or comic) that makes the supporting cast member/love interest into the main character and the hero into a support character, kinda like a summon for the love interest. For Lois Lane this works especially well since she's an investigative reporter... it'd be awesome.

Also, Power Pack needs to be a little kids cartoon ASAP.

 

[Crimson_L]

Batman or the Punisher...

 

[Bnightwing]

Nightwing, I think it would be kind of easy to sell to the WB since Dick becomes Nightwing at the age when he's getting out of his teens and becoming a man, trying to find his place in the world. I think it would fit in well with the type of shows they go with.

In terms of story and characters, I'd probably use a modified version of the first few story arcs in the Nightwing comic series (the ones that dealt with him going to Bludhaven and dealing with Blockbuster). For the characters, I coudl see him interacting with some of the other former Sidekicks who are coming of age as well, most notably would be Aresenal. It could also be possible to have him deal with Huntress, maybe at one point he could even help train her. As for villians, you could probably only get away with using a few minor ones from Batman's rogue gallery.

THANK YOU some 1 eles would like 2 see that 2

 

[Rylvan]

100 Bullets, a dark, gritty, noir-ish crime drama. Preferably on AMC, like The Walking Dead.