Q.Which Marvel character is the most similar to Batman

[Fantasyartist]

My private view is that Iron Man(and to a lesser extent, Spider-Man) would qualify.
The lives of all three have been scarred by personal tragedy,(the murders of Uncle Ben Parker and Bruce Wayne's parents, to say nothing of Tony Stark's brushes with a alcoholism and heart trouble_ and Tony Stark, as much as Bruce Wayne plays the bored billionaire playboy by day and masked(or armoured) avenger by night role first popularized by Zorro!

Anybody else think as i do?

 

[CConn]

Moon Knight (wiki entry) is generally considered the Batman of the Marvel Universe.

But you are right; Stan Lee, like many comic creators, used elements from already established characters in creating new ones. However personally I'd say Spider-Man is much closer to Superman than Batman.

 

[Fledermaus]

I'm not very familar with the marvel universe, but off hand I'd say that Tony Stark is the Marvel Universes' Bruce Wayne. As for Batman, I'd say The Punisher (urban vigilante), Moon Knight (dark avenger), and Black Panther ( you put a bat-symbol on that costume and bam... Batman). And there has to be a bit of the Bat in Wolverine. Dark Claw was by far the coolest character Amalgam came up with. As I said I don't read Marvel. I'm DC zombie.

 

[Fantasyartist]

Dear CConn

I beg to disagree, although there are similarities between nerdy Peter Parker and Clark kent, the wall crawler is by no means even close to the Man of Steel power wise(the only marvel characters most like him are the Hulk or Thor)

Terry

 

[El Payaso]

Daredevil and Punisher.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Moon Knight (wiki entry) is generally considered the Batman of the Marvel Universe.

But you are right; Stan Lee, like many comic creators, used elements from already established characters in creating new ones. However personally I'd say Spider-Man is much closer to Superman than Batman.

Actually, I read once that, in a sense, he's a combination of the two--with the super-powers being like Superman's (not the same powers, the fact they both have superpowers), and the tragic origins and more darker stories akin to Batman.

 

[Silver Sable]

Punisher

 

[The Question]

Spider-Man, in terms of personality, is closer to Superman. He is, obviously, not the same as Superman, but they have more than a few similarities.


The closest Marvel has to Batman is Daredevil, really. Both have very similar back stories. Although, I must say, Daredevil is a much more badass character. He's gone through everything Batman has, plus has lost a few more loved ones, grew up from a very poor background, and is blind. He's a self made vigilante, whereas Batman had all resources he needed at his disposal from the get-go. And he can see.

 

[DeGenerate10]

Id have to say Punisher because he is without powers like Batman and he too lost his family to criminals. But then again Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne are both playboy billionaires who save their cities from crime.

 

[boywondernerdDC]

Punisher besides the fact that he kills. and moon knight as well

 

[CConn]

I think the thing everyone sorta needs to realize is there is no one Batman character of the Marvel universe. There's tons. Moon Knight, Iron Man, Punisher, Daredevil, a little bit of Spider-Man, all feature some aspect of Batman, but none of them are direct copies, and probably all of them are on about equal footing in terms of just how Batman-like they are.

Dear CConn

I beg to disagree, although there are similarities between nerdy Peter Parker and Clark kent, the wall crawler is by no means even close to the Man of Steel power wise(the only marvel characters most like him are the Hulk or Thor)

Terry

Power-levels are rather inconsequential. If you want to go that way, you could say Batman doesn't influence Spider-Man at all simply because Spider-Man has powers. That's obviously untrue. I'm talking about the characterization of Spider-Man, and combined story aspects around him.

Actually, I read once that, in a sense, he's a combination of the two--with the super-powers being like Superman's (not the same powers, the fact they both have superpowers), and the tragic origins and more darker stories akin to Batman.

Oh, I agree very much. I just meant, Spider-Man's whole world is very much like Superman's; his job, his family, his supporting characters, etc. But as you said, there is some Batman in him as well - and I'm glad, that's what makes him such a good character.

 

[Symbiotic Venom]

I say daredevil and punisher.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Punisher.

 

[captain_jimbo]

In some ways Wolverine, but probably more The Punisher.

 

[Qoèlet]

The closest Marvel has to Batman is Daredevil, really. Both have very similar back stories. Although, I must say, Daredevil is a much more badass character. He's gone through everything Batman has, plus has lost a few more loved ones, grew up from a very poor background, and is blind. He's a self made vigilante, whereas Batman had all resources he needed at his disposal from the get-go. And he can see.

Daredevil, definitely... although I disagree with the "badass" assessment, as there is no particular correlation between how tough or intimidating a character is and how hard his life was. As far as hard lives, DD wins, but a hard life is in all actuality likely to make someone "softer" in some senses, so that's hardly in his favour. Anyway, they're both scary and work tirelessly (although Batman's the worlds greatest workaholic as of late... but that's another issue) at their tasks... it's not a competition.

A comparison to The Punisher doesn't work for me at all. Similar origins, sure, but whereas Batman has spent the majority of his existence, with very few exceptions, as a character worthy of being called a hero, even a role model for your kids, The Punisher is by definition an angry anti-hero, the character whose comics you don't even want the kids to read, let alone adopt the protagonist as a role model. Essentially, Batman and Superman put it best:

I never threw another corpse on the pile, thinking "This will show them all! This will bring everyone to their senses!" That's a sick thought from an evil mind. - Batman, "War Crimes"
and
More than anyone in the world, when you scratch everything else away from Batman, you're left with someone who doesn't want to see anybody die -Superman, "Kingdom Come".

You could never, ever apply words like these to The Punisher. They go against his very raison d'etre, but they're here being applied as the very definition of what makes Batman the person he is. That should tell us something.

 

[The Question]

Daredevil, definitely... although I disagree with the "badass" assessment, as there is no particular correlation between how tough or intimidating a character is and how hard his life was. As far as hard lives, DD wins, but a hard life is in all actuality likely to make someone "softer" in some senses, so that's hardly in his favour. Anyway, they're both scary and work tirelessly (although Batman's the worlds greatest workaholic as of late... but that's another issue) at their tasks... it's not a competition.

Well, I mean badass since Daredevil was able to go through all the trails Batman did plus half a dozen more. More of a survivor, I guess is what I meant.

A comparison to The Punisher doesn't work for me at all. Similar origins, sure, but whereas Batman has spent the majority of his existence, with very few exceptions, as a character worthy of being called a hero, even a role model for your kids, The Punisher is by definition an angry anti-hero, the character whose comics you don't even want the kids to read, let alone adopt the protagonist as a role model. Essentially, Batman and Superman put it best:

I never threw another corpse on the pile, thinking "This will show them all! This will bring everyone to their senses!" That's a sick thought from an evil mind. - Batman, "War Crimes"
and
More than anyone in the world, when you scratch everything else away from Batman, you're left with someone who doesn't want to see anybody die -Superman, "Kingdom Come".

You could never, ever apply words like these to The Punisher. They go against his very raison d'etre, but they're here being applied as the very definition of what makes Batman the person he is. That should tell us something.

Of course. Although, I've always seen Batman as being somewhat naive in that regard. I'm not saying that The Punisher's methods are at all necessairy or the right way to do things, but most people would at least be willing to kill someone if heir lives or someone else's life depended on it. Batman isn't even willing to do that. If Ra's Al Ghul is about to blow up a building full of people, and Batman is twenty feet away from him with his legs broken and a sniper riffle next to him, he won't take the shot. It's a bit of Batman's psychology I find interesting. He's highly skilled and inteligent, but in terms of his world veiw, he's very much a child in a man's body. And really, look at his M.O. The toys. The costume. The secret clubhouse. "Batman" is essentially an eight year old's revenge/power fantasy brought to life.

 

[Elijya]

The correct answer is Nighthawk

 

[Qoèlet]

Well, I mean badass since Daredevil was able to go through all the trails Batman did plus half a dozen more. More of a survivor, I guess is what I meant.




Of course. Although, I've always seen Batman as being somewhat naive in that regard. I'm not saying that The Punisher's methods are at all necessairy or the right way to do things, but most people would at least be willing to kill someone if heir lives or someone else's life depended on it. Batman isn't even willing to do that. If Ra's Al Ghul is about to blow up a building full of people, and Batman is twenty feet away from him with his legs broken and a sniper riffle next to him, he won't take the shot. It's a bit of Batman's psychology I find interesting. He's highly skilled and inteligent, but in terms of his world veiw, he's very much a child in a man's body. And really, look at his M.O. The toys. The costume. The secret clubhouse. "Batman" is essentially an eight year old's revenge/power fantasy brought to life.

Your adjusted assessment of Daredevil and Batman is... acceptable.

As for Batman's childishness, it is a theory I've heard before, and it certainly goes a long way to rid us of some of the Batman-Robin theories, but I don't really buy it. Having high standards, moral and otherwise, does not make a man naive. Batman, on many occassions, has been shown to realize the criticisms directed his methods... in Hush, where he nearly crosses his own line, in War Crimes, he contemplates, briefly, doing the same while he's beating the tar out of Black Mask and the Joker. Hell, Batman's (among others') code of honour is a key theme in Kingdom Come, Azbats's reign in Knightfall/Knightsend, and The Dark Knight Returns. At the end of the day, an uncompromising sense of right and wrong, and the refusal to do the latter, even though tempted on all occassions, is something to be admired in a hero... hell, it's what makes a hero something more than a common vigilante. Call me naive, but that's my 2 cents.

 

[StorminNorman]

IMO Daredevil.

 

[The Question]

As for Batman's childishness, it is a theory I've heard before, and it certainly goes a long way to rid us of some of the Batman-Robin theories, but I don't really buy it. Having high standards, moral and otherwise, does not make a man naive.

Of course not.

Batman, on many occassions, has been shown to realize the criticisms directed his methods... in Hush, where he nearly crosses his own line, in War Crimes, he contemplates, briefly, doing the same while he's beating the tar out of Black Mask and the Joker. Hell, Batman's (among others') code of honour is a key theme in Kingdom Come, Azbats's reign in Knightfall/Knightsend, and The Dark Knight Returns. At the end of the day, an uncompromising sense of right and wrong, and the refusal to do the latter, even though tempted on all occassions, is something to be admired in a hero... hell, it's what makes a hero something more than a common vigilante. Call me naive, but that's my 2 cents.

Not wanting to kill is one thing. Refusing to kill under any circumstances in a line of work where that may be necessairy is another. He's said before, he's not willing to kill. Not even to save his own life or the life of someone else. That is the naivete I'm talking about.