Ridley Scott's "Alien: Covenant" (Oct 6, 2017) - Part 3

[henzINNIT]

The film committed a sin this franchise never has before, it was just disposable. The numbers reflect that. Even when an Alien film sucked, it was still an interesting failure.

 

[Octoberist]

That's why it's best when each Alien movie gets handed by a different director. It's almost like each film is a soft reboot of each other but not with each artistic interpretation, keeping it fresh even when it crumbles.

Sorta like each Mission Impossible film feels like a soft reboot, and it works. Now with Mission 6 keeping the same director, we'll see what happens.

 

[Octoberist]

Also, Covenent's canon fodder cast has never been so forgettable. More so than Prometheus.

Like the poor girl who gets decimated by the Neomorph - who was she in the crew? I can't remember her.

 

[I Am The Knight]

This is bad. It'll make 100 million if it's lucky.

It will be lucky to get to $80 million.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I like that Danny McBride is essentially playing the same character as Idris Elba in Prometheus and both are pretty good in the role!

 

[henzINNIT]

That's why it's best when each Alien movie gets handed by a different director. It's almost like each film is a soft reboot of each other but not with each artistic interpretation, keeping it fresh even when it crumbles.

Very true. I mourn Blomkamp's departure. I am sure that for better or worse there would have been more to talk about.

 

[TheVileOne]

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...ns-district-9-follow-up-alien-5-dead#/slide/1

Way to go Ridley Scott and 20th Century Fox.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Well, there is your proof.

 

[Man in the Suit]

I knew Blomkamp wouldn't be making that when Chappie was released.

 

[Drizzle]

As much as I'd have liked to see that Blomkamp Alien film, in all honesty I'd rather see a follow up to District 9. It just sucks it had to go down the way it did.

 

[Ivan Drago]

So is this movie officially a flop? Haven't been keeping up.

 

[mikeboydus]

So is this movie officially a flop? Haven't been keeping up.

Usually if a film does not make double its budget, the studio considers it a flop.

Alien Covenant has been out 3 weekends and grossed $173 million worldwide.

The film had a budget of $97 million. It would have to make $194 million. I don't think its going to make it.

Sad too, since Prometheus made over $400 million in its run.

 

[Roose Bolton]

It's still yet to open in China and Japan, so it's not unfeasible that it'll make an extra $20 million.

 

[mikeboydus]

It's still yet to open in China and Japan, so it's not unfeasible that it'll make an extra $20 million.

Well if it hasn't opened there yet, then China could save the day.

The last Resident Evil film aka The Final Chapter was pretty much in flop land, looking to be the worst at the box office in the series, and then it opened in China and raked in $159 million, roughly 4 times its budget, in theaters there.

 

[Consona]

Even if it makes money back, it obvious there's decline in appeal. The next Alien film could make even less money.

And I don't mind, it's all f***ed up. The most interesting things about the whole mythology [BLACKOUT]are dead. Man it's so disappointing.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[dude stannis]

It's still yet to open in China and Japan, so it's not unfeasible that it'll make an extra $20 million.

Not to mention the other overseas totals haven't been updated in a while. I imagine it will be a case where they put it on ice and we see a new one in 8-10 years like the latter films.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This movie's international box office has been updated. They are usually slow on dividing it by territory but the overall estimate is in.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=alienparadiselost.htm

Estimates place it at about 174m WW.

 

[dude stannis]

Those nations all say late May.

 

[TheVileOne]

This isn't going to be an international hit the level Prometheus was.

 

[moreorless]

Also, Covenent's canon fodder cast has never been so forgettable. More so than Prometheus.

Like the poor girl who gets decimated by the Neomorph - who was she in the crew? I can't remember her.

We perhaps didn't get some of the boneheaded decisions by the characters as in Prometheus but yeah that was pretty disappointing.

Again I think it highlights just how good the original is, wall to wall great actors who get to build up there characters much more subtly across the film. There not really the bland innocents either, that there generally cold careerists makes the reveal that there lives have been traded in for the bottom line by the company much more effective.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Those nations all say late May.

And it is because the numbers come in, in bulk. They wait for the official country by country numbers to divide them up. And honestly, Mojo sucks at it. They take a long while unless its a big number for that specific country.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Even if it makes money back, it obvious there's decline in appeal. The next Alien film could make even less money.

And I don't mind, it's all f***ed up. The most interesting things about the whole mythology [BLACKOUT]are dead. Man it's so disappointing.[/BLACKOUT]

Agreed, after Prometheus the main thing I was looking forward to in a sequel was them exploring The Engineers more. But no, instead [BLACKOUT]they get wiped out in a flashback scene[/BLACKOUT]. So disappointing.

 

[dude stannis]

And it is because the numbers come in, in bulk. They wait for the official country by country numbers to divide them up. And honestly, Mojo sucks at it. They take a long while unless its a big number for that specific country.

And this being the age of information lol, I can't imagine what would've been like in the 80's. t:

 

[TheVileOne]

Well in the 80s, overseas distribution wasn't as widespread and as big of a deal as it is now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And this being the age of information lol, I can't imagine what would've been like in the 80's. t:

We would have been good moviegoers and not cared a lick. t:

Which reminds me, try and look up the numbers for Alien and Aliens. The totals vary by tens of millions depending on where you look. Wonder how much of that was bad info and how much of that was the studio playing a bit of sleight of hand with the profits.

With Convenant. No reason it shouldn't make it to 200m. Should probably do it somewhat easily. Just a question of how much more. They should probably see a small profit after all the revenues are added up. At this point it would seem really gutless not to just let Scott finish what he started. For better or for worse, this is the path they chose. See it through.