"Passengers" - Sci-fi drama starring Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence

[Lily Adler]

Simon Kinberg?

I mean sounds about right, but he's such a terrible writer and director that I thought he needed a break.

 

[Drizzle]

I forgot whose idea was to do the 10 year time skips in between films...

You can only get so far with saying "Oh they age slower because they're mutants." That's only specific to Wolverine, not all of them. Still, I get the novelty of setting each one in its own decade even though unlike First Class, DOFP and Apocalypse which fully embraced the respective decades they were set in, from what I remember there was virtually nothing in Dark Phoenix that really embraced the '90s setting. I thought that Quicksilver wore a Nirvana shirt in it but turns out that was only in his Deadpool 2 cameo.

 

[Lily Adler]

You can only get so far with saying "Oh they age slower because they're mutants." That's only specific to Wolverine, not all of them. Still, I get the novelty of setting each one in its own decade even though unlike First Class, DOFP and Apocalypse which fully embraced the respective decades they were set in, from what I remember there was virtually nothing in Dark Phoenix that really embraced the '90s setting. I thought that Quicksilver wore a Nirvana shirt in it but turns out that was only in his Deadpool 2 cameo.

I figured Grunge fashion, rise of coffee shops, and radical lingo would seep its way in the Xverse.

 

[MOVIELORD101]

Seems like Adele’s sage advice was more to do with staying away from entire genres — and not just this movie in particular.

Wait, what did she say about Star Wars?

 

[metaphysician]

If the scenario had been different in this movie and it was a child who woke up first and all alone, there's almost no question they would've woken up their parents even though that would be condemning the parents to death effectively. I don't think a child would even have thought of that, and the parents would not have held that against their child. Even between siblings I bet some would do that.

The difference being, those would involve people with preexisting relationships and duties. Also, assuming a *child* child ( ie, not a late teen of near adult maturity ), there is a strong element of diminished capacity. Pratt's character isn't in the wrong because its never possible to justify waking somebody else up from cryosleep, he's in the wrong because *he* wasn't justified in doing so.

Hell, its not even *that* hard to improve his position. Have him be looking for someone in the passenger manifest with the skills to potentially fix the problems, and have Lawrence's character be that person ( or *appear to be* that person, in the records ). There can still absolutely be an element of "Pratt's character absolutely is also looking for a hookup, and maybe even picked from several possible options based on who was hottest", but at least it makes the moral dynamic less rape-y. Of course, that would require making Lawrence's character something like a spacer or engineer, and not an artist, and Hollywood can't have that, female romantic leads are supposed to be cute and inoffensive, not have valuable practical skills. *cough*

( You know, in retrospect, it would make much more sense if you *flipped* the alleged professions of the two. Pratt was theoretically supposed to *be* an engineer, but never really showed it. If Lawrence were the engineer, it would make it a lot easier to justify Pratt waking her up, and if Pratt were the artist, it would make it a lot easier to believe that he'd make terrible decisions motivated by loneliness and lust. *eg* )

 

[Dark Raven]

The difference being, those would involve people with preexisting relationships and duties. Also, assuming a *child* child ( ie, not a late teen of near adult maturity ), there is a strong element of diminished capacity. Pratt's character isn't in the wrong because its never possible to justify waking somebody else up from cryosleep, he's in the wrong because *he* wasn't justified in doing so.

Hell, its not even *that* hard to improve his position. Have him be looking for someone in the passenger manifest with the skills to potentially fix the problems, and have Lawrence's character be that person ( or *appear to be* that person, in the records ). There can still absolutely be an element of "Pratt's character absolutely is also looking for a hookup, and maybe even picked from several possible options based on who was hottest", but at least it makes the moral dynamic less rape-y. Of course, that would require making Lawrence's character something like a spacer or engineer, and not an artist, and Hollywood can't have that, female romantic leads are supposed to be cute and inoffensive, not have valuable practical skills. *cough*

( You know, in retrospect, it would make much more sense if you *flipped* the alleged professions of the two. Pratt was theoretically supposed to *be* an engineer, but never really showed it. If Lawrence were the engineer, it would make it a lot easier to justify Pratt waking her up, and if Pratt were the artist, it would make it a lot easier to believe that he'd make terrible decisions motivated by loneliness and lust. *eg* )

I think I said something similar a few pages back.

Also whether you are a child, teen or an adult, if you simply don't know what to do in a certain situation, then you wouldn't be of diminished capacity. You'd simply feel there is no other choice but to wake someone else up and may be acting out of fear or panic or a sense of hopelessness.

If I were in cryosleep on a deep space journey and a family member or loved one woke me up, I would absolutely be okay with that and would say they definitely should wake me up in that kind of emergency situation or even if they felt lonely. And if they waited a whole year to do that, I would ask them why they even waited so long instead of doing it immediately.