A virus wiping out the human race makes much more sense. It was implied in the Heston films that it was nuclear war/or bomb...which would have in fact wiped out all the apes too.
The virus was just did too much. It would have been one thing, if it had been designed to kill humans, but it was just a coincidence, in addition to all the other crazy things it did.
The virus was just did too much. It would have been one thing, if it had been designed to kill humans, but it was just a coincidence, in addition to all the other crazy things it did.
Nuking was implied at the end of the first Heston film. When it was released there was mass hysteria, and everyone was scared about where nuclear technology was going.....
You don't have to nuke the jungles of Africa for the effects of radiation to carry over into it's atmosphere.....
Man this movie was so good, I'm still thinking about all the Caesar scenes.
Incredibly well done. So glad to see a movie that felt like real sci-fi at points rather than just empty effects.
I think a lot of superhero movies can learn something. I like them well enough, but they feel so lightweight at times. This shows you can have an outlandish sci-fi premise, and still give it weight, and make it entertaining and meaningful.
The apes throwing spears gave me chills. Caesar's "NO" moment was AMAZING, I didnt expect something like that until the climax of the film. There was audible OH MY GOD gasps and reactions from the audience, it was great. I'm glad they introduced the virus as well, because it wasn't realistic that the apes could overcome all the weapons and bombs and stuff.
Nuking was implied at the end of the first Heston film. When it was released there was mass hysteria, and everyone was scared about where nuclear technology was going.....
You don't have to nuke the jungles of Africa for the effects of radiation to carry over into it's atmosphere.....
Yes, but radiation wiping out all the apes in Africa debatable at best. I suppose it depends on your interpretation of the ending. The nuking is presumably the result of the Cold War. But isolated apes surviving a nuclear exchange is certainly more plausible than a do-all-virus.
Just got back from it, some thoughts (guess I should spoiler tag this, I don't know):
The only real con I with it is I felt it played itself a little too safe. Yeah, I know Hollywood summer blockbusters are known for that kind of thing, but with the other major prequel this year bringing some rather dark stuff into the ending, I was kind of in the mind that this may play with that element a lot more. At the core, this is a story about the rise of apes and the defeat, destruction and enslavement of humanity, which is pretty damn dark stuff when you get right down to it. From the trailers, I was kind of expecting something that would show the beginning of that, but instead they focused much more of the 'rising from the depths' story of Caesar, kind of an inter species underdog tale. And there's nothing wrong with that or anything, just kind of railed against the kind of story I was expecting.
With that out of the way, the pro was...more or less everything else. Very well done movie, and a good example of how a blockbuster can have a good amount of action while still maintaining a solid and engaging story. Caesar, much like Wall-E, is a perfect example of creating a non-speaking, non-human character that feels distinctly human and relatable. There was some spots I felt could have improved. I really wanted to see more of Caesar's relationship with Lithigow's character, since it seemed to be implied several times they had a strong bond, and how Caesar reacted to his death. But most of that is small stuff, nothing major.
So, yeah, between this and X-Men: First Class, I was pretty surprised at how well I liked the two major prequels this years.
In the original films they kinda jumped over the war. In the 4th Caesar led an ape uprising (the apes having developed to near Caesar's level after a plague wiped out all Cats & Dogs), and declared he knew man would turn his own weapons upon himself, then the last film picks up 10 years later, after a nuclear war has taken place.
I think the idea was that the war was not a full blown one. Pretty much all the major cities were taken out, but not enough to wipe out life everywhere. Truth there is even a 'limited' nuclear war could wipe out most mammalian life, especially with detonations spread all over the globe. Might take a few decades to do the job, but radiation can be a patient killer.
Just got back from it, some thoughts (guess I should spoiler tag this, I don't know):
The only real con I with it is I felt it played itself a little too safe. Yeah, I know Hollywood summer blockbusters are known for that kind of thing, but with the other major prequel this year bringing some rather dark stuff into the ending, I was kind of in the mind that this may play with that element a lot more. At the core, this is a story about the rise of apes and the defeat, destruction and enslavement of humanity, which is pretty damn dark stuff when you get right down to it. From the trailers, I was kind of expecting something that would show the beginning of that, but instead they focused much more of the 'rising from the depths' story of Caesar, kind of an inter species underdog tale. And there's nothing wrong with that or anything, just kind of railed against the kind of story I was expecting.
With that out of the way, the pro was...more or less everything else. Very well done movie, and a good example of how a blockbuster can have a good amount of action while still maintaining a solid and engaging story. Caesar, much like Wall-E, is a perfect example of creating a non-speaking, non-human character that feels distinctly human and relatable. There was some spots I felt could have improved. I really wanted to see more of Caesar's relationship with Lithigow's character, since it seemed to be implied several times they had a strong bond, and how Caesar reacted to his death. But most of that is small stuff, nothing major.
So, yeah, between this and X-Men: First Class, I was pretty surprised at how well I liked the two major prequels this years.
I hope a sequel gets green lit asap,There's potential for a trilogy!!....
This was Caesar's rise/Part 2 could be 5-10 years latter with most of the human population gone and some surviving ones could be getting captured or killed while others form a rebel and so it becomes a full-on war for the planet/Then in the last film it could be Apes in full charge while having Caesar's death and the ending could be 100 years latter with Caesar seen as a God and the Apes society being like the original film(Apes talking&walking upright&wearing cloths and humans running around scared in jungles) .....Even a credit scene could be the Icarus ship heading towards the planet!
I think Apes still has a big following with older audiences. That was a huge franchise for its time (the makeup effects then were as impressive as the motion capture is now). Even my mom wanted to see this, and she usually hates these kinds of movies. It was mostly an older crowd at the show I saw today, and the responses to the nods at the original film were very strong.
I'm surprised it went that big this weekend, but I knew there was definitely an audience for it.
Well, for reference I was around 8 or 9 when the original movies came to TV, the CBS Friday Night Movies! It was my Star Wars before Star Wars. I loved the original films.
Count me as one of those really surprised that this was good. I thought the effects came off a lot better than I saw in the trailers. Caesar really worked as a character. And yes,
when Caesar first says "No" came off as a shock and even got a surprise cheer/applause in the audience. Him saying "No" is also a nice tip to those who know the original films!
Also even got a little choked up when
Caesar tells Franco "Caesar is home" at the end of the film.
Well, for reference I was around 8 or 9 when the original movies came to TV, the CBS Friday Night Movies! It was my Star Wars before Star Wars. I loved the original films.
Count me as one of those really surprised that this was good. I thought the effects came off a lot better than I saw in the trailers. Caesar really worked as a character. And yes,
when Caesar first says "No" came off as a shock and even got a surprise cheer/applause in the audience. Him saying "No" is also a nice tip to those who know the original films!
Also even got a little choked up when
Caesar tells Franco "Caesar is home" at the end of the film.
The original movies were a few years before my time, but I remember they were on TV all the time when I was a kid.
I remember seeing Spaceballs in the theater, and how the audience was roaring laughing at the beach scene. That was how I found out how the original Planet of the Apes movie ended.
Plus this movie also works with the end of Tim Burton's film as well. Wahlburg's character could have easily crashed landed back on Earth a mere 100 or so years after the events of this film...
i was surprised this movie was very good, i hope to see a sequel.
also i laughed a little when "malfoy" died. me and my nephew have this joke about him in hp prizoner of askaban when he gets kicked by the hypagrif he says oh he's killed me. as soon as he died that is all i thought of, i was cracking up.
I loved seeing the films on TV as a kid,I always made sure I watched them all much as possible then I would rent them all the time!!
I still have great memories of me&other kids playing PLOTA with some of us as astronauts or slaved humans trying to fight back and others were apes,I was usually Taylor or a Gorrila general!!
The original movies were a few years before my time, but I remember they were on TV all the time when I was a kid.
I remember seeing Spaceballs in the theater, and how the audience was roaring laughing at the beach scene. That was how I found out how the original Planet of the Apes movie ended.
The apes throwing spears gave me chills. Caesar's "NO" moment was AMAZING, I didnt expect something like that until the climax of the film. There was audible OH MY GOD gasps and reactions from the audience, it was great. I'm glad they introduced the virus as well, because it wasn't realistic that the apes could overcome all the weapons and bombs and stuff.
Haha the same thing happened in my theater, also got some claps when Ceaser was riding the horse lol. I loved it. I want them to start making a sequel!
Jacobs comes back to the facility to find that it's wrecked. When he looks up, all the monkeys are staring down at him. It actually sent chills down my spine
Also, did anyone else find it funny that...
James Franco in the beginning of the movie said that the formula was ready for human testing. Right after he said that, I thought of Norman Osborn saying it in Spider-Man. A movie Franco was also in
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