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The movie is terrible.

BOM says an estimate of $3.8 million for opening day. Which for the competition isn't bad.

But I don't expect the Spirit to do much better for the rest of the extended weekend and in the coming weeks.
 
Hi guys, I just got back from seeing the film, I liked it, I thought it was fun 8.5/10!!!:D:up:
 
No. I love all those movies....and I thought this one was just....stupid. And plain damn weird.
 
8.5/10? Are you kidding me?

No, I don't believe I am "kidding you", no offense, you can hate it if you want, that doesn't mean everyone else has to as well!!! Frankly I could care less if I'm the only one on the planet that likes it, I liked it and that's good enough for me!!!:o:oldrazz::D
 
I liked it too. It's a film that doesn't take itself too seriously and I respect that.
It was very fun and the visuals were awesome.
I can understand the people that didn't like it though, it's not for everyone. Most cartoons aren't.
 
Alright. I just seen The Spirit. Here be my 2 cents:

I HAVE READ MANY SPIRIT COMICS. Both Eisner and Cooke. So I have some history with the character. That being said: It wasn't bad. At all. In fact, dare I say, I kinda liked it.

Now, let's set the stage here. I wasn't happy about this project after learning Frank Miller was involved. But I had an open mind. After seeing some set pictures and the teaser trailer, I was pretty much against it. I loved Sin City (GNs and the movie) and I liked what I seen in the teaser trailer, but I was upset that it was a trailer for the Spirit. Where's the bright colors? The blue suit? The warm atmosphere? Why do we see the octopus's face? WHAT THE HELL?

As months set in I didn't really settle for it, but I got over it as a Fanboy. I'm a Spirit fan. This is a Spirit movie. Now let's get into the spirit(sorry bad pun). After reading TONS of negative reviews in these threads my expectations fell even lower then which they were. So I went into the theater today hoping to be surprised. And I was. I had a good time watching this film. It was mindless fun. And I think this is as close as Frank Miller will ever get to jumping out of his genre.

But I know everyone wants to hear the negatives because that how bloodthristy you bastards really are lol. The big thing is that "It looks like Sin City!". And it kinda does. The movie overall has color, but it's very desaturated and gives it a cold, almost soulless look. The shots the bugged me the most were the 'ol Miller cliche' of white silhouettes on black backgrounds. It looks cool, but it completely takes you out of the film because that's just not Spirit-y. Yeah, I just made a new word.

The mood isn't as dark and gritty as Sin City. Central City itself is not a terrible gritty low class place. In fact the movie doesn't really focus on it enough. Which I wish they would've done more. The city didn't feel like a character to me. Burton made Gotham feel like a character with his batman films, and I always felt that's how Central City should be portrayed in that aspect. But, to be fair, it did play a role.

The Spirit's narrations weren't as hard boiled and depressing ala Sin City. There were many parts in the film where the Spirit would talk directly to the audience which I thought was great. It reminded me how sometimes Eisner would start off an issue with The Spirit setting up the story. The Spirit himself was very likable. He was a good guy through and through. Macht did an excellent job and I think if this movie was what it is or something more Eisner, Macht would've been a great choice regardless.

As for the women, they did their part. The acting in this film overall was far from great, but Eva Mendes didn't suck as hard as I initially perceived. Scarlett was very fun and looked like she had a kick with the role. I had absolutely NO IDEA what Plaster of Paris was saying but she wasn't wearing much so that's ok. I couldn't get if the actress playing the rookie cop was supposed to act the way she did or was deaf and mentally deficient. Everytime she was onscreen it was almost cringeworthy. Papa and daughter Dolan were decent and served their purpose also. Sam Jackson as The Octopus in name only wasn't as bad as people made him out to be. I think I would've liked the charcater more if they just would've named him "Sam Jackson." The Octopus is barely like his comic book counterpart other then wearing gloves and is a criminal. But when he and Macht were both onscreen it was entertaining. And I thought the henchmen were pretty funny.

The movie had it awkward spots. The Samurai scene stands out the most. And the backstory with Sand Sareff could've been done without. I don't know why you always have to have the hero have a past with EVERYONE. The was also great underuse of the score (which was very good) and it made the scenes silent and awkward. The tone of the movie was like a see saw. At one point it would be funny and the next it would be dead serious. The Spirit does take punishment in the movie. Like in the comics, his "costume" is in constant distress. He doesn't appear onscreen for 10 seconds without it getting pierced with knives or bullets. The film could've had another action scene. I heard 2 movie goers say "It was boring" and "It was better then Sin City."

All in all I thought the movie was good but forgettable. But The Spirit deserves more. Turning up the saturation and throwing on a blue suit wouldn't make this film more respectful to the source material. But there are more traces of Eisner in this film then I thought. Miller's ego is in full gear here. He gives nods to books HE wrote, uses too much of his own style, and even gave himself a part in the film. The end credits are even shrouded with miller's storyboard illustrations even though it would've been a great idea to show Eisner's original Spirit. If anything, it more of a tribute to Frank Miller than Will Eisner. Because if it was a tribute to Will Eisner, the film would be much better. Miller's talent can't surpass Eisner's. And Eisner only attacked one medium.

In Conclusion, it was better then I thought it would be. I wasn't dissapointed since my expectations were already very low. Macht's Spirit is the true redeeming quality of this film. I would like a sequel to be honest, but it seems Hollywood would only think Miller could be capable of producing such drastic and original work. Maybe a reboot will be down the line someday?

Frank Miller's The Spirit-3/5

Capturing Eisner's Work-1.5/5

P.S.- There's at least 33 "Damns", and 5 "Bastard!"s
 
Just got back from THE SPIRIT. It takes a while to get into, and when you get into it, it almost works. Miller’s missteps prevent it from working entirely. It’s one of those movies that doesn’t quite know what it wants to be, and knows it, and revels in it. As such, some things worked, and some didn't. Some things really worked, and some really didn't.

There are a few moments where everything is just right. Quick little fight sequences in shadow, an eye popping look from Macht, a line here or there, a predicament The Spirit finds himself in, etc. And when THE SPIRIT gets that right, for a moment, it feels very right. If Frank Miller had restrained himself...and stuck to what’s always made the Spirit work...this could have at least been a good film, one that honors the character and his world. But he didn't, so only part of that is the case.

Visually, the movie ranged from beautiful to disappointing. Some shots are fantastic, and some shots looked awkward as hell (the editing from Eva Mendes rising out of the water, for instance). The movie uses a lot of the same film techniques SIN CITY did “white frames, CGI cars, etc”, but I wouldn’t say it “looked like” SIN CITY overall.

Tonally, there’s a difference between not taking something seriously and playing it for comedy...and not taking something seriously and it still not being funny. A lot of THE SPIRIT isn't taken seriously...and isn't funny, either. Stuff like The Spirit speaking his monologues out loud as he walks around made little sense, and detract from whatever atmosphere had been built.

Gabriel Macht is pretty good as The Spirit. His "noir voiceover voice” was a bit hard to handle at times, but he certainly looked the part. Great eyes. I kept thinking how much better he would have looked in blue. The entire movie, I was thinking “You know, that shot of the suit would look a lot better if it was blue”. Also not sure why we needed to see The Spirit’s sneakers highlighted. That was annoying. The powers Miller gave him were almost pointless, and the movie could have done without them.

The Octopus. I don’t remember The Octopus from the old stories, so I can’t say much, but I’m pretty sure he was never a “gangster”. Sam Jackson was...ok, I guess. It was a terribly written role, and I really don’t think Jackson would ever have been my pick for the role of The Octopus. He did what he does, which is to remind you that he’s an angry black man. The Octopus was sort of a pointless villain, and his plot was relatively stupid, never posing any real threat to anyone. He may, in fact, be the worst comic book supervillain I’ve ever seen, and that includes the witch from SUPERGIRL. “Save the world?” From what? The Octopus dying a horrible death when he tried to drink the potion? (Didn’t Sand Serif’s husband try to drink from the vase and die a horrible death, or was she just lying about killing him?). The guns he was using at the end? Ridiculously hard to buy.

Silken Floss was boring and somewhat useless a character, although Scarlet Johannsen had a few relatively funny moments.

The Clone Henchman got annoying quickly. A few funny moments out of dozens that fell flat.

Ellen Dolan was decent, as was her father.

Sand Serif’s backstory was stupid, forced as hell, and the “actress” who played her as a teenager was just terrible. Stick to porn, honey. Eva Mendes was ok, but very flat, and is still a terrible actress. Nice ass, though. At least she and Macht had something resembling chemistry. The kiss at the end was aces.

Paz Vega’s Plaster of Paris was just...odd.

The rookie female cop was annoying.

Lorelei was strangely positioned in the film, but the payoff when he almost died made seeing her pop up throughout the film worth it.

Most of the women were just sort of...there. Miller brought in the femme fatales and it kind of feels like none of them really did anything. I mean, anything of consequence. One of them copied her ass, and Ellen put The Spirit in a hospital bed, and that’s about it.

Storywise, I thought that The Spirit wondering where he came from and how he'd survived was a nice angle, if not executed particularly well or revealed in an interesting manner. There was some decent tension between he and Dolan, and I wonder if Ellen knew her Denny was alive in The Spirit. The angle with the Golden Fleece and the Blood of Heracles, though, that was just lame. Is that from a story in the comics?

Most of the dialogue is awful. The music is servicable. Overall, the film has some nice moments, some clever moments, and some that are just eye-rollingly bad. So it’s kind of a mixed bag. The result is a film that feels like it honors The Spirit and his world...right up to the point where it doesn't. I really think they should have kept elements like Ebony White and featured a slightly more classic-feeling and interesting plot than “I want what’s in that box” and a battle-80's update of The Spirit's world.

5/10.
 
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This film was on par with Speed Racer.

Both were jam-packed with special effects and visuals. Both film's contained dialogue that could have been written by gorillas. And the story in both dragged on and on, to the point where you're thinking "Where is this going? And when will it end?".

If you liked Speed Racer in all of it's stupidity (but with dazzling SFX) then maybe, just maybe you will do what most of us were incapable of doing - and enjoy the disasterpiece that is....the Spirit!
 
There's a scene in the movie where Spirit is hanging from a gargoyle and then swings and undoes his pants to get to safety. Seriously, what was the point of that scene? Someone actually says "You'll believe a man can't fly," and I wanted to f'n shoot someone.
 
Those who have seen it; was it me or did I see Paul Levitz in a cameo? Also, I liked how Miller gave a nod to other comic legends such as Steve Ditko and Harry Donnenfeld.
 
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I would hope if Ditko ever saw himself mentioned in this movie he would call Frank Miller and tell him, "You're on the list, Frank."
 
블라스;16176099 said:
You give it a "fun 8.5/10"?
Ok, I am going to see this movie for sure then, can't wait! :up:

I liked it, it was fun Blas but I don't know if it's your cup of tea, It is a silly movie so if you can get past that then I guess you can enjoy it but I just thought I'd warn you first, it's not for everyone!!!;):D
 
I liked it, it was fun Blas but I don't know if it's your cup of tea, It is a silly movie so if you can get past that then I guess you can enjoy it but I just thought I'd warn you first, it's not for everyone!!!;):D

Nah, I don't mind the silliness, really.
I like the visual style, and well, I'll definitely give it a shot.
How's the action? Good fights?
 
블라스;16176868 said:
Nah, I don't mind the silliness, really.
I like the visual style, and well, I'll definitely give it a shot.
How's the action? Good fights?

No there isn't any good fights, hell there's barely any action. The meat of the movie is atrocious dialogue.
 
Denny Colt (Gabriel Macht) war einmal ein Cop. Bis zu dem Tag, als er erschossen wurde und nicht sterben durfte. Er wurde zurück geschickt. Zurück zu seiner Liebe, seinerm Leben, seiner Aufgabe. Die Stadt zu beschützen, die ihm soviel bedeutet. Und Central City bekam einen maskierten Helden, der die Frauen verzauberte, den die Bösewichte fürchteten. Central City bekam The Spirit.

Mit einer Augenmaske macht sich der Mann auf die Jagd nach Verbrechern und Gesindel. Und immer wieder trifft er dabei auf seinen Erzfeind "The Octopus" (Samuel L. Jackson), den er aber nie definitiv besiegen konnte. Auch dieses Mal hat der verrückte Kerl wieder seine Finger im Spiel. Es wurden zwei Schatztruhen entwendet. Eine enthält etwas unglaublich Wertvolles, die andere etwas, das der Octopus unbedingt in seinem Besitz wissen will.


Batman wär neidisch!
Und während die Schergen des Bösen die falsche Truhe abstauben, taucht auf einmal die schöne Sand Saref (Eva Mendes) in Central City auf. Sie, mit dunkler Vergangenheit belastet, kann sich nicht entscheiden, auf welcher Seite sie nun steht und der Spirit findet heraus, was genau an dieser Dame so geheimnisvoll ist.

Gleichzeitig ist der Octopus mit seinen Schergen nicht untätig. Angeführt von Silken Floss (Scarlett Johansson), einer Femme-Fatale mit Köpfchen, plant die Gruppierung den ultimativen Schlag gegen das Gute. Wenn der Spirit dies nicht verhindern kann, dann sieht es für die Welt dunkel aus. Doch der scheint dem Ruf der Loreley (Jamie King) nicht mehr lange standhalten zu können.



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Wenn immer der Name Frank Miller in irgendeiner Form auftaucht, dann horchen die Comicfans weltweit auf. Der Mann, der nicht nur 300 und Sin City geschrieben (und Letzteres auch grad noch verfilmt) hat, präsentiert uns seine neueste Filmumsetzung eines stylischen und kultigen Comics. Dieses Mal lädt er uns in eine dunkle Stadt ein, die einen heldenhaften Beschützer hat. Er nennt sich The Spirit und soll an die grossen Erfolge seiner Genrekollegen anschliessen.

Die Titelfigur hat, und daraus zieht er enorm viel seiner Spannung, keine Superkräfte und natürlich auch seine Macken. So kann The Spirit praktisch an keiner Frau vorbeigehen, ohne sie schmachtend anzublicken und sich ein bisschen in sie zu verlieben. Gut, das ist bei Damen wie Scarlett Johansson, Eva Mendes oder Paz Vega auch kein bisschen verwunderlich. Denn die Damenriege in The Spirit ist aufgetackelt, sexy und raubt dem (männlichen) Zuschauer schon ein bisschen den Verstand und den klaren Durchblick.

Gut darum, dass die Geschichte an sich eine ganz Einfache ist. Der Held findet seine Nemesis, es folgen Konfrontationen, Gefangennahmen und natürlich am Schluss der grosse Showdown. Apropos Nemesis. Mit Samuel L. Jackson hat der Film sein Highlight und seinen Geniestreich geschafft. Der Kerl ist so unterhaltsam, dass es auch nicht stört, wenn er im Nazikostüm verpönte Armbewegungen macht und Sprüche über konkurrierende Filmreihen vom Stapel lässt. Im Gegenteil. Als "Octopus" kann der Mann so richtig aufdrehen und er lässt weder dem Titelheld Gabriel Macht (der recht blass bleibt), noch der ganzen Damenriege auch nur den Hauch einer Chance.

Wie schon bei Sin City ist auch The Spirit im düsteren Look gehalten, mit tricktechnisch feinsten Aufnahmen erweitert und absolut stylisch gehalten. Manchmal bekommt man aber dennoch das Gefühl, das hier ein bisschen weniger Kunst der Geschichte besser getan hätte. Denn zwischendurch fragt man sich schon ab den einzelnen Szenen, die zwar toll aussehen, aber weder dem Film, noch der Story zu nützen scheinen.

Fazit: The Spirit ist hauptsächlich für Fans gemacht und hat eine (zu) einfache Geschichte zu bieten. Samuel L. Jackson rockt jede Szene, in der er auftritt und der Witz ist sehr bekömmlich. Dennoch reicht es dem Film nicht an die Klasse eines Sin City heran. Dafür wurde zuwenig aus der Story gemacht. Aber, und das dürfte keinen Zuschauer überraschen, dieses Manko wird sicherlich in einer Fortsetzung korrigiert.
 
블라스;16176868 said:
Nah, I don't mind the silliness, really.
I like the visual style, and well, I'll definitely give it a shot.
How's the action? Good fights?


Fights are pretty fun!:up: And the action is not dull, either.
 
I actually liked Sin City I dug the books and I liked the movie. However, I have to admit The Spirit was Wack...SUPER WACK!! My wife and I went yesterday (I drug her there kicking and screaming) and we were both like WTF!! After the movie which I paid for both tickets, she buys me a brand new pair of Nike's and said that was to make up for me buying the movie tickets. She was dead serious. She thought it was that bad!!
 
I actually liked Sin City I dug the books and I liked the movie. However, I have to admit The Spirit was Wack...SUPER WACK!! My wife and I went yesterday (I drug her there kicking and screaming) and we were both like WTF!! After the movie which I paid for both tickets, she buys me a brand new pair of Nike's and said that was to make up for me buying the movie tickets. She was dead serious. She thought it was that bad!!

She bought you new shoes to make up for The Spirit even though it was you who dragged her to the movie?

Don't let go of this woman.
 

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